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We were buying jugs of spring water but six months ago switched to using a PUR/Brita pitcher system. Works great in terms of eliminating the dry, chlorine taste, yet it spares the flouride.
Bear in mind that Ann Arbor has much cleaner, better tasting water than a sot of cities, so your perception of "needing a filter" may be a bit off. I've been in small towns where the tap water tasted like swimming pool water!
Yeah, our water is pretty good, but nonetheless, cleaner 8is* better, to quote an ad for Pur. ;)
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CU rated them a few months ago (the issue's around here somewhere). They found a pretty wide range of talent in the filtering abilities. There are some basic measures you can take if you're worried about lead pipes (or lead solder) - never drink or cook with (tap) hot water, run the water a bit before using to discard what's been sitting in your pipes, etc.
Perhas one should run the water long enough to be sure that you arn't getting the stuff that has been sitting in the city mains either ;-) I wonder if any of the mains are made of lead? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those pipes down there are close to 100 years old. I wonder how many of the iron pipes are packed with lead? I also suspect that most of the old ones are coated with a nice, protective, coating of calcium, lime, etc. like our hot water heaters.
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We have friends who had a water filter. After a while (~1 year?) she developed a rash around her mouth at about the same time that their filter started giving off "musty tasting water". After trying to treat the rash with the usual battery of cures, she stopped drinking the filtered water. The rash went away and the filter became fill for some land fill.
Valerie doesn't say what she wants to "filter" from her water. Filters, technically, just remove particulate matter, which can also include bacteria. Removal or hardness or other chemicals requires absorption and/or ion-exchange. CU uses the term "filter" for these treatments too. The better overall term is "water purification systems". Most "taste" improving filters use activated charcoal. This also removes some chlorine and lead, but does nothing for hardness or bacteria. Ion exchange resins remove hardness and heavy metals (lead, copper). Some filter cartridges have both charcoal and ion-exchange resins. Finally, to remove pathogens, requires extremely (sub-micron) filters. Pathogen filters are not needed in public water supplies that are chlorinated (or ozonated), but are now necessary when camping and drinking from rivers and lakes (thanks to human habits, which have introduced giardia and other noxious stuff into wilderness water). CU (7/97) has it right - determine first what you want to remove from your water supply. Incidentally, that case of a filter eventually producing "musty" water - bacteria and molds will grow in filters, especially if the water is not adequately chlorinated, or if chlorinated water is not flushed through regularly. Having such filters sitting around with little use is asking for molds to grow. Even laboratory installations have problems with this, and are back-washed and treated with Chlorox (!) regularly.
That would explain it. These friends were on a well.
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We filter mainly to remove the chlorine and ammonia, which combine to form a stinky compound that I can smell in my hair. THe ammonia is put in to keep the chlorine from evaporating - they combine to form chloramines. Otherwise city water is pretty clean, having already been filtered through sand and charcoal. They add chlorine just for insurance, in case something leaks in. There are two kinds of carbon filter - granulated and carbon block, which remove respectively 97 and 99% of the chlorine, when new. After they get filled up with chlorine they absorb less. When you can smell or taste the water coming through they should be changed!!! Sears used to sell block filters for $20. We bought a case of them for $7 each, and can sell them to someone for $10 (to account for inflation) or let you know the place to buy a case of 20. Old filters look brown, having accumulated enough particulate matter in them that bacteria can grow in the filter, but supposedly they do not get through the carbon block because the pores are too small. But their waste products get through and taste and smell bad. You can buy a chlorine test kit from a swimming pool place for about $8. The water turns yellow when you add a reagent if there is chlorine getting through, and then you can change it before the pointt where it smells. Or you can change it every year just to be sure, if you don't want to test the water. (Keep the test kit in the fridge and it is good for many years). We have put in a larger filter (20" long, in a 'big blue' housing) to filter all the water in the house. These run about $35, I think, and one has lasted us several years, but for typical usage you would change them at least once a year. I can smell the chlorine when I do laundry - like a swimming pool. Our drinking water has 3 ppm (parts per million) chlorine in it, and home swimming pools only have 1 (municipal onnes have 3). Chlorine forms carcinogenic compounds with organic molecules, and destroys vitamins when you cook in chlorinated water. And it tastes bad. Write in for addresses for filters and test kits, I can hunt for them. You can also buy a bacterial filter, but ours has not collected any bacteria for over two years. City water is already pretty clean, except for the chlorine and ammonia.
Sand and charcoal do not remove bacteria and viruses. The chlorine is added solely to disinfect the water. Otherwise not only harmful organisms could get through, but all sorts of molds and common bacteria would grow in the mains, adding (dis)taste to the water. The addition of ammonia also makes the chlorine less active so that it forms fewer harmful chlorinated compounds (like chloroform, etc). I think Ann Arbor now ozonates its water, doesn't it?
Yes it does. We went on their annual tour this last spring and the building where they ozonate the water is quite impressive with all its stainless plumbing and ozone generators. Since ozone is very unstable, it can not keep the mains clean, as Rane said. Amonia is no longer added, from what I understood. When I tested for it, over a year ago, I found none. (Water test kit for tropical fish.)
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I don't know about the tours, but a few years ago I called up the water plant and asked for their most recent test results. They were happy to send me the summary and a lot of details. It made for interesting reading. Others concerned about the city water supply might want to do the same, in addition to the testing they do at home.
On the tour, they said they ozonate, and then add both chlorine and ammonia, in the form of chloramine, I think (the combination).
They use to use chloramine but built the ozone facility to meet new water quality requirements. Now they just add a little chlorine to keep the water disinfected while it travels around in the water mains. Ozone is very unstable and can't do that job.
I went after they started ozonating, and I think they said they still add chloramine, because chlorine comes out of the water too easily. One of us should call and check on it. Chloramine is much harder to filter out, we had to put in a large whole-house filter.
The ammonia reacts with the chlorine to form the rather unstable compound chloramine. In effect, this reduces the immediate concentration of chlorine, thereby reducing the tendency to chlorinate other substances to from things like chloroform, while providing a reservoir of chlorine that lasts longer in the water mains. This also reduces the amount of chlorine that has to be added to ensure that a suitable level gets to the far reaches of the system.
But are they still adding chloramine, or just chlorine?
They add chlorine *and* ammonia. Chloramine itself is a highly explosive liquid. The chloramine is formed in solution (no, its not explosive in solution).
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