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This item is to enthuse about the English composer Ralph Vaughan Williams. Some basics: 1. His last name is Vaughan Williams. Two names, no hyphen. You will find him under the letter "V" in good CD shops. If you have kids in school band programs you might be familiar with some of his band music. (All Brit composers were expected to produce a certain amount of band music. I do not question, I merely report.) If so, you might've seen his name listed as "R.V. Williams" on the school band concert programs. Don't believe it. 2. His first name is pronounced "Ralph." His friends and family called him "Rafe," but he prefered to be called "Ralph" by everyone else. Nevertheless, you will hear radio announcers and others refer to him as "Rafe" Vaughan Williams. They don't know any better, but if you don't want to sound lowbrow to them you might want to say "Rafe," too, or else just say "Vaughan Williams" and avoid his first name altogether. 3. People call him "RVW" for short. There is a Vaughan Williams Society web site at http://www.rvwsociety.com/ 4. Another place you might've heard his music is in church, if you're Protestant. He wrote many hymns and anthems that are sung to this day. 5. He and his friend Gustav Holst (the "Planets" guy) spent a few years roaming the countryside collecting folksongs. They were the British counterparts of Bartok and Kodaly in that respect. Same time-frame, too. Much of RVW's music after that was infused with English folksong. You might've heard his famous arrangement of Greensleeves. 6. His dates are 1872 - 1958. He wrote nine symphonies, the first when he was in his thirties, the last when he was in his eighties. 7. His grandmother taught him to read out of the same book with which she had taught her younger brother, Charles Darwin. To RVW, Darwin was "Great-uncle Charles." Other family trivia: RVW was descended from Josiah Wedgwood, if you're into that white-on-blue china stuff. (Note correct spelling, btw.) 8. He looked like a big tweedy gentleman-farmer. Photographers and sculptors loved him. See http://www.cs.qub.ac.uk/~J.Collis/gifs/rvw+cat.jpg
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I believe the traditional radio announcer pronunciation of RVW's first name goes back to the mournful little speech Sir Adrian Boult recorded on the first LP, on the Everest label, of RVW's 9th Symphony. It began, "We had hoped that our beloved friend, Rafe Vaughan Williams, would have been with us here in the studio for the recording of his last symphony, but his death took place just seven hours before we began our work on it."
Beg pardon, but I think you're mistaken about point 2. "Ralph's name was pronounced Rafe, any other pronunciation used to infuriate him." - _R.V.W.: A Biography of Ralph Vaughan Williams_ by Ursula Vaughan Williams (OUP, 1964), prefatory note, p. [xv]. If you have any solid evidence trumping the authoritative biography by his widow, please share it. (It may be necessary to point out to American readers that there is nothing unusual or affected about the pronunciation "Rafe" - it is, I understand, the usual pronunciation of "Ralph" in Britain, though there are exceptions.) But whatever his name, I love his music, and classify him among my half- dozen favorite composers of the first half of the 20th century. A few observations of my own: 1) Despite its occasional startling resemblance to French Impressionism, his music sounds to me quintessentially English, even more so than Elgar's. Elgar rose to facile patriotism and descended to pathos; RVW did neither, and is utterly self-contained without being self-absorbed. This English quality comes through even in works with no connection with folk music, and even in works expressly non-English in inspiration, such as the incidental music to Aristophanes' The Wasps. 2) Though born in a Cotswolds village, he was raised near London and always considered himself a Londoner, even during the many years he spent living in an exurban town so that his invalid first wife could have a home without stairs. 3) Of his nine symphonies, I have always found the Ninth to be quite opaque, but except for the Fourth, which is a bit too prickly to take to heart, I am very fond of the others. The Third, Fifth, and Seventh seem to me to be successive attempts to do approximately the same thing, each time better than before (which is not meant as a criticism of the Third); the Sixth achieves the same utterly strange viciousness as the Fourth without the prickliness, and is even more remarkably original; and I must say a word in favor of the First, the "Sea Symphony". This one of the few choral works in my pantheon of masterpieces. Based on poems of Whitman (and sounding utterly English, nevertheless), it remarkably manages to make the heavy-footed, clunky Whitman sound lyrical, especially in the slow movement. 4) If you want a work that sounds like the Fourth and Fifth Symphonies at once, try "Job". 5) Some composers put their work down and leave it. RVW was a compulsive reviser. I have a recording of the Sixth Symphony with two versions of one movement, the revised version written after the original was recorded; and a recording was recently made, the first ever, of the original version of the Second Symphony, the "London". It's somewhat more expansive than the revised version, and considering how quick the revised version is to jump from theme to theme, section to section, I can't help but prefer the original in places. 6) The best RVW concert I ever attended was at the Barbican in London in 1995 (the same trip at which I attended the Steeleye Span reunion concert). The Bournemouth Symphony was performing all nine symphonies in a series; the concert I attended had the two vocal symphonies, numbers 1 and 7. Magnificent and moving. I've never heard these works live on any other occasion. Come to think of it, the only other occasion I'm sure I've heard any of his music live was one performance of the Tuba Concerto. Thank the Lord for records, on which he is very well served.
Ah, a fellow RVW aficionado! My recollection that RVW himself preferred strangers to call him "Ralph" instead of "Rafe" is from the Michael Kennedy bio, which I haven't seen in at least twenty years so who knows? It made a kind of sense, barely, but of course Ursula's book rules. My take on the symphonies, fwiw: 1. The Sea Symphony has never appealed to me as much as the others. It's a mighty choral work in its own right, but it's young RVW before he found his voice. 2. The London Symphony comes closer. The business about emerging from the fog and then receding back into it is nice, and the second movement is a wonderfully moody nocturne. And of course everyone loves the orchestral imitation of a harmonica in the third movement. 3. The Pastoral is my favorite. (It's also RVW's third "vocal" symphony if you count the soprano solo in the last movement.) It is a magical piece of work for me and for lots of others, but I think its appeal is limited. The critic who said it reminded him of a cow looking over a fence probably expressed the majority opinion: this is not exactly a pulse-pounding excitement. 4. Very prickly, yes, but better than anything that followed it, in my opinion. The second movement might be the greatest single orchestral movement he ever wrote. The finale, with that fugal epilog, is actually frightening. One of the RVW symphonies I've heard performed live. I was terrified that someone might start clapping during the long pause before that final angry staccato chord, but no one did. 5. An absolutely beautiful piece of music. The scherzo is a small masterpiece in itself. The slow movement is one of those enthralled, suspended-in-time pieces. A better use of his Pilgrim's Progess music that the opera itself, imho. 6. The flowering of RVW's late style, for which I have the sort of exasperated affection we have for our parents when they get old and cranky. But it's a masterpiece nevertheless. It is the most Mahlerian or Shostakovichoid of his symphonies. A real drama is played out. The first movement is the gem -- better than the famous pianissimo last movement, imho. The coughing and rustling of the audience during the finale in the one live performance I attended was excruciating. Stick with the CD, and listen to it on headphones. 7. Really just a suite of music from his soundtrack to Scott of the Antarctic. More late-period music, not a big favorite of mine. The stupendous fortissimo organ passage in the glacier movement is neat-o, though. My old Boult/London LP has John Gielgud reading aloud the passages from Shelley, the Bible, Donne, Scott's journals, that RVW placed at the head of each movement in the score. This practice was apparently not what RVW intended, and was discontinued thereafter. 8. I absolutely love this little symphony. I have nothing to base this opinion on, but I suspect that in it RVW was answering Beethoven's 8th. It's quirky, a little silly, "unbuttoned" as Beethoven said of his own 8th. Like Beethoven's 8th, it's relatively short in duration: it fits on one side of an LP. Anyway, I love it. You smile all the way through it. It's got to be the most approachable and listenable of his symphonies, but not very characteristic and for that reason maybe not the best introduction to his music. 9. One last tremendous effort by an old man, and the strain shows. But that's part of the music's appeal, I think. The image of old RVW ascending to heaven on glittering clouds of glory at the very end is unmistakeable, but surely not intended by RVW hiself. A very approximate list of my favorites in descending order might look like: 3, 5, 4, 6, 8, 2, 7, 9, 1. 4 and 5 are tied, really. 8 would be higher, but it's so jokey and slight.
Along with Holst and Percy Granger (yeah, I know he's Aussie, but... ;-) Vaughn Williams makes up the basic "British" repertoire for band music. "Been there, done that!" many times. :-)
Kevin: Hey, RVW's "English Folk Song Suite" (for band) is incredibly catchy! So are Holst's two Suites for band. Michael: If you're referring to Kennedy's _The Works of Ralph Vaughan Williams_, it's better described as a discussion of his music than a biography, though it has biographical material in it. I browsed through the 1980 edition - the section on RVW's personal life, and Kennedy's account of his own friendship with RVW - and found at a glance nothing about the pronunciation of his name. A few more comments on the symphonies: The Sea Symphony (which isn't really any more of a symphony than Sibelius's Kullervo is) I agree doesn't sound very characteristic of the composer's later developed style - though in some places it does. I don't hold that against it. I really ought to get to know the Pastoral better. I don't have a CD of it, which is one barrier. I think it was Constant Lambert (or possibly Elizabeth Maconchy) who came up with the "cow looking over a gate" line, to which I reply, after Churchill, "Some cow! Some gate!" Despite its reputation, the Pastoral is not an eventless quiet musing, but a work of strength and passion. The Fifth is the symphony I've most closely studied, partly in connection with a marvelous concert performance of it, by the late San Jose Symphony of all people, that I once heard. (I'd forgotten about that when I last wrote.) I'm impressed with the careful detail work that puts it together, from the shaping of the harmony in the opening theme on. I'm sure this applies equally well to all his work. I'd guess that the Sixth requires a riveting performance of this (properly) riveting music. After the implacability of what comes before, the finale should be sat through in stunned silence! I consider the Antartica much superior to the reputation it gets from its origin. Lots of works that aren't film music get described as sounding as if they were (it's a favorite comment of Shostakovich- bashers), and the Antartica would probably be susceptible to such remarks even if it didn't have a film-music origin. But the very fact that the comment is made in such a loose way suggests it's over-used. If one didn't know the work's origins, would it be a fair criticism? Not in some other cases, and not I think here. You're quite right, to my understanding, that the inscriptions should not be recited. They're printed in the score; they should be printed in program notes and liner notes. That's all. I have the later Boult recording on LP (London), which does this. If you like the fortissimo organ passage in this work, you should definitely get "Job" if you don't have it. Yes, the Eighth is great fun. The sound is entirely different, but the spirit reminds me of some of Malcolm Arnold's earlier works (before he tried to recast himself as Hamlet).
RVW's Toccata Marziale is my favorite band piece of his. I think a new recording of it by a British band was released within the past decade. Worth having. Hammersmith is my favorite band work by Holst. He arranged it for orchestra and it isn't nearly as good in that version. My favorite Holst work, to get this free-associating over with, is Egdon Heath. Highest, highest recommendation. I don't think the Antarctica Symphony sounds like movie music at all, even though it is. It's not *bad* music, I'm just not a huge fan it. It's late-late Vaughan Williams, when he basically let the tritone take over his imagination. (More free-associating: when I was an impressionable teenager I saw Scott of the Antarctic on TV and went out and bought an electric blanket the next day. Hand on my heart.) I've been a fan of "Job" for 40 years. The "ooga-booga!" Satan parts require a suspension of disbelief, at least for me, but the rest of it is wonderful. Nobody's mentioned the Tallis Fantasia yet. Is there a more breathtaking piece of music?
Or "The Lark Ascending". There's gorgeous music for you, and it's basically quiet and contemplative, like the Pastoral Symphony is wrongly supposed to be. The Radio 3 page of "Discovery" programs <http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/classical/discover.shtml> has a particularly good program on the Tallis Fantasia, partly because it's comparative. They play the original Tallis hymn, which I'd wanted to hear for years but never got a chance. They analyze the richness of the opening chord as being caused by its being a widely-spaced chord played mostly on open strings, and compare it to the openings of Hindemith's "Mathis der Maler" and Ives' "The Unanswered Question," which are similar, have much the same effect (especially the Hindemith), and whose composers were more explicit about the emotional connotation they were after than RVW was. A while ago I went looking for videos of films he'd scored. Found "49th Parallel" and watched that.
That's a great web site. Thanks for entering the url. I very much enjoyed the Tallis Fantasia segment, even though the narrator/writer gets a little carried away. (Who can blame him?)
The programs on that BBC web site (which I discovered through Ken
Josenhans recommending their radio link) are of variable quality, but
mostly pretty helpful. I haven't listed to the one for the RVW 5th
Symphony yet, nor (I must confess) have I heard all of the program for
the Tallis Fantasia - ran out of time while I was listening to it.
But I did listen to two Tchaikovsky programs in full (my brother is a
big Tchaikovsky fan, as so many tyros in the classical field are, and I
wanted to preview them before recommending this to him), and found the
program on "Romeo and Juliet" rather wayward (presenting the piece very
much out of chronological order, and imposing a distinctly eccentric
conception of its construction), but the one on the 4th Symphony was
excellent.
Coming back to RVW, what do you think of his symphonies _as_
symphonies? The strict 19th century conception of a symphony as a work
in sonata form had pretty much gone by the wayside by his time, but
there's still a sense in which some works are more symphonic than
others. (See Robert Simpson's essay in volume 2 of the Penguin
Symphony.) I get the impression that the Sea and London Symphonies, at
least, are really more multi-movement tone poems than real symphonies,
and had the composer died after them, he wouldn't be thought of today
as a symphonist at all. (Remember that he didn't number the works
until years later, retroactively, and that many other composers have
used the word "symphony" to describe works not subsequently thought of
as symphonies at all - Sibelius's Kullervo, Goldmark's Rustic Wedding,
Felicien David's extravaganzas, etc.)
Nevertheless I heard them as works of symphonic heft, the way that La
Mer is a work of symphonic heft. And there's no question in my mind
that the central trilogy, numbers 4-6, are not only real symphonies,
but that they're important symphonies and, as a group, one of the most
outstanding sequences ever written, better _as a sequence_ than
Shostakovich's war symphonies, numbers 7-9.
("Better than Shostakovich" is very high praise from me.)
"Symphonic heft" just about says it all. If that phrase doesn't include the symphonic logic and economy, and the thematic and motivic development, that characterized symphonies once upon a time, you can add those qualities as well. RVW's first movements sound like first movements and his finales sound like finales, and there's usually the pair of fast-slow (5 & 8) or slow- fast (1, 2, 3, 4, 6 & 9) middle movements. Several of the symphonies are cyclic in nature, with one or two themes holding the whole thing together; all of them have a kind of symphonic unity -- a single mood or attitude or sound-world is maintained throughout the symphony that is different from the composer's other symphonies. But why RVW's 4th sounds like a symphony to me, but Debussy's La Mer or Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra don't, is a mystery. I'm sure it's all very arbitrary, and in any case a just matter of taste or semantics.
It just occurred to me: If you hear some really bad Vaughan Williams music, or some good music very badly played, does it make you want to ralph or want to rafe? ;-)
Rafe, apparently.
Is there any bad RVW? Lots of great composers wrote some really bad music - Shostakovich certainly, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky, even Schubert - but I can't recall any from RVW. Above, I was speaking of two different levels of approach towards the ideal symphony. By "symphonic heft" I mean weight, seriousness, a certain degree of complexity, a lack of just making pleasant sounds for the heck of it (not that there's anything wrong with that). RVW's Sea and London have that, so to my ears does La Mer; Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra I'm not so sure of. But the "true symphony," the level which RVW's 4-6 attain but (to my ears) the earlier works do not, has a concision and an inter-knit logic that goes beyond the previous virtues. The London Symphony is very attractive and very well-constructed, but it has an episodic nature and not so much of the inter-knit construction. By that I mean things like the repeated interweaving of a motive or interval throughout the work. If the London does that, it doesn't so much sound like it does it.
There are some famous are-they-or-aren't-they compositions. Sibelius's 7th, for example, is nothing if not hefty, but I don't think it's even as much of a symphony as, say, La Mer. Das Lied von der Erde was in fact Mahler's 9th symphony, until he decided to try and cheat fate by calling it something else. I guess we're pretty much left with whatever the composer chose to leave us with. I sometimes find it hard to classify music of a composer I have as much affection for as I do for RVW as "good" or "bad." I find myself listening to some pieces frequently (3rd Symphony, Tallis Fantasia, Job, Mass in G minor, An Oxford Elegy, Flos Campi) and others hardly ever (7th Symphony, Hodie, On Wenlock Edge, English Folk Song Suite). I'll rave about the former and try and say something nice about the latter. That's really the best I can do.
In a letter to the October "Journal of the RVW Society," Charles Long offers a possibly revisionist version of the "cow looking over a gate" quip: Doubtless every single member of the RVW Society is wearily familiar with the seemingly disparaging comment by Philip Heseltine (aka Peter Warlock) about 'a cow looking over a gate' in relation to Vaughan Williams's A Pastoral Symphony (June 2002 RVW Journal, page 6). But how many are aware of the context in which that alleged remark was made? The quotation comes, in fact, from Cecil Gray's 'Peter Warlock: A Memoir of Philip Heseltine' published in 1934. In full, the relevant passage runs as follows: 'after a performance of V.W.'s Pastoral Symphony he [Heseltine] exclaimed, "A truly splendid work!" and then, with a smile, "You know I've only one thing to say against this composer's music: it is all just a little too much like a cow looking over a gate. None the less he is a very great composer and the more I hear the more I admire him."'
The letters column also has this sad exchange:
Private Eye
The following appeared in Private Eye.
How much truth is in this?!
Robert Rush
Music & Musicians
Last week's Classical Brit Awards were the tacky shambles everyone has
come to expect as honoured 'guests' paid 250 a head to watch not
terribly distinguished instrumentalists mime their own records.
A fine new feature this year was to have well known authorities on
classical music like, er, Mohamed Fayed, introduce the turns. The
Albert Hall erupted into guffaws when Fayed told the audience that
Russell Watson was, in his fuggin' opinion, a superior voice to
Pavarotti.
But the evening sank to an all-time low with disgraceful humiliating
treatment meted out to Ursula Vaughan Williams, widow of the great
composer Ralph. Mrs Vaughan Williams is now in her 90s and frail, but
she remains an icon of the music world and the administration of the
Brit Awards had invited her to come on to the platform to receive the
prize for the Best Orchestral Disc, which went to a Chandos recording
of her husband's 2nd Symphony.
The disc's conductor, Richard Hickox, was abroad, so Ursula would be
accepting it on his behalf; and when the moment came she duly shuffled
(with great effort) up onto the stage - only to find herself marooned
in front of several thousand people, unacknowledged and ignored, while
the awards anchorwomen (who clearly had no idea who Mrs VW was, and
probably wasn t too sure about Mr VW either) pressed onto the next item.
It was horribly embarrassing and was aggravated when the stage staff
tried to push poor Ursula out of the public eye and down the backstage
steps: a manoeuvre her 92-year-old legs could not and would not
accomplish.
For the sake of the TV coverage the incident was patched over. But for
those who were there and saw it, it was yet another indictment on the
Brit Awards charge sheet.
Editor's reply to Robert Rush
Thank you for your letter of 7 June enclosing the article from Private
Eye about the Brit Awards. I was grateful to you for sending this to me
as I had not seen it. All the details in the article are correct. I
know this because it was I who accompanied Ursula up all those steps on
to the stage, only to have to turn round and come all the way back
again. This was deeply embarrassing for both of us. Ursula was more
forgiving than I afterwards, as she was presented with a bunch of
flowers by the organisers. The Brit Awards people were suitably
apologetic but it was a deeply humiliating experience.
Stephen Connock
I've been thinking about the numbering and naming of RVW's symphonies. His earliest symphonies originally came out with no numbers, just names, like this: A Sea Symphony (1909) A London Symphony (1913) A Pastoral Symphony (1921) I particularly like the unpretentiousness of the indefinite article on each of these: so much less declamatory than THE Eroica or THE Great C Major, and it fits with the unpretentiousness of the music. Due partly to the titles, and partly to the relative lack of traditional symphonic construction in these works, if VW had left it at that, he might have gone down in musical history along with Felicien David and Karl Goldmark, composers who wrote works they called symphonies but who aren't generally thought of as symphonists. But then he wrote a series of works with very tight, truly symphonic construction, without numbers and also without titles: Symphony in F Minor (1934) Symphony in D Major (1943) Symphony in E Minor (1947) Then came: Sinfonia Antartica (1952) And then he wrote another symphony in D (minor, this time), and I guess the possibility of confusion was what caused him to give it a number and retroactively number its predecessors: Symphony No. 8 in D Minor (1955) Symphony No. 9 in E Minor (1957) A lot of commposers in this situation might have left the Sea Symphony, or even all of the first three, out of the numbering system (cf Tchaikovsky's unnumbered Manfred Symphony among many others). But now they're all known by the numbers as much as by anything else. But it occurred to me, in a whimsical mood, to try to name the others. The first three all had programs, in the sense that there was a clear concrete image or set of extramusical images each was trying to convey. It seemed, and still seems, to many people that Nos. 4-6 are equally clear in their imagery. The composer denied any such messages, but if he hadn't denied it, we might have had these entirely apt titles, each based on the forward-looking imagery that many critics have claimed for them: A War Symphony (1934) A Peace Symphony (1943) A Nuclear Holocaust Symphony (1947) Rename the next one in the same format: An Antarctic Symphony (1952) And we're stuck with the last two, which don't have the same kind of extramusical connotations, but still have distinct characters. With some diffidence, I'd name them: A Comic Symphony (1955) A Cryptic Symphony (1957) I can't imagine doing such a thing for many other composers. RVW's symphonies are more individually distinct from each other than the symphonies of any other composer I can think of. He's the anti- Bruckner.
Nice! The 9th is said to have originated in music about the Salisbury Plain, Stonehenge, and possibly Hardy's Tess of the d'Urbervilles. You could call it "A Stonehenge Symphony" or "A Salisbury Symphony." (The jacket illustration for Boult's second recording of the 9th was a painting of Stonehenge.)
I see the Spano/Atlanta recording of the Sea Symphony won some Grammys. Has anybody here heard it?
I haven't, but it's nice to know I'm not the only person who checks the classical Grammys. (The fact that I've never heard of most of the winners in other categories affects my views as well.)
Yes, I have actually heard that recording: I wrote a review of it for WCBN when it came out. It's been a long time since I listened to it, though, so I can't remember the details. I remember feeling that it was a very passionate and competant recording. If anyone's interested I can dig up the review. It's not very in depth, since it was just a brief description for DJs scanning for music to play.
I'd love to read the review.
sorry for the delayed response: college life recently forced me to become busy. I will retrieve the review sometime!
Here is the review. It's nothing in depth, just a brief description so that our DJs have an idea of what to expect if they're unfamiliar with the piece: An excellent recording of a very majestic piece. This symphony is not as pastoral as many of Vaughan Williams's most popular works, like The Lark Ascending or the Tallis Fantasia, though there is a definite folk tune air to many sections of the symphony. This is a regal piece full of power and grandeur. The text is all by Walt Whitman (whose poetry is also featured in RVW's Dona Nobis Pacem). Atlanta does a fine job in its performance, and the Atlanta Chorus is excellent as always, living up to the legacy of the late Robert Shaw. The balance between choir, orchestra and soloists is good. The greatest fault with the recording, and it's hardly fixable, is that it only hints at how magnificent a live performance of this work would be. There are some absolutely gorgeous moments (about 15 min. into the finale especially stood out). The last 5 min. of the symphony are trascendent, sailing slowly off into the infinite, or ascending into heaven if you prefer. If you're wary of the Telarc label because of their mediocre jazz releases, don't let that scare you off: their classical releases are generally quite reputable.
Very nice review. I came *that* close to buying the CD the other day.
I am sitting here, reeling in mild astonishment as I listen, once again, to the allegretto movement of the Second Symphony by the Portuguese composer Joly Braga Santos (who should be filed under S, but the record company [Marco Polo] confuses Portuguese with Spanish and tries to put him under B). I swear, if somebody'd played this for me without identification, I would have insisted that it was a misplaced piece by Vaughan Williams. The sound-world is uncanny: much of the orchestration is very like him, and there is a phrase in the main theme (5th-6th bars) that is the absolute essence of his melodic style. Mix in a crescendo straight out of Carl Nielsen (at 5 minutes in), and that's the movement. I'd read that this composer resembles VW, but the rest of the symphony seemed to me to do so only in a general way: Santos favors a loose but cogent construction and a colorful conservative modern orchestration, both of which he shares with VW, but I'm not otherwise specifically reminded of him. But even just on the basis of this one work, I have to say we have a winner of a composer here. I shall be looking for more by him. This work was written in 1948, about the time pundits were declaring the symphony dead (for the second or third time). A lot they knew.
Also in RVW news: I shall be using the 3rd movement of Gordon Jacob's orchestration of the "English Folk Song Suite" in a lecture on music and Tolkien, as a demonstration of what the author might have thought an orchestrated version of hobbit folk music for a film should have sounded like (in contrast to the pseudo-Celtic stuff in Jackson's "Fellowship of the Ring", which would have made Tolkien's ears steam).
Cool! Are you going to be playing the Flanders & Swan songs? (I think it was them. I have an old LP around somewhere. I never liked them much.) I always thought Holst's Planets would make good LotR music. Interludes, if not background. Mars is Mordor; Venus is that nice forest where they rest between battles; Mercury is the little stream that sings a song; Jupiter is Bilbo's eleventy-first birthday party; Saturn is the Grey Havens; Uranus is Treebeard and the Ents trashing Isengard; Neptune is the scene in Bombadil's house where he tells the hobbits about the origin of te universe. If it's RVW you want, much of the music in Job would do, too.
Well, I'm trying to avoid giving a paper on "What I think would make good LotR music," though I am indulging far enough to discuss Elgar (very much personally like Tolkien in many ways: they were both displaced Victorian west-midlands melancholy Catholics with a quiet nationalistic patriotism) and to cite various parts of the Enigma Variations that remind me of certain parts of Tolkien's stories. (Bilbo struggling to stay on top of his barrel in the river is obviously the G.R.S. variation, for instance.) My subjects are: what Tolkien thought Middle-earth music sounded like, and what he would have liked music inspired by his works to sound like. I'm leaving for next year the subject of what music inspired by his works has actually sounded like, and that starts with Swann. I agree that Job and The Planets would work well, but I don't think Tolkien would have liked them much. Besides Elgar, I'm using some of Sibelius's Kalavala works, and the spookier parts of Der Freischutz, as Weber is a composer Tolkien is known to have liked. As for what Tolkien thought the music -should- sound like, I'm convinced that the Ainulindale (the creation of the world from the Silmarillion) is supposed to sound like late Renaissance and high Baroque sacred choral music.
In the current RVW Society Journal, somebody makes the point that loving the Pastoral Symphony is the sign of the true RVW fan. Ahem.
I recently picked up the Boult EMI recording of the Pastoral on CD, so now I have it (and the 5th) to play more easily. I still think the 5th is the greater work, but anyone who thinks the Pastoral is tedious, placid, or eventless certainly hasn't listened to it.
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