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Nominations are open now through the end of the day (EST) on
November 15 for the Cyberspace Communications Board of Directors.
The following current board members were elected in December 2009;
their terms have one more year to run:
STeve Andre (steve)
Denise Anderson (denise)
Chuck Martin (unicorn)
Kent Nassen (kentn)
Under the bylaw amendment just passed, the Board is to have five
members (reduced from seven). Therefore, there is one open position
to be filled at this time.
Board members whose terms are expiring are Dan Cross, Joe Gelinas,
and TS Taylor. Dan has served two consecutive terms and is
therefore ineligible to run this time; the other two are eligible
for re-election if they choose to run.
Nominations close on November 15; voting takes place via the online
vote program beginning on December 1 and ending December 15. In
order for a nominee to appear on the ballot, they must have entered
a statement in this item accepting the nomination and be a member
in good standing at the time voting begins.
Nominate somebody by doing so in this item. Nominations do not
require seconds. Self-nomination is allowed. Terms run for two
years.
123 responses total.
I nominate anne/jadecat. She has now moved back to A2 and hasn't been on the board in some years. Maybe she'd even brimg Kyle to the meetings :)
I really hope Joe decides to run again. He is thoughtful and ends up with helpful and sound suggestions. He also plays well with others. Ann would be a wonderful board member - I hope she jumps in.
I nominate tsty and gelinas. And I agree that jadecat would be good, too. :-)
TS was willing to pick up the treasurer's job. I don't suspect he had to fight anyone for that responsibility. I hope he runs again as well. And thanks for that, TS.
I nominate Joe Gelinas. Or, rather, second Denise's nomination.
i accept the nomination, tnx.
Reminder: Nominations close in three days, on November 15. Nominees have through November 30 to accept. Voting starts on December 1.
Final reminder: Nominations close at midnight tonight (EST). Nominees have until the end of the month to accept, and voting begins December 1.
So the nominees are tsty, gelinas and jadecat? And, so far, only tsty has accepted?
That's correct.
why not extend the nomination period and postpone the election date in an attempt to gain some more interest?
We have what, ten, members right now? I'd guess we have all the interest we are going to get.
Perhaps it is time to go to annual meetings?
I give everyone willing to run for the board this time around a huge vote of thanks. We're going to have to be making some pretty big decisions over the next 12 months. And they won't be easy decisions. I don't think fewer meeting would help. The board needs to be looking ahead and planning 8-12 months out.
A couple of years ago, Arbornet had the same problem and moved to a single annual meeting, with no requirement for physical attendance by the Board members. Conference call meetings worked fine as a replacement, in my opinion. Arbornet also streamlined the by-laws, and trimmed the Board to 5 directors. It just plain didn't need all the structure that had built up over the years.
I was thinking of Arbornet's choice to go that way when I made the suggestion. I think it can work and special meetings can be called if needed.
Maybe it's time for a *serious* overall and simplification of bylaws.
resp:12 Also, I feel compelled to point out that Grex has done, as far as I can tell, essentially no advertising...
There are 10 members. Is it worth all that? You can probably streamline the by-laws enough to make them workable for the current Board without much effort, but revising them completely might be a lot of work.
I'd say it's worth it in the sense of making the organization more nimble, which in turn would hopefully make it more viable, which in turn would hopefully inspire people to join, which would make it worthwhile.
11 members ... jadecat joined on 14nov. and re 20 ... i like bootsgtrapping.
A single annual meeting doesn't encourage keeping up with technology (or socialology, for that matter).
Arbornet went to on-line meetings because we didn't have enough members to fill the Board from the Ann Arbor area. Having them on-line, we were able to have Board members from Canada, North Carolina, and even England. The current president of Arbornet lives in Montreal.
We amended the bylaws to facilitate out-of-town Directors several years ago. We have had Directors living in Japan and other parts of Asia. I don't know that we have had Directors living in other parts of the US. One of the two most recent amendments to the bylaws allows online meetings. The problem is NOT the Board of Directors, how many or how often or even how they meet. The problem is that the membership can no longer support the organisation. I don't like it, but nothing I've seen in the past year has given me any reason to question the conclusion. I'm still considering whether to accept my nomination to the Board.
Have all users been approached to join and support Grex? Many may not follow the conferences (where there is not much persuasion to join, anyway). What are the member only "perqs", for that matter?
Voting. Really, should there be anything else?
Re #25: what users? *sigh* *in a slow dr0ning voice* You need to get people interested in Unix and the Grex community. To do so: 1. First you need to attract people here by offering things not found elsewhere. Firewall-checking scanner (wrapper around nmap), ping, traceroute, whois, dig, host, nslookup - with wrappers around all this. Geek magnet. 2. Customized domain name with web-space and e-mail: april.cyberspace.org with homepage templates - Chick magnet. 3. Create CSS flyers for easy printing so people can advertise - Chick magnet. 4. CGI/MySQL - Geek magnet. 5. Google access to forums and party - Chick & Geek magnet. Also attracts old ladies and, i guess, old geezers. Lots of advertisement with niche groups (gay forums, computers for kids, lifehacker, make magazine, IRC, wannabee hackers, Facebook, etc) 6. reduce the waiting time to a couple of seconds. --------- None of them will pay.. when you have 50 people in 'who': 6. Some geeks will volunteer to help out, to impress the chicks. They may be conned into paying because they can stick it on their resume. 7. Take on 25 paying 'volunteers' and you can rest in peace, especially if you have 25 female volunteers. This may sound ridiculous to you BUT I TOLD YOU SO years ago! (and i can dig out the posts if you are so inclined) Check this out: http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?nullogic@sdf http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?blakkat@sdf http://hapiworm.feckov.org/me.jpg http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?ellainix@sdf and they have a facebook page with a few 100 more that are even hotter. here are some more uglies: http://sdf.org/?sdfers To do all this, you should have started building up "volunteers" when csmcgee was on the board. Instead you hold stupid meetings where you rub each others toes and gloat about stupid bylaws!! Gahh! SDF CHARGES MONEY! You need to pay to take a dump (quite literally)! And they have more hot chicks than Arbornet AND M-Net put together! In case you guys don't remember (because you were too busy stuffing your faces [a good thing imho - a army never travels empty] and wondering which bylaw to screw) we had chicks like bipolar, nevi, barnali, zoezig, and others logging in! And they actually stayed for some time - like a year at least. ---------------------------- Simple question: since csmcgee came AND left.. and now kentn.. how many new features have we added.. umm.. actually better yet.. do we have as many features as we once had? No CGI (we used to have that), tel/write are off by default, mail was off until some time back, web-site still not fully functional, validation makes it harder to do work, newuser was AWOL for what I assume was a large chunk of time, no wiki page because we aren't notable - neither is SDF BUT SDF works and now he's got that bsdtalk interview.. gahh! Even SDF's restricted shell has more commands even if it's buggy (as in.. you can get arpa-crap for free) http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?erinb@sdf http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?sah@sdf http://sdf.org/tour/sdfers/gen.cgi?phm@sdf
And SDF has all sorts of lame games.. but that appears to be very popular for some weird reason.. people are always playing netris and comchess (did i mention a certain eclipse.cs.pdx.edu 7680 with no users who we could talk to. yes i did! when csmcgee was in town! so did anyone contact them?)
grrr! *bops rane on his thick skull* let me see now: blbtq, strcpy, jhesse, pbbl, vvg - and this is WAY too many. prolly because it's 1.30 am here and i should be sleeping. *grumbles* 5 guys with weirdo logins! i'm sure they'll gladly signup if you ask them. USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE WHAT blbtq p0 ohai004.lava.net 1:05PM 23 /usr/bin/lynx strcpy p1 109.109.54.82 10:40AM 4:09 -bash cross p2 ip-66-80-251-66. Fri11PM 0 -bash jhesse p3 c-66-41-158-63.h Fri10AM 0 elm kentn p4 24-231-194-179.d 1:43PM 37 /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/fronttal cross p5 ip-66-80-251-66. Mon07AM 0 /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/fronttal pbbl p6 pool-74-106-22-1 Fri11AM 37 alpine rcurl p7 c-24-11-168-114. 2:37PM 0 /usr/bin/perl /usr/local/bin/fronttal tod p8 web60.justhost.c 2:48PM 0 gate /a/t/o/tod/.cfdir/ft.buffer blbtq p9 ohai003.lava.net 2:57PM 0 /usr/bin/lynx veek pa 117.192.27.111 3:00PM 0 w vvg pc 93-127-18-143.st Tue08PM 23:51 -bash
Rane, you don't need permission or sanction: feel free to contact any one you want to ask them to become members. Once upon a time, outbound Internet access was limited to members, who had offered identification we could use for net hygiene, which other users had not. I'd be satisfied if just every participant in coop would renew their membership. We need more than that, but it's like a lawyer at the bottom of the ocean: A start.
Most non-profits that depend upon membership have active membership campaigns, usually appealing to people to support whatever good purposes they have. Grex doesn't even have a membership committee, working on ideas to gain members, especially from users.
re #31 thats an idea, have a subgroup of board members form a membership committee that would research ideas and report their findings to the full board.
Subgroup of what, five people? How about some volunteers from the community for that?
I had a idea, instead of all this: I'll create a 'volunteers' account (already done). Then I could stick a volunteers home page in it - just like any normal user (I'll use the Grex template - just color it blue and say this is 'un-official'). Then a small form, so volunteers can add register projects - i could run this off Arbornet for the time being. Once we have enough completed projects and volunteers staff can just merge the projects with the main web-site, OR link to this from the main web-site with a disclaimer. It's useable straight away, when things stabilize we can merge which creates little work, and it's safe from lawsuits because you haven't linked to it from the main website.
the main site has to be formal but this can be anything.. I'll stick huge disclaimers all over about it being insecure code and run at your own risk..
btw, one thing i'm still not sure about.. would it be a good idea to go with 'Grex'? I mean, on the one hand there's talk of moving to the cloud and using cyberspace.org as a cool domain to lure users.. anyway for now i'm using grex.
resp:34 Why don't we just create a directory under the main WWW repository for that? It seems like a good idea; it would be easier to use and manage if it didn't rely on the existence of a specific account, though. resp:36 Use grex. Grex is the name of the service; cyberspace is the name of the parent organization.
this is kind of what I was thinking of (it's very much work in progress): http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/index1.xhtml 1. random guy sees the volunteer-page and wants to add his fav project so he adds it to the "brown/red" colored part in the middle via a form. 2. then he works on it, finishes it, and marks it as finished *Tor - tutorials. 3. then some other volunteer sticks it in the right pane after checking it. 4. When sufficient material is finished.. it's moved to regular grex whenever by staff. --------- resp 37: well.. simple really :p Main reason 1. It's very likely to end in abject failure because of a lack of volunteers :( right now, it's in some ordinary grex account so if it fails, I don't get red in the face :) MR 2. Random ppl who I don't know will be doing (i hope) most of the work.. think shady characters like Chad. I will then proof-read (or he will proof-read the C tutorials).. lets say someones account gets hacked because of my mistakes.. i get red-faced IF it's under main/official www. In some random low-lvl account :) I don't care a hoot. 3. +i was hoping this would not be an official Grex thing just yet.. i have no idea what sort of scumbags will be contributing.. it could work to our advantage if it's unofficial.. and if it doesn't Grex isn't made any worse off :)
I've decided to accept the nomination. Y'all can decide if you want me on the Board. :)
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