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Who are your favorite composers of symphonies? Which symphonies are your favorites? What do you like about them?
30 responses total.
Briefly: -Tshaikovsky (sp) 4th (F minor) -Beethoven 7th (A (minor?)) -Shostakovich 5th (D minor)
Love 'em all. Beethoven's 7th was my favorite symphony in the world for a long time. Probably still is. Who are the great symphonists? Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms, Dvorak, Mahler, Sibelius, Schostakovich. Good but not as consistently great might include Schubert, Schumann, Bruckner, Vaughan Williams. (I'd put Schubert with the "greats" on the strength of his 5th, 8th and 9th symphonies alone, but that's just me.) Who else? Prokofiev? I know I'm leaving some out. Favorite individual symphonies of mine include all 9 of Beethoven's, the 3 Schuberts mentioned above, Brahms' 1st, 3rd and 4th, Dvorak's "New World," Mahler's 6th, Vaughan William's 3rd (the "Pastoral"), Schostakovich's 10th (which might be the greatest symphony of the 20th century, now that all is almost said and done). There's a special place in my heart for certain American symphonies: Barber's 1st, Copland's 3rd, Schuman's 6th, Harris's 3rd, etc. I don't know how good any of them really are, being way too American myself to judge them fairly.
I'm not a big symphony listener these days, but when I was, specific
symphonies of Mozart, Beethoven, Mendelssohn, and Sibelius ranked
highest on my list. Favorites include
Beethoven's 7th
Mozart's 40th
Mendelssohn's "Italian"
Sibelius' 2nd
I am a big fan of Beethovan's 6th (Pastoral). How I discovered it is a good story. I love old movies, and I happened to catch a showing of "Soylent Green" with Charleton Heston and Edward G. Robinson (his final film). Robinson's character decides it's time to die and so he goes to the suicide clinic, and there is the scene where he is looking at a green meadow while the 6th begins playing in the background. Years later, I'm in Liberty Music shopping for cheap CD's and I came across a copy of the 6th by Von Karajan and the Berlin Philharmonic. My mom told me that this was an especially good copy of the 6th, so I bought it. Today it's my favorite Beethovan symphony and I play it on cold nasty days so I can imagine spring in all its splendor. I also love his 9th. I have heard the 7th, but it has nothing on the 6th. It is the perfect symphony.
Associations and memories like those can mean everything. My dad and I used to go fishing, and when we came back to the house he'd make us lunch and put some music on. There was a picture window looking out on the stairs down to the lake, the pine woods, the boat house, the lake itself, and the sky. When I hear Beethoven's 6th, I still think of that, and for a long time Beethoven's 6th was my favorite symphony, too, until I listened to the 7th.
I like a bunch of Beethoven symphonies. I'd have to put the 7th as my favorite. I've heard it a bit more rarely than some others (a *lot* more rarely than the 5th, naturally). Interestingly, a rock version off an early Deep Purple album was my first exposure (and *only* one for many years).
I played the 6th so much that I can identify it hearing just two bars - sometimes just one. I have made the error, however, of identifying Schubert's Unfinished as Beethoven's 6th after just one bar......but I haven't looked at the scores to see if Schubert plagarized that bar.
I like Beethoven's later symphonies... almost every thing after 5.
I've just run across this item and would like to put in a word about Beethoven's symphonies. I've been all over the map with him. His 5th is the work which first sold me on classical music in the first place: I had been wondering what came after the "da-da-da-dum". I was quite blown away by what I heard. Subsequently I decided that the 7th was my favorite Beethoven symphony, then the 3rd, then the 1st (!), then the 3rd. Now I'm listening to the 5th again after a gap of some years, and realizing how good it still is when one comes to it with fresh ears.
The seventh Beethoven symphony is definitely my favorite: the second movement is one of the saddest pieces of music I've ever heard, and I love the finale when the theme is restated on top of the pulsing bass line. (I was going to say "the saddest piece of music" but then I thought of Rachmaninov's second piano concerto...)
My favorite is the Sixth (Pastoral) by Beethovan, followed closely by the Ninth (Choral). I first encountered the 6th in a movie that I happened to be watching called Soylent Green. The scene where Edward G. Robinson goes to the euthanasia center and as he is reclining on a bed, the screen shows a beautiful meadow scene while the first notes of the Pastoral start up. I have always loved that scene. Sometimes in the dead of winter when everything is overgrown with ice and snow and the tempurature is hovering in the single digits, I'll dig the Pastoral out and play it as loud as I can drenching myself in the music, hoping somehow that the notes will melt the winter away and let the spring come out in all it's verdant splendor. The ninth is a wonderful piece of music, especially the last movement. Incidentally, as I was watching the lightning display to the southwest, I was replaying the storm movement of the 6th in my head. You know, for being a deaf guy, Beethovan sure could capture the essesnce of life in his music.
Which Beethovan symphony is it that has a one note movement?
The 2nd movement of th 7th symphony is probably referred to as a one-note movement, though it really isn't. Just a guess.
I think Michael Delizia is right: the second movement of Beethoven's 7th begins with the accompaniment (to the eventual theme) alone, with several repetitions of the same note. (Sibelius's 2nd has an actual theme, on the oboe in the 3d movement as I recall, which begins with 10 or 11 repetitions of the same note.) Jonathan Oddie writes that this Beethoven movement is one of the saddest pieces he's ever heard. I agree, so much so that the first time I heard the 7th, I wondered if the record had been mislabled and if perhaps I was hearing the famous Funeral March from the Eroica (which at that time I'd never heard) instead. Dr Teeth, I wonder if your opinion of the Pastorale would differ if you'd first heard it in _Fantasia_ instead of _Soylent Green_. <g>
I don't think so.
The oboe theme referred to in #14 is the pastoral
interlude ("trio section" I guess) in the scurrying
third-movement scherzo of Sibelius' 2nd. It starts
with the same note repeated nine times. The king of
"one-note" symphonists has to be Schubert. Listen
to the opening theme (after the introduction) of the
first movement of the "Great" C major symphony, or
the quiet second theme in the last movement. This
was a quirk of Schubert's, though, not limited to
his symphony.
And then there's the One Note Samba by Antonio Carlos Jobim...
I note that we've left out Schumann. He wrote only four symphonies, but each one is a gem. The "Rhenish" (#3) is probably the most famous and frequently performed, but I love the 2nd best. Any other Schumann fans here?
I'm ashamed to admit that I can never keep him and Schubert straight. I _think_ the one I like more is Schubert.
Ah, wait till you start confusing (Robert) Schumann with (William) Schuman, noisy 20th-century American. I'm enough of a Robert Schumann fan that the solemn movement of the Rhenish kept passing through my mind as I visited Cologne Cathedral; but for some reason I hardly know the Second, and my favorite of his symphonies is definitely the Fourth: dark and rumbling. Along with Beethoven, he's my favorite composer for piano: I would much rather listen to Murray Perahia or the late Claudio Arrau play Schumann than almost anybody playing almost anything by Chopin.
Schumann rhymes with "bloom on." Schuman rhymes with "human." I rather like much of Schuman's noise, only he repeats himself instead of sounding like himself, if you know what I mean, so I can't take too much of it in one sitting.
It only rhymes with bloom on in Michigan, where o is pronounced like the a in Bach. Took me a while to figure out what you meant. Mannheim.
I was rhyming Schumann with "bloom on" when I was growing up in Massachusetts, so I don't think it's a Michigan thing. How is the word "on" pronounced elsewhere?
I find I make no distinction in pronouncing Schumann and Schuman. Where am I from? [8^}], though on further trials I find I may shift the emphasis toward the mann in Schumann and toward the Schu in Schuman, probably because mann means something in German.
Since I never heard of Schuman before, I will save myself confusion by rhyming it with "human". I also do not pronounce the "o" in "on" like a German "a".
[Wiliam Schuman, in addition to composing music, was the president of the Juilliard School in NYC for many years, and went on to be the first president of Lincoln Center. Juilliard flourished under him, but his tenure at Lincoln center was so problem-filled that "To err is Schuman" became a catch phrase in the press. Does that help?]
William Schuman's 3rd symphony is very popular and much performed and recorded. His 6th is his best, in my opinion.
On in Boston had the same vowel as God, hot, dog, etc. New Yorkers used two different vowels for hot and dog (hat dawg). Boston o is like London o, Michigan o is like the a in Bach or father.
That brings up again the observation that no word rhymes with dog - if you are from New York. I say "dawg", but not fawg, hawg. So, what o is that in Boston (which I say Bawstun)...aha! Boston at least alliterates with my dog.
Re 25: no. But I really don't follow things like that.
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