Well you got to loe seeing all of the trilogy on the big screen with the
added footage. Dark Horse also has lots of comics even redoing the moive books
to add the footage in the specil edition. 

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George Lucas says that much of the next Star Wars trilogy will be produced
using digital technology, allowing the films to be made for half the cost that
standard filmmaking techniques would require... And speaking of the next Star
Wars trilogy, James Earl Jones says that he will do the voice of Darth Vader
for the final moments of the film, although the voice will be done by the
actor playing Vader until the moment that he dons that famous black armor...

ugh, dark horse doing more star wars?  I don't know about you, but dark empire
is oone of the worst pieces of sci fi that i"ve read.. and certainly the worst
star wars material out there.  more of the sme makes my stomach churn.  I
mean, they destoryed everything the rebels had faught for... making the movies
irrelevant.. and then one it all back again in the blink of an eye.  it's
stupid, it isucked, and I refuse to recognize its effects on the star wars
universe.

The new movies are going to bre mighty nice, though.  Georget finally gets
to add more of his own stuff to the universe, yand you know that he's not
going to put out a subpar product.  Too bad it'll take so long to dub in the
digital effects.. but that's the price we have tp pay, I guess.  that and
however inflation affects ticket prices..

I should point out that according to what information about anakin skywalker
we've been given, he wouldn't don the armor until midway through the second
film.  the first film is aobut the clone wars.. anakin is still good and
skywalkery during then.  It'll be the second fil,m , tentatively being calle
the Rise and Fall of Anakin Skywalker, that he'd battle obi-wan the first
time, nearly get killed, and have to put on the armor and more specifically
the mask.

If you may have noticed, they added elements to the specail edition from
Shadows of the Empire. Al of the Dark Horse comics get passed through lucas
film before being published with a stamp of aproval and they ARE officaly part
of the the real Star Wars story.

theoreticaly, but I dont' really have to believe what happpened in dark
empire.  shadows of the empire was fine.. but dark empire totally lost
plausibility.  wasn't even well scripted, much less plotted.

I get Shadows of the Empire and Dark Empire confused... which is which?

dark empire is the first thing that dark horse did.. six hyears after return
of the jedi, and six months after heir to the empire.  In a saga what was way
too short for what they were doing, they destroyed everything that had
happened in the previous movie and in heir to the empire.  It was ludicrous..
they even brought boba fett back, and he had like two pages of comic relief.
it sucked.

Yeah, but what happened, I mean what was the plot of each?

ok, Shadows of the Empire has to do with everything which happens in the
galaxy between the second and third movies. This was a plotby lucas to kind
of make a multimedia event in Star Wars in the forms of video games, cards,
comics, etc. Pretty lame  iI think because Star Wars is supposed to accessible
to everybody as a family thing, and something like that just sort of makes
Star Wars seem so merchandised. 

Thanks Ben, but what was Dark Empire about?

hey dave, you know who could answer that question? Dagny Hanner. I think she
was collecting some the issues for a while . I'm not sure if she has all o
fthem tho. 

Dagney was in comics? I did not know that. Well, she's not here now, so we
can't ask her. Maybe you could convince her to open an account here on grex
just so she can answer this question... Or maybe not. (Now, I'm being the wise
ass)

six years after the destruction of death star *II, several months after heir
to the empire/darkforce rising/last command ends, the rebellion has been
driven back off coruscant.  they are no longer the new republic, they're the
rebellion again, and they're staging hit and run strikes angainst he empire
with two stolen sstar destroyers.  There's a new secret leader of the empire
consolitdatin forces, though, and they're fighting a losing battle.  luke gets
taken by a mysterious force and leaves everyone else to wonder where he's
gone.  Meanwhile, world devvestators, which suck up matter from planets and
eventually convert itnto weapons are ravaging mon calamari.  Ackbar rather
cornicly.. actually, totally cornily.. calls them far wrs worse than the death
star (how?  it blows planets away.. these things tear up the surface, and take
their bloody time doing it, too).  Luke goes over the deark side, therefore
nullifying everything accomplished in return..a s the empoeror is *still
alive* but eventually breaks free with leia's help as the empreror's new 10
mile super star destoryer is swallowed up by a force storm, killing the
emperor (again).  if you think my explanation was hard to flollow, try reading
the series.  it sucked.

I just saw the new Jedi yesterday. The didn't reall add much except for the
Jabba scene with the band (added backup singers) and the end scene with the
fireworks (pretty lame actualy). I excepted more.

That's more than they did for Empire. By the time Jedi came out, Lucas had
created most of the technology needed to do a proper job on the movie.
That's how he really wanted Star Wars to look.

I didn't want any more.. it was god enough. I loved it, actually.. that space
battle scene still gives me chills.  It was terrific.  too bad they didn't
blot out the ewoks...

I read (in some Star Wars page) that in the new, soon to be released, trilogy
that Anakin Skywalker runs around with his pants around his ankles for one
scene.  Because he supposedly, "Feels the force." Sounds pretty weird huh?

Ok.  This just in.  I got this info. from some hacker who is a little too
obsesed with Star Wars.  Supposedly, sometime after the new trilogy, there will
be a new episode called, "The bloody Empire." There will be scenes that are,
well, a bit on the ADULT side.  There will be incest scenes with Leia and Luke.
 Han and Chewie will grow strang and effectionate feelings for each other.  And
there will be loads O blood.

Not to mention C3PO's encounter with Snap-On Tools.

ah... how is this guy? Acuse me Al, but is there anything you would like to
add to the converasion without crude jokes?

Al, we're here for intelligent discussion, not jokes.  get out of here unless
ou want to participate.  There are other conferences you can go to.

Considering the last 2 responses, I apologize for my comment.

Does anybody think the extra scenes for the last 2 films of were worth it?
Star Wars had sone real additions to it, while the other 2 movies had
cosmetic changes at best.

Well excuse me!!!!  Ya know!!??? I get this information from some
freaking Hacker, I think that people, ecspecially Star Wars fans, might
want to know about it, and then you go and rag on me!!! Thanks a lot. I
guess I won't be sharing any more information with this room!!

yes, actually, slight cosmetic touches are nice, particularly matte cleanup
s in jedi.  the ones on cloud city really helped out, I thought. 

we won't miss you, al... be intelligent

well, I just want to say one thing: I love the Ewoks. YUB YUB!!FREEEDOM!!!!

I'm going to kill you Ben. There is a reason they cut that out of the Special
Edition. I got to say that the original Ewok (cringe) song sucked sooooo bad!

Ben, I dont' know about you, but the ewoks are damn annoying.  Too bad they
didn't get rubbed out during the etditing changes

hey, I happen to know a lot of people who just love those furry little guys.
They capture they essense of how evil the empire to just the simplest ,
easygoing cultures. I think it's a beautiful bit of irony in how George Lucas
shows that anyone, even little primitive ewoks, can turn the tide when faced
with destructive terrony. Yub yub!

I know even *more* people, including most of the movie critics in the world
and probably four fifths of the trilogy fans on the planet who *hate* them
can we agree to disagree? sides, the funniest part in the movie is when the
ewoks speak english...

Who Ben? Name names...We all hate them damn fuzbals. Face it Ben, your in a
MAJOR minority. For that I kill you. DAMN FUCKING EWOKS!

i have no opinion either way on Ewoks.. calm down dave

Dave, dave, settle down.  I thought the new Celebration song was
inappropriate-- didn't seem very celebratory at all.  It sounded New Agey,
and sounded really reflective-- like some old fogey reminiscing of that
victory.  It didn't fit.  I liked the Ewoks, too.  I'm sure they're annoying,
but how can you not love something cute and cuddly, at least a little bit,
eh?  The song fit them and sounded like something they would play-- and I was
almost singing "Hallelujah" at the end of the movie.  The new song felt weird,
I tell you.  Instead of going, "yahoo!" that new song seemed to be telling
me that I should think twice about the victory-- brood about it, mull it over,
etc.  Gag me with a spoon.  I went home and replayed the song on videotape
the night after I left the theater.

ugh

I liked the new one almost as much, but it came to less of a climazx at the
end.  Ah well, can't have everything.

I didn't like the added footage at the end... all the celebration all over
the universe. it felt to final... like there isn't three more sequels (in
addiction to the three prequels)
   I did like the song better! It was more realistic for differeant cultures
they showed.

I like getting dave all wiled up like that. Well you know , dave, in all
likely hood , I sincerely doubt that George Lucas is ever going to  to get
around makeing anymore sequels , and I think I am happy about that because
I a really kind of gettin gsick of the same actors and characters. I think
it is very appropriate for the end of Jedi to end with a joyful Ewok song,
because it signals that the rebel warriors can now rest after there terrific
struggle for freedom. It is like the end of a fairy tale , and the end of Jedi
signals that now they can go on to their happy ending.  Of course what do we
care how the ending resolves, only if it fits with the main theme of the
movie which is how these people were able to win their freedom from an evil
tyrant. Also , the ewoks never say any english, I think it just might sound
that way to some people.  It is a great series though. 

But your wrong Ben, three moives are already in production... why should the
ending scene in Jedi by a victory? The empire isn't dead yet and the movies
aren't eitherexcept part 7 to come out 2007. Freedom hasn't came to the rebels
yet. OPlus all of the song is song in English then change duriong fianl cut.
I think that the new song shows the different cultures better then the old
one. 
    Star Wars isn't a fairy tale... it's a science fiction. And it's not a
comdey either, which were what the Ewoks were put in there for. They could
have done the whole filnm without the damn fuzzballs and still have the same
theme and feeling. What they should of done was what they were originaly going
to do which was to make that scene with Wookies. Thatwould have protrayed what
they wanted to do without being cute and funny. Plus you could explore the
history of Wookies more by explaining their strugle with the Empire and how
they made Wookies slaves...
   The Ewoks just have no redeeming value to them. Lucas must have needed to
get work for all the midgets he hired for the Jawas in A New Hope.

Heh, I get the picture. I wonder if George will be around to do the final 3
movies.  I wonder what he'd do with them.  I'm think that they'd be like 50
or so years int he future or more.... none of the same characters anyway.

I still hate the new song :P.. I understand epic fantasy formula, and changing
the song so you get a semi-anti-climatic ending seems wrong.. perhaps it was
done to offset the added new footage.  Anyway, I shall remain one of the
minority that likes the Ewoks, arania included.  Even if they don't fit
perfectly within the Star Wars universe, we still like 'em anyway, and nothing
you can say can change that :P :P :P  I wouldn't have cared too much if they
HAD taken 'em out-- I agree scenes at the Wookie world would have been much
cooler (if not so much grimmer)-- but I still like 'em.

well, i guess there's at least somebody else who doesn't hate the little guys.
How could you hate the ewoks , they're a perfectly peaceful people. I think
it would have been very unrealistic for Lucas to have the planet in Jedi be
the wookie homeworld, Kashyyyk. The main reason for this is because the
wookies are already known by the empire and they are a valuable resource to
the empire. If you read the actual book which was written on the movie, the
Death Star would have destroyed which ever planet it was orbitting , just to
break its orbbit if the Rebels hadn't stopped them. They wouldn't want to
sacrifice the wookies. .

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