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Grex Cflirt Item 42: this thought is for both sexes..
Entered by coolguy on Sun Sep 22 04:09:53 UTC 2002:

hey both guys n glas check this out.................
ok i want responses from both sexes ..the q goes like this
ARE WOMEN'S PASSION FOR SEX GREATER THAN MEN'S? If so how many times
4/5/10?????????????
also ther goes a contradictiory saying like this..
MEN LOVE 'COZ THEY WANT 2 HAVE SEX..
BUT WOMEN HAVE SEX COZ THEY WANNA LOVE...
ok shoot ur responses

79 responses total.



#1 of 79 by michaela on Sun Sep 22 06:10:45 2002:

<after interpreting the pseudo-English in #0>

It think it's pretty equal, though women are trained that it's Not Cool to
reveal when you're horny.  So, it always seems like women are rarely in the
mood, whereas my experience shows we get just as horny just as often.  Guys
just tend to be more verbose about it.

Not all women have sex to get love.  Not all guys fall in love just for the
sex.


#2 of 79 by lelande on Sun Sep 22 15:31:13 2002:

i prefer women hit on me than i hit on women.

can't always get whatcha want.


#3 of 79 by fireball on Mon Sep 23 02:48:39 2002:

Generally, I think sex and love are confused entirely too often, at least in
American culture (and probably others) but that's really a seperate rant.

In general, I would suspect that guys and girls 'want it' about the same. 
THere are, of course, exceptions to be made, however, on both sides of the
fence.  Questions/statements such as this tend to lead to very iffy thinking,
to my mind...so I don't ponder it terribly often :)


#4 of 79 by senna on Mon Sep 23 03:21:59 2002:

I prefer to think that women have a better sense of appropriateness than guys.
One coworker I have, for example, will discuss his desire for sex in the
middle of a discussion of insurance issues, with mixed company that couldn't
possibly care.  I'm sure I work with women who have the same desire at the
same times, but most of them don't particularly want to tell *me* about it.


#5 of 79 by orinoco on Mon Sep 23 03:23:47 2002:

re #1:

It seems like there's a biological difference in there somewhere.  It's
not that men are hornier than women.  It's that men tend to stop feeling
horny for a while when they get off, and women don't necessarily.  A lot
of men I know treat sex like coffee or aspirin -- if you're tired you
drink coffee, if you've got a headache you take an aspirin, and if you're
turned on you have sex -- it's the obvious reaction.  It's like horniness
is a signal that you _should_ have sex, and then you'll feel better.  For
most women, horniness seems to be more of a signal that you _could_ have
sex.  


#6 of 79 by michaela on Mon Sep 23 05:42:12 2002:

Dan put it a hell of a lot better than I did.  THANK YOU for understanding
that we don't stop feeling horny once we get off.  A woman's desire builds
and builds and builds with each orgasm, so you just sorta have to wait for
it to fade.  That's what I've been trying to make guys understand ever since
I started receiving the question, "Why don't you masturbate when you're
horny?"


#7 of 79 by jaklumen on Mon Sep 23 05:59:05 2002:

Ah, the light bulb clicks on.  Color me silly, but certain 
things make more sense now, like a woman's need to "come down" 
after sex, i.e. afterplay (so you don't have to *wait* for it 
to fade necessarily).  More specifically, ejaculation that 
almost invariably accompanies orgasm in men doesn't in women 
(I hear it's a rare thing).  Women can theoretically have 
orgasm to exhaustion.  That accurate?


#8 of 79 by michaela on Mon Sep 23 09:21:33 2002:

Yup, and it's not as great as it sounds.  You start to feel helpless, since
your whole body goes numb and your vision gets blurred, and every nerve is
overstimulated.  It's not a good torture, despite what phenix might think.
;-)


#9 of 79 by jazz on Mon Sep 23 16:02:47 2002:

        You also run into a few differences which may be cultural, or may be
biological, such as the fact that the relationship criteria for men (being
a bit stereotypical) tend to be more immediately visible than those for women,
that affect perception of someone else's horniness.  

        I haven't really figured out why it'd be a useful question to ask,
though, since the difference between individuals of the same sex is clearly
much greater than that between genders.


#10 of 79 by phenix on Mon Sep 23 18:17:20 2002:

rare? wow, i must date special girls or just be that good:)
and it depends on the women sarah so thppppppppt


#11 of 79 by phenix on Mon Sep 23 18:18:45 2002:

as to drive: many women are encourged to supress their drive untill you
have worn out nutcases like alley mcbeal.


#12 of 79 by michaela on Mon Sep 23 18:35:12 2002:

Not all women can have multiples, and not all women have a g-spot.  I can't
remember the figures offhand.  I just thought I'd throw that in.

(Well, I should say, not all women have a g-spot located close enough to the
vaginal wall to gain the effects of stimulation)


#13 of 79 by phenix on Mon Sep 23 19:03:56 2002:

that's what fisting is for


#14 of 79 by michaela on Mon Sep 23 19:37:57 2002:

OW.


#15 of 79 by phenix on Mon Sep 23 19:46:04 2002:

YMMV, but i do not recall "ow' being a recorded response


#16 of 79 by lelande on Mon Sep 23 20:07:53 2002:

some girls have told me otherwise about their orgasm: that it is a build-up
to explosion, which relieves them. and after that's done, they don't want
their genitals being touched anymore, because they're too sensitive in an
unpleasurable way. this is how it is for me... although i, like these girls
i speak of, am able to be assuaged back up to potency.


#17 of 79 by phenix on Mon Sep 23 20:42:48 2002:

once again YMMV
i've know a few with leland's description, but most i have known
seem to just want to keep going, differnt than sarah.
but i'm not a mind reader, so i wouldn't know for sure


#18 of 79 by jmsaul on Mon Sep 23 23:33:16 2002:

It depends on the individual, in my experience.


#19 of 79 by michaela on Tue Sep 24 03:47:58 2002:

I like to keep going...  you're misreading me.  :)

Biologically, it's difficult since the vagina can dry up after an orgasm. 
PLUS, I know many men whose penis becomes sensitive after orgasm, so it's best
to leave it alone for a little while.  Soooooo...it all depends on the person,
the timing, the mood, etc.


#20 of 79 by orinoco on Tue Sep 24 04:47:05 2002:

Well, now that we've all agreed that everyone's milage varies...

I'm wondering now whether there are any cultures where women are considered
to be hornier than men.  That would be a glitch in my theory that there's a
biological difference involved.


#21 of 79 by michaela on Tue Sep 24 05:34:51 2002:

I know that in the Jewish religion, a woman can file for divorce if her man
doesn't satisfy her often enough, but I wouldn't say Jewish women are known
to be hornier than most men.  I just thought I'd throw that in because I've
always thought it was a cool role reversal.  Usually, the man expects his wife
to satisfy him.

(I'm using "usually" in a VERY BROAD sense, so don't get all offended).


#22 of 79 by jaklumen on Tue Sep 24 06:15:26 2002:

No offense taken.  I think it's safe to admit that is rather true.


#23 of 79 by lelande on Tue Sep 24 06:38:22 2002:

20: i don't think there's a glitch in your biological theory, but that's very
frequently how i am about biological theories. the next step is to parse
social contributions from biological, to determine a, uh, continuum of
horniness.


#24 of 79 by orinoco on Tue Sep 24 14:44:30 2002:

Right.  What we really need is some research... for the common good, of
course.  All in the name of science. ;)


#25 of 79 by michaela on Tue Sep 24 20:42:37 2002:

Dan...  I...  forget it.


#26 of 79 by i on Tue Sep 24 23:44:04 2002:

Re: #20
Isn't there a whole advertising campaign aimed at selling Viagra to women
who think (or can be moved into thinking) that their men could really use
some chemical help in the "studly satisfaction provider" dept.?


#27 of 79 by jazz on Wed Sep 25 19:54:50 2002:

        Yes.

        I'm not sure if it's a byproduct of their wanting to associate
something specific - like maintaining an erection - with a vague concept like
"sexual potency", but there are even women who take the drug.


#28 of 79 by orinoco on Wed Sep 25 21:34:20 2002:

(#25:  Oh dear.  I haven't offended, have I?)

The claim is that viagra works for women because it boosts blood flow to the
pelvis, and that's involved in women's sexual response too.  I don't know
enough biology to know if that's a load of bull or not.


#29 of 79 by michaela on Thu Sep 26 02:43:14 2002:

No, you didn't offend.  I was going to volunteer and then changed my mind.
;-)


#30 of 79 by phenix on Thu Sep 26 02:44:42 2002:

whoa. scary mental imaes!
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek


#31 of 79 by michaela on Thu Sep 26 04:40:24 2002:

Thanks.  Is this conf not called cflirt?


#32 of 79 by jaklumen on Thu Sep 26 09:00:30 2002:

Scary?  I dunno.  Interesting, maybe.  *shrug*


#33 of 79 by michaela on Thu Sep 26 14:42:40 2002:

...and for being "scary", I'm getting laid an awful lot more often than 
you, Greg...


#34 of 79 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 26 16:03:15 2002:

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#35 of 79 by jazz on Thu Sep 26 16:36:10 2002:

        Hey, watching someone go down in flames is a part of flirting, too.


#36 of 79 by michaela on Thu Sep 26 16:56:04 2002:

I AM being nice.  :)  I forgot the winky face.  I would hope Greg's known me
long enough to know I don't find him anything more than a scoundrel with some
pretty freakin' high standards.


#37 of 79 by mynxcat on Thu Sep 26 16:56:19 2002:

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#38 of 79 by phenix on Thu Sep 26 18:24:19 2002:

feh. i have high standards. i could be shooping at pihi, huron or commie,
hell, i could raid the virgin vaults, but it's not worth it.
 the reason it was scary was, i don't knoe, but an english riding saddle, 
tinfoil and velcro are involved


#39 of 79 by jmsaul on Thu Sep 26 18:51:10 2002:

Um, how old are you?


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