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I try a real pharmacy like the one that's located on Washington behind Tally Hall. It's a hospital supply type of item they may carry. Good luck.
I can verify that it is possible to buy boric acid in Ann Arbor, and that it does work on cockroaches. My roommate bought some a couple of years ago and we never had problems afterward. I don't know where he got it, though. :(
Try Ace Hardware or pehaps Schlenker Hardware.
As someone who unfortunately has dealt with a lot of cockroaches in her life, I can attest that for all practical purposes, a box of Borax has the same wonderful effect. It's a lot cheaper and easier to find. If you read the box, it's mostly boric acid, anyway. Next to the detergents in any store. ..
As an afterthought, when i had my war with the roaches, I mixed the Borax with instant cocoa mix, because the sugar and chocolate attract them to the acid, which they would otherwise avoid. Believe me, it works. You can then vacuum the mess up when you think you've finished them off. I was told when I moved down south that cockroaches were just a part of life here, but they are not a part of MY life. Try it and let me know how it works.
(agora item 97 "Where can you buy boric acid?" is now linked as consumer item 15)
Many hardware stores sell boric acid. Consider getting, also, a bulb duster or atomizer with which to apply it and a dust mask to wear during application. There is an extensive discussion of roaches on M-net that you may wish to consult, with regard to their elimination and prevention of recurrences.
My roommate woke up and says that he got boric acid at a drugstore (he's not sure which one), and remembers it being near the iodine. We just put it in little dishes around the kitchen and it seemed to work.
Boric acid works wonderfully on roaches. It's also extremely effective at killing ants. Unfortunately the survivors quickly learn where not to step "most of the time" and the colony survives, albeit with a higher mortality rate. Fortunately, roaches aren't sociable insects, so they aren't nearly as hard to eradicate.
Re #5: true borax contains no boric acid. It is sodium tetraborate decahydrate. Both boric acid and borax are quite toxic. About FIVE GRAMS of either is the FATAL dose for children. For what it's worth, borax would taste bitter and boric acid sour; I would expect some difference in the preferences of cockroaches for the two. However, I recommend against the exposed use of either if children or pets ever enter your home.
Marcus raises a valuable point. Roaches tend to follow paths, and if you don't poison along the path you will miss a lot of them. Paths, of course, can move to avoid poisons. For the fastest elimination, roach traps can be used to locate paths (they aren't very good at eliminating roaches, but can indicate where the roaches are) and poison can be placed accordingly. But the only way to "get rid" of roaches is to reduce or eliminate their potential places of residence, places of access to your apartment, and food and water sources.
boric acid is indeed available from most pharmacies. it is also poisonous to pets and humans in large ( comparatively ) doses ( see above ). I mix it with pancake syrup, anything sweet will do. Then spread this on a small piece of paper or cardboard and place it in the path of the roaches but not somewhaere where pets or children can get at it. Roaches will all be gone within a day or two.
(I'm sorry: I have to do this Valerie: tnt hasn't been here yet.) Boric Acid?!? Valerie! How could you--you're being roachist! DO YOU REALIZE WHAT BORIC ACID DOES TO THE LITTLE CREATURES? It makes them fall apart! It gets inside their little joints and messes everything up. It's the exact opposite of oil! Instead of lubricating their tiny, fragile, God created and delicate joints, it pulverizes them. You'll have roach parts all over your floor!
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I thought that possession of roach parts was illegal in Michigan.
Not THOSE roach parts ;)
ROACHES HAVE RIGHTS TOO!
Damn straight!
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"used chiefly in the manufacture of ceramics, cements, glass, enamels, for fireproofing, and in medicine in aqueous solution as a mild antiseptic" -Random House Dictionary of the English Language
spoken like a true six-letter-word-gamer
Yeah, well, I got that dictionary out to play the game, and now it's too heavy to put back, so I gotta use it.
Hmmm..the only six letter word there is Random, and it is "not permitted".
It is if you un-capitalize it...and kill it with boric acid (just to add some on-topic content).
Since we are back on the topic - - let's take it in a slightly different direction, and consider the problem of citizens buying chemicals in general. Once it was pretty easy to buy from chemical supply houses, so persons needing chemicals for art, or photography, or even home medication (!), could freely order them. However this freedom has essentially been lost today, because of a small fraction of chemical users, who abused the privilege (by making dangerous products), and also because of a general public ignorance of chemistry. Nowadays, you can only buy chemicals "approved" for retail sale (through hardware, hobby, craft, etc stores), or you have to have an affiliation with a business or school, and even then the supply houses ask a lot of questions (their hide is partly at risk). Example: boric acid can still be found for public sale, but try to buy sodium cyanide for home electroplating!
Much of what we take for granted in the way of home chemical products including soap, cleansers, and paint, were at one time commonly made at home. I have a couple books with such formulae, though as Rane says, getting the chemical ingredients may be a problem now. In some cases that's good (do we want people making and using lead-based house paint, for example).
That question reflects the failure of public education to teach general chemistry from a practical perspective. Everyone should *know* that you don't want to make lead-based paints (or any number of other noxious formulae). Everyone should also *know* what the chemicals are that are involved in chemical spills - instead, the newspapers report almost total gibberish with respect to the nature and hazards of spilled chemicals. It is an area of abysmal public knowledge.
Indeed, there was an article in the Ann Arbor news recently about some kids that were arrested for making explosives. The State Police officer was quoted as saying that they were attempting to "make neon", and that numerous suspicious items were seized, including "stuff in bottles". The story about "making neon" was repeated on two subsequent days, in fact...
That article was typical of the widespread ignorance of elementary chemistry (and was partly responsible for my introducing this thread). Those kids were certainly not using their knowledge of chemistry in only constructive pursuits. Perhaps if the public - and the parents in particular - were educated in elementary chemistry, things would not have gone the way they did, and the kids could have been guided into more constructive directions. (I'm not sure, however, that even then one could divert pyromania - after all, that's a public obsession, witness fireworks.)
I read the article in the DeeTroit News, & it clearly indicated that the miscreants claimed they were looking for the transformer to make some sort of light. It didn't say that the police believed them.
i have some...not sure if it's legal to mail though...
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Unfortunate, but true. Before you can teach everyone chemistry, I guess you have to teach them responsibility, and we don't do a very good job with that for too many people. Perhaps chemistry is just too *powerful* a knowledge, to teach everyone? This harks back to alchemists, sorcerers, magicians, etc. Anyway, a sad commentary on society.
Actually, there's an even easier fix. Just make sure every high school chem lab in the country has a couple of nice bricks of sodium and a nice big fat canister of fluorine. Both make *very* neat colours. :-)
(that would provide an instant education, wouldn't it?)
Scientific and technical expertise usually runs ahead of morality and responsibility in Western society. Witness the nuclear weapons mess.
Gee, I thought you tought computer science, not philosophy!
One is merely a special case of the other.
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