(flem indicated that he disagreed with some assertions I'd made in
item:40,resp:307.  since it was a generally disagreeable response, I'm
curious about how much of it he disagreed.  comments from the peanut
gallery are also welcomed.)

55 responses total.

eyes open baby:).

(since I scratched it from the other item, here's the response in
question):


(I should pribly keep my mouth shut, but...)

(Greg, while it's admirable that you appreciate a woman with a pretty
face, it disturbs me that you "want a decent vista" when she's "servicing"
you.)

(now, while I can't speak from personal experience, I'm willing to believe
that having the meat ship sailing the northern waters can be one of the
greatest life experiences a man can have.  to each their own, I say.  BUT,
the pleasure of that experience is predicated on the fact that you're NOT
looking into her face.  if your eyes are closed and you're fantasizing,
it's a blowjob.  if you're looking into her face, it becomes a person with
your dick in her mouth, and THAT'S creepy.  one look in her eyes, and the
moment is lost.  you're stuck thinking about her insecurities, her
screwed-up life that led her to that point, etc.  that's what eye contact
is:  an intimate connection at a level that you *don't* want when you're
having the chestnut tree tapped for sap.) 

(you may now return to your HotOrNot item, because you NEED it.)

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(phenix slipped.)

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Ditto. If one sees a blowjob as something to be given by a slut with no
other value in your life, then I suppose keeping your eyes closed would be
essential. However, if it's from someone you care about, how in the world
can eye contact be bad? I can say from experience that eye contact has
never hindered *my* pleasure. If someone is "stuck thinking about her
insecurities, her screwed-up life that led her to that point, etc." then I
think that's a telling statement about the person making that observation. 

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they are like hammers. don't drop them on your toes!

I'm with mynxcat and cyklone.

I'd be tempted to accuse carson of misogyny, were it not for the fact that,
as Cy says, he seems to think so poorly of himself that he believes any woman
who gave him a blowjob must have been screwed up to do it.  Sounds like he
hates himself, and his wang, worse.

What a sad man.

(wow, you guys are *way* too serious!)

(my response above about watching blowjobs is a rip-off of a Joe Rogan
routine. it was mostly intended to poke fun at phenix, but flem seemed
like he had some thoughts about it [and behind every {quality} humor bit,
there's some truth], hence the item.  frankly, I don't have an opinion
about whether I should look or not.) 

(I guess I'll have to mark future attempts at humor with big blinking
signs for the M-Netters.  has cyklone quoted this item over there yet?) ;)

This is Grex, so we tend to assume you people are being painfully earnest,
if clinically damaged.  (See the "Proper Ass Wiping Technique" item in this
conference for evidence why we might assume that.)

We also assume you aren't speaking from personal experience on sexual topics.
(See the "Proper Ass Wiping Technique" item again for reasons we might
assume that.)

;-)

(ew.  point taken.)

(I admit to a certain amount of relief that I won't have to show up on
your doorstep with a female coed and make you watch me watch me engage in
fellatio, just to see if I peek.)  ;)

And to see if I'm a voyeur.

I don't think I've ever made eye contact with the guy.  I usually close my
eyes so I can simply think about what I'm doing.  *Sometimes* I'll peek to
see what his facial expression is, but his eyes are almost always shut.

try it. look up at him and make a growly sound or something, then when he
looks down at you, smile so your teeth are bared. responses may vary.

<smirk>  I've done that.  Fortunately, the response was good, mostly because
he knew I'd never actually bite down.

        I'm with the eye contact camp.  Dunno how I'd react to someone trying
out Lelande's suggestion, but then I think girls who kick bottles for fun are
cute, so your mileage may vary.

kick bottles for milk

what does that mean, kick bottles for fun? 

I would tend to think eye contact is an okay thing for the visually oriented.
Nothing wrong with alternating eyes open and shut, either.

        Some people find satisfaction in breaking small things, preferably
small shiny things that can be played with before breaking.  Glass bottles
fit in that category rather nicely.

        Re #18:  I don't think anyone was suggesting constant eye contact the
whole time ...

        Afterthought:  constant eye contact would be CREEPY.

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for the record, since carson seems curious, any thoughtfulness I may have
implied in my disagreement with his post has been fairly well addressed by
previous comments.  Mainly, that I sometimes like to watch when receiving a
blowjob.  Not always, since I agree that very different experiences result 
from watching vs. not watching, and both experiences are, IMO, worth 
experiencing.  

A couple of other random comments for the record, since I find myself on my 
horse:
  - who says humor and serious discussion are disjunct?
  - I'm a firm believer in the "painfully earnest" school of Grex dialogue, 
    though IMO the painful part is, as it were, in the eye of the beholder.  
  - phenix' opinion loses all kinds of respect from me when he says emma from 
    caoine.org is "only ok".  

i've seen prettier.

clairification, i've shagged prettier.

a bargain at twice the price.

Re #24:  I believe that like I believe that carson gets blowjobs.

(although my friend Jim has declared me "the man most seriously in
need of a blowjob" [don't ask], I have to back Greg up here.  sadly, he
*has* shagged prettier.  I still haven't figured out how he does it, but 
I don't understand the appeal of Extreme Elvis either.)

(I'm quite disappointed that I couldn't taunt phenix with such "locker
room" analogies as "you don't watch the mechanic while you're getting your
oil changed" and "when she's playing Yankee Doodle, keep your eyes off the
macaroni."  perhaps I'll be able to use them some other day when I'm not
defending myself against allegations of misogyny.)

eh-hem, i'd like my mojo back actually.
when i find out who's stolen it i'm going to whip out my goonhand something
fierce

Is that an example of one of your pickup lines?

i don't really have pickup lines.

do you have a pickup truck?

uh, no, no ranger.

        I don't buy it for a minute.

j00've seen my pimp green escourt.

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living in a fast truck...

        Clees thought my truck was manly.  Heh.

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yha, i don't think thats something one dude should say to another do,
um-hum, yha...

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