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hehe.. i hope they don't do a Image vs. Marvel crossover and then combine the
characters into "amalgams"

ouch, that sounds terrible... but since most of the characters at Image are
just clones of Marvel characters (exspecially at Extreme Studios) what would
be the differance? But may I remind you that Image to amalgramed with the
Valiant Universe in Deathmate (way before DC and Marvel even thought of it).
The thing I do not like about these new Image/Marvel crossovers is that they
didnt even try to explain why these characters are meeting up. I would feel
confortable knowing that these are something like elseworlds and dont really
continue into eachs Universe. Another thing I noticed, which can be a bad or
a good thing, is that only the Image talent are working on the crossovers.
Does that mean that Image is doing all the work and Marvel is getting a
persentage?
   The one thing I have noticed with the comic industry is that they are going
crossover crazy. Image with Valiant, Spawn with Batman, Marvel with Malibu,
DC with Marvel, Valiant with Marvel, Image with Marvel, Top Cow with Event,
Shi with everybody, Aliens with Superman, Preditor with Batman,
Ash/Azreal/Batman, Catwoman with Vampirella, Lobo with the Mask, The Mask with
Grifter, X-Men with Star Trek etc. etc. etc. Cant we just sell a book based
on the main character? <sigh>

Yeah.. like Sleepwalker

Yeah, but Sleepwalker couldn't even sell the comic when they HAD crossovers.
lf they made a Sleepwalker/Spawn crossover, nobody would care. It would be
the lowest selling Spawn book ever.

well  *I* would buy one :P

How about a Frew/Spawn?

Hmm.. depends on the writer :P

bite me!

heh heh heh
no thank you :P

Looks like this item got no where since it was just a Wizard hoax. It will
never happen. Plus, Spawn is just too good for spidy.  In sales and power
levels.

yes, but who tells better jokes (well.. spidey until recently, but..)

Spawn is the only thing I think is worth reading in comics today.  Everything
else is too wraapped up in money, gimics, and egotism that it disgusts me.
plus, If I want to get back into spawn, all I ahve to do is buy back issues
going back to 13 or so.  Or I can get people to tell me what's going on. 
X-Men doesn't work that way, they have to puyt out 20 issues a week and expect
me to buy EVERYTHING

I think Todd was trying to make this book a combonation of Cerebus and Fuast
(the play/novel, not the comic book). It's a poetic love story (with action
through in it to fool the kids to reading it) that will probley last for 300
issues. Yes, the pacing is slow and it seems nothing is happening, but the
>subtleties are offen over looked. Really cool book!

Ok-- I'm going to get flamed, but I was disappointed with Spawn.  It took me
a while and a few people to tell me before I realized it's just about a
superhero who turns bad.  I mean, I liked _Sandman_ when I checked it out,
but it's a different kind of grim.  The author is well-read, and the
characters muse over things more.  (Besides, these are not superheroes,
really).  And what's to say Spawn isn't somewhat wrapped up in money?  It's
in demand, that's for sure-- otherwise, the first four issues wouldn't be
worth so much money.

Yes, Spawn is certantly more comercal... I guess that's the fault of it's
sucess. It's always in the top ten comics which doesn't really leave room for
much creative movement. Todd has to be carefull to keep his reader reading,
where as great books like Swamp Thing (another Vertigo book) was picked up
by Alan Moore the let him have full control since they didn't have anything
to loss since it was a low selling book. Alen Moore did his magic and...well
if you read it you know what I'm saying.

I'd also like to point out the reason why Spawn has "gone evil". Todd
McFarlane was trying to tair away everything about Al Simmons until he was
down to nothing. Only then can he build the character to the point where he
finaly turns to the side of good (which is where I see it happening and Todd
hinted at in the letters). When Al has nothing left to lose except is faith...
which will be his turning point.

Ok. Just let me get one thing straight here. Spawn would simply destroy
Spider Man, and Image comics ARE NOT clones of freakin' Marvel comics.
Atleast Todd McFarlene's Spawn isn't. He illustrated the black spider
man series, which was a hit. But he knew what he was doing when he
created Spawn. Todd MacFarlene's the man!!!!!!

Thank you greatly Frank, although you must admit that all of the Rob
Liefeild's characters are Marvel clones. Yet characters like Spawn, Savage
Dragon, The Maxx, Helshock, (maybe Witchblade) are all original.
   Tood said once that Spawn could spin the world on his figure, but it would
take up a lot of his power... I'm sure that web fluid would be no trouble for
him.

hey dave, you always sound so bitter when you talk about Rob Liefield.

Hmmm, I wonder why that is... maybe it's because HE SUCKS!!!!!! (sorry people,
I had to get that out of my system and it proubley was uncalled for, although
most of you agree with me)

spawn's totally evil?  how so?

I hope it's just a phase that the ol spawnster is going through. He can fight
it can't he?  The devil doesn't exist anyways, noone's inherently evil in real
life.

Ben, the... IT"S A COMIC! they can have the devil if they want... or else
there would be no spawn

 true, but I'd still like to think of Malebolgia as just a big scary alien
who can be overcome, otherwise, why haven't we seen God yet in the series?

We have seen God... It was that old lady that they called Mary. What is this
alien stuff? You sound like the Heaven's Gate cult, Ben. If you believe in
the bible (and I know you do becasue I know you) then what was it that was
messing with Job? Plus, the devil can be inherently evil because that's what
he is. He not a human. Plus who to say nobody is isn't inherently evil? What
about Hitler, Manson, and all these child rappest. We have prisons full of
people who aren't that nice. And why can't humans, and devils be inherently
evil and aliens can? There has been may that have tryed to over come
Malebolgia and nobody has won. The Count is the only one that came close just
because Malebolgia was bored with him...

f
well , I respect the Bible for the essense of the stories which somebody put
down from an oral tradition, but I am far from taking a lot of the stories
literally. I just don't believe that anyone, including Spawn, can in
themseselves be  evil.  Al Simmons was imperfect he was not evil, he may have
done evil things , but he was not evil. Of course, the creation of Spawn is
an evil creation by Malebolgia, but that is assuming that  evil can actually
be manifest in a bodily form. hm.

Okay Ben, can aliens be evil?

Ben, remember this... Spawn is *fiction*, he doesn't exist.  Therefore, 
he can be totally evil if he wants.  When did he become totally evil is 
my question, and how does he manifest it?

you read it after I get those issues back from Dan... were talking more
resently like a little before issue #50 he got REALLY dark.
   Steve is right, anything can be anything in a story. Including evil. (Ben
hasn't been to New York lately...)

I just got myself issues 50-present, I'd be interested to see him in his 
truly dark state.  Todd does mention that everything he's created is 
purely storytelling.. He doesn't even believe in deities, he only 
fictionalizes them.  Oh, pre-51,  is that scar on spawn's face from 
batman's battarang or something else?

Right! It from the battarang or something else... The Spawn/Batman crossover
did not happen in either Image of DC universes (much like a elseworlds). Yet
in the Spawn comic they did not fully explain it. It could have been from the
bomb with Houdini.

When did it show up?

Taking this topic in a totally different direction, I was just pondering what
woiuld happen if someone decided "hey, Spawn Batman was a great crossover,
lets make it into a movie!"  Assuming they worked with Frank and Todd and
didn't commercialize it, I'd love to see a Spawn Batman movie myself.  

It'd be interestin to see after the Spawn movie comes out, and then maybe
George Clooney can go agenst spawwny baby then.

Never going to happen my friends. Lets look back shall we. Now, it's much
easier to have a crossover in comics then in movies or TV. That's because of
the different illensing agreements with big hollywood companies. Lets take
DC's characters for example... Batman (and all related characters) are on a
seperate deal then the rest of the DC universe. That's why in the Flash TV
show they changed the costume and name of riddler to the jokester (played
wonderfuly by Mark Hamel). Another example is when Superman had a trading card
set for the The Doomsday and Funeral which reprinted several images from the
comic to the trading cards, Batman was replaced by Captain Marvel. Now the
even though Warner Brothers owns both Batman and Superman there wil be
problems getting Batman in the Superman movie...
  Now lets take another example. Alien and Predator are bothed owned by
Twentieth Century Fox yet under different agreements. You've seen a crossover
in comics and even in the arcade, but never in a movie (although in the end
of Preditor 2 in the spaceship you see an Alien skull with the rest of the
trophies). Now if these guys are owned by the same company can't meet up
together then how can they ever do a crossover with Warner Brothers in a film?
  Spawn is illensed to New World (right?) which means he'll never see Batman.
Frankly I wouldn't want it. Spawn doesn't need the hollywood crap, that why
they went with a independant film company.

I know... most good ideas never make it to movies, only bad ones.  As a point
of fact, almost no movie crosseovers happen... I'm sure they ahve, but I can't
think of any right now.  Besides, it's worth more money if they make two
separate movies that can both get larger grosses.

Yeah, hollywood companies don't like to give away any money, let alone
splitting the profets with another company...

Curse of Spawn was originally going to be various story arcs about Spawn (and
the people they touch) told by various creators. When Mike Grell impressed
Todd with his Curse story, Todd made it into it's own mini-series, Spawn the
Impaler. Since then Alan McElroy and Dwayne Turner have stayed on the book
and the point of the different creators was lost.
   My question here is, what writer or artist would you like to see make their
interpretation of Spawn?

Jeff Smith, Sergio Aragones, and Stan Lee, heh.

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