in 2005, there were ~20,000 entries in /etc/passwd.

right now, there are 3382.

bye, grex.

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yeah, it's pretty sad.  :-(

It would be cool if we could come up with ideas to revive things here...
I  wish we had more regular meetings to continue discussing issues such
as  this.

i;d like to know what to do with all those   rt emails i haver started
getting. to wit:
  
 el enamorado via RT  ... Thu Jun 04 17:38:05 2009: Request 1250
  

cross, could this have anything to do with your extremely restrictive default
shell?

is there actually any effective way for users to get a functional shell?

  
i thik it;s thorugh the  request stuff ... that i;d llkke to know how
to handle ....
  
  
as for the smaller numberr of entries ... prolly a big reap in hte
last 6 mos or so.

resp:5 Numbers were way down before I put that in; they've been
that way for the last couple of years.

If you want to complain about the restricted shell, I ask you: Would
you prefer to have Chad and others routinely taking Grex down for
a week at a time?

resp:6 There are some fairly detailed instructions in the staff
conference.

Of course I wouldn't prefer that, but the choice isn't one or the other.  Why
can't we have it so Grex will provide access upon receipt of a token monetary
sum?  Why can't we have a group of trusted users who are able to ban any
addresses cdalten might use?  Why can't we have a system where people are
actually able to be validated and get access?  Why can't there be a shell
that, at the very least, is a lot less restrictive than essentially useless
default?

resp:8 Actually that was talked about and approved at the last board
meeting (token money = access).  It just needs to be implemented.  That
means me figuring out how to implement it.

The problem with banning addresses is that there are always more.  And
for whatever bizarre reason, Chad is very motivated.

We do have a system where people can get validated, but we don't have 
enough people doing the actual validation part.

We can relax some the restrictions in resh, but there's a line between
being usefully permissive and becoming a vector for system problems.  I
am really not sure where the balance lies, but maybe others have a
better sense of that.  What do you suggest we add to it?

I know. He is very motivated. I cant figure out why. 

I havent been validating people since the last time he caused trouble. I
can start again if you want. I hate to keep people out but I think as
soon as we start letting people in, it is only a matter of time...

I think we should do validation; he'll get in regardless, no matter what
we do.

Ok. when I have some time, I'll start up with them again. 

i'v sorta got a handle on validation ... 

Good; I'm glad someone does. I wouldn't know where to begin on the 
validation process.

  
i ahve a fair handle on dong validatisno now ... since cross did such
a good job setting it up.  (tnx). 
  
a lot of the ppl are askign for email, which is no longer defaulted into
when after s hell  is picked ... pick email client.

the    !grex-limits   command  and !grex-principles may need some massaging?
  
also, 
  
grex% faq
tail: /cyberspace/docs/grex-faq: No such file or directory
grex% 
  
needs some attntion ... 
  
actually, i thik i oughta go start newuser for myself just to see how
it works not .. and then ask myslef for validation ... etc.
  
i'll ask a root to kill the account later.

re #16
 i ahve a fair handle on dong 

TMI!!

  
 
grex% f -m dong
f: dong: no such user.
grex%
  
invisible handle ?

Uh, whoa. Sorry to chime in a little late,

but what kind of new user would actually pay to use Grex?
Even a "token sum". Which I hope would be around $1.

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