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Grex Comics Item 17: SiP
Entered by carson on Fri Apr 19 00:57:38 UTC 1996:

does anyone else read Strangers In Paradise? Is it really moving
to the Homage imprint, along with Astro City?

53 responses total.



#1 of 53 by biohazar on Thu Jul 4 00:08:24 1996:

Homage Comics got me on the edge of my seat. Strangers in Paradice, Astro
City, Leave it to Chance. EEEEH! I can't wait until they come out.


#2 of 53 by bio on Sat Sep 7 22:00:29 1996:

I have read SiP lately and I most say it is one of the best comics that has
ever come out. I got Vol.2 tpb (that's issues vol.2 1-9) first and I couldn't
put it down. I was up untill way past my bed time reading it. I then got the
Vol.1 tpb (the the collected of the mini) and it brought it to more levels.
I really love SiP. The same reason I love Bone, Friends of Maxx, and Madman.
It just isn't a story about two over stuffed guys pounding on each other, it's
real true live drama. Nothing but good stories. I thing that the superhero
genre has been written ten times over and doesn't hardly have anything
original. These stories really explore the media.


#3 of 53 by bio on Sat Sep 7 22:04:05 1996:

In November, Homage comics will become an imprint in Image. The creators will
still have full creative controll that they would before Image. See item 22
(Image News) for more info.


#4 of 53 by bio on Mon Dec 16 00:40:29 1996:

I just got Vol.3 of SiP. I really really loved it. One of the best stories
that kept me on the egde of my seat and asking for more. It's easy to see I
loved this. I exspecially loved the part where Kat and Francine were getting
close. But, I read the first issue at Homage after and was greatly
disapointed. In fact I would go far enough to say I hated it. First thing I'd
like to point out is that the whole superhero could be ripped out of the book
and it would be an improvement. Then the rest of story wasn't much beter. I
mean, after the dream Francine wake up to her child (ugh). It seems we have
gone ten years into the future where Katcho and Francine have broken up???
I don't like that! That means he nowhere to go with the story. I mean in the
past when Terry Moore talked about writting the story he said that he would
plot each issue but the characters changed. The story and the characters
dictacted the story which I really like. But I don't know what Terry was
thinking when he wrote this story... So in conclution, Stranger in Paradice
1-13 COOL!, Strangers in Paradice (Homage) BLA!


#5 of 53 by otaking on Thu Dec 19 14:28:02 1996:

I agree with you about the superhero sequence. It seemed to be the way to
show everybody that Image now publishes SiP more than anything else.
I'm still willing to give Terry Moore the benefit of the doubt regaurding
the direction he's aking this comic.

I still hope that this is all a dream somehow....


#6 of 53 by bio on Mon Dec 23 18:16:06 1996:

I think it had more to do with Jim Lee trying to draw SiP and Terry gave him
a chance.


#7 of 53 by dbassman on Mon Dec 23 19:10:51 1996:

I haven't read SipP yet, but im gonna read my friends copy of vol 2, he wants
me to be veeerry careful wit it


#8 of 53 by bio on Tue Feb 18 00:08:12 1997:

We're up to issue #3. It's gotten a lot better, but I still have that scene
from #1 in the back of my mind. They should have never done that first comic.


#9 of 53 by otaking on Wed Feb 19 02:27:34 1997:

They shouldn't have done that superhero SiP story, but Image wanted to attract
their fans. What other way to attract superhero fans with some goofy dream
sequence by a "hot" Image artist. Of course, we're all waiting for everything
to fall apart after the flash forward. It's now just a matter of time and
will probably kill the series when we find out what happened to Francine and
Katchoo to make them break up. There'll be nothing left to tell at that
point.


#10 of 53 by bio on Wed Feb 19 07:34:43 1997:

What was Terry Moore thinking?


#11 of 53 by otaking on Wed Feb 26 12:29:52 1997:

Terry Moore wants to do other projects. He loves to do SiP, but he wants
more. Unfortunately, Lady Supreme sucks! I don't think Moore should work
with established characters after reading that. I do have higher hopes
for his upcoming story in Gen13 Fanzine though. He really should try to
do more original stories.


#12 of 53 by anasazi on Wed Feb 26 16:03:02 1997:

well i have read SiP for a while now.  I have all three tpb editions.  I liked
SiP in black and white better then in colour but that is amatter of prefence. 
I

doing on thign fora while gets boring even  for great writers and artists.
I just hope that this isa phase he is goign through and will pass in the next
couple of issues.



#13 of 53 by biohazar on Fri Feb 28 00:58:17 1997:

It's Gen13 Bootleg, not fanize which Terry will be doing a story (just to nit
pick). I'm all for letting him  do different stories and all, but this story
line where he has Francine and Katcho break up is sick! What is he thinking?


#14 of 53 by otaking on Fri Feb 28 12:59:35 1997:

Even the best of relationships can fall apart. Considering the extraordinary
events that have happened to them so far and their secret pasts which still
haven't been fully revealed to us or each other, it's not too inconceivable
that something would tear them apart. It still SUCKS that Terry would do
this though.


#15 of 53 by biohazar on Sun Mar 9 05:42:33 1997:

It's gotten to issue number #4 and the feeling of doom is slowly fading, but
still. I really liked this issue but where they ended it... ARG! I CAN'T WAIT
UNTIL NEXT MONTH!


#16 of 53 by otaking on Mon Mar 10 12:47:15 1997:

AND WHERE'S THE OTHER TATTOO? (There, that ought to confuse people who don't
read it.)


#17 of 53 by bio on Thu Mar 13 06:30:29 1997:

Ah gee, I was thinking the same thing! Anybody want to guess...on her ankle?


#18 of 53 by otaking on Mon Mar 17 12:49:58 1997:

I also want to know who the other woman with the tattoo is? Did I just miss
something there? That kind of scared me. I'm wondering if they're trying to
get to Katchoo through Francine now.


#19 of 53 by biohazar on Tue Mar 18 15:51:30 1997:

Ohhhhhh! Why don't they just get the money in the bank that Kat stole and get
out of there?


#20 of 53 by otaking on Wed Mar 19 12:52:01 1997:

Because that would end the series and we have 10 years of story to fill.
It's called "padding."


#21 of 53 by biohazar on Wed Mar 19 20:51:35 1997:

oh


#22 of 53 by dbassman on Wed Mar 26 14:52:34 1997:

It seems to me that Katchoo just doesn't want to blow her cover by not
touching the money.  As soon as she attempts to move the cash from Switzerland
to the U.S. , that weill alert the mob to the fact that she has the money.
Or did she take care of that?


#23 of 53 by bio on Thu Mar 27 05:32:21 1997:

I'm impressed Ben. I didn't think about that, but they COULD just live in
Switzerland...


#24 of 53 by dbassman on Thu Mar 27 21:25:05 1997:

well, the mob could just follow them up to switzerland, possibly putting a
couple horses head on their pillows. The mob would be restricted by borders
really.


#25 of 53 by bio on Fri Mar 28 08:24:27 1997:

You've been watching Godfather again haven't you Ben?


#26 of 53 by dbassman on Wed Apr 2 00:56:32 1997:

 actually I saw it for the first time before spring break, we should rent it
some time , dave.....hm


#27 of 53 by biohazar on Wed Apr 2 08:30:35 1997:

I just saw it the other day...


#28 of 53 by bio on Wed Apr 23 05:42:53 1997:

Strangers and Paradice is going back to the balack and white format in issue
#6. Creator Terry Moore states, "Black and white is more truthful to the mood
I'm trying to achieve in the story. I don't think color moved me any closer
to what my vision of the material is... Books like Sin City and Bone achieve
their creators' visions in black and white, and my sentiments are just closer
to those than to color for the sake of color." 


#29 of 53 by biohazar on Thu Apr 24 03:55:44 1997:

I'm glad their making this change. It just wasn't the same. I wouldn't mind
that much if the could have only found a good colorist... The colors were too
neon and not realistic. If they only toned it down, added more gradents,
lighting effects, textures, it could have looked better. 
   I also REALLY like Sin City and Bone. I would like to see how Disney
adventures colors Bone though. They are working on reprinting issue #2 in
color through their little digest.


#30 of 53 by otaking on Sat Apr 26 12:16:56 1997:

Are you responding to yourself David?

I'm glad that Terry Moore chose to return to a B&W comic, but I liked having
an idea of how they look in color. Besides, with the continuous announcments
of new comic-based action figures, shouldn't we have a color guide of sorts
for SIP action figures? (I can dream, can't I?)


#31 of 53 by biohazar on Mon Apr 28 07:07:21 1997:

I like the way you dream, but SiP action figures will only be in your dream...
but SiP scultures are more posible. I would like a sculture with all three
of the characters in the buuny outfits with the "cute one" sigh...


#32 of 53 by mziemba on Thu May 8 10:58:08 1997:

Well, _Strangers In Paradise_ is the series that got me back into comics. 
I love good stories, and Terry Moore spins 'em.  The art's pretty nice, too!
 
I liked the series in B&W, but I also enjoyed seeing it move into color.  I
guess rumor has it that it's going back to B&W.  Either way...
 
I didn't mind the jump in the storyline from Abstract to Image.  I have faith
in Terry Moore's storytelling.  I'm happy to see where he goes with it.


#33 of 53 by otaking on Mon May 12 11:48:04 1997:

Strangely enough, Image put out yet another varient cover for SiP V.3 #1.
This one has Francine and Katchoo tied up and surrounded by villains out
of WildC.A.T.S. (I can't remember what they're called.) The cover is a
good laugh, making fun of SiP's entry to Image and costs $6 at Vault of
Midnight.


#34 of 53 by biohazar on Fri May 16 07:36:24 1997:

Well I just read the latest SiP (what are we at now?) and I noticed the change
to B&W. Frankly, even though I was excited when I first heard they were making
the changewhen I saw it I wasn't so happy. Now I'm not sure wiethre this is
because I like it in color or if was the art (when drawing for color you draw
it diffently then if it was just B&W... Terry might have drawn this issue
thinking that it was going to be in color then changed his mind). Frankly I'd
like to conitue seeing it color. I don't think it was the problem wit the
color, but the colorist.I don't think Terry wants to look any more citing that
he was fustrated with getting it right.
   Aother thing I'd like to point out is the two text pages in the middle.
I understand text pages... Iloved it in Watchmen and in previous SiP... but
this didn't feel like a real need for it. Like this could have been drawn in
those two pages.I don't think it would mad a difference for anyway presented
although seeing the expersions on their faces would have been nice.
   Over all al great issue. I still am not sure if I like this road twards
the break up though... you feel it coming.


#35 of 53 by mziemba on Tue May 20 16:46:48 1997:

I liked the return to B&W.  I see more facial expression, now, which was one
of Terry's strengths.
 
Did anyone notice that April was skipped going from issue #5 to issue #6? 
#5 was March, and #6 was May.  I think Terry was interested in getting things
caught up.  Perhaps color was slowing things down a bit much.




#36 of 53 by mziemba on Thu May 29 15:23:21 1997:

Well, although I wasn't planning on it, because I'm on a subscription list
for it, I wound up with a copy of the first issue of the re-issue series. 
The logo is done in metalic gold to differentiate it from the original issues.
I enjoyed beginning to re-read the story, and the notes at the end were
interesting.  I presume Terry's planning to include some extra notes at the
end of each issue.


#37 of 53 by biohazar on Sat Jun 14 11:31:51 1997:

Quote CSN, "Strangers In Paradise, which joined the Homage Comic line last
fall, is going its own way once again beginning in September. "It's been an
honor to be a part of the Homage group," Terry Moore said. "There is no
question that Strangers in Paradise has benefited from the association. But
I designed SiP to be my sole means of creative output, and right from the
beginning I knew I would self-publish. Fortunately, things worked out well
for me, despite the industry challenge." Jim Lee added, "I believe Terry
helped us as much as we helped Terry. But ultimately, what the Homage Comics
line is all about is creators determining the futures of their own books, and
Terry has made the decision that only he can make. We all wish him the best,
and I know that I'll keep reading SiP as long as he produces it." The last
Homage issue is Stranger in Paradise #8, an August release; there will also
be a commemorative poster the same month."


#38 of 53 by mziemba on Sat Jun 14 17:25:13 1997:

What's CSN?


#39 of 53 by bruin on Sat Jun 14 20:54:22 1997:

RE #39 Could it be Crosby Stills & Nash?


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