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Grex Cflirt Item 22: My girl is pregnant with twins and another on the side.(and all are mine)
Entered by manhunt7 on Thu Mar 7 15:48:52 UTC 2002:

Hi my name is jeff and it is self explanitory to my problem.

Yes i still love her. she loves me as well, even though she is a 
lesbian.

71 responses total.



#1 of 71 by jmsaul on Thu Mar 7 15:53:56 2002:

Sounds like she's actually bisexual by any reasonable definition of the term.


#2 of 71 by phenix on Thu Mar 7 16:49:54 2002:

or you got her REALLY drunk with some ruphie help


#3 of 71 by jmsaul on Thu Mar 7 16:51:19 2002:

Twice?  And she still loves him afterward?


#4 of 71 by brighn on Thu Mar 7 16:55:08 2002:

How can she be pregnant with twins and another on the side?
 
And why is the guys being named Jeff self-explanatory to the problem?
 
Sorry, I only offer advice to people who can form a coherent thought.


#5 of 71 by jmsaul on Thu Mar 7 17:04:35 2002:

If we didn't know he was named Jeff, we might not know he was a he?


#6 of 71 by sj2 on Fri Mar 8 09:46:18 2002:

and the problem being?


#7 of 71 by jmsaul on Fri Mar 8 14:54:33 2002:

She has some confusion about her sexual identity.


#8 of 71 by jazz on Fri Mar 8 15:33:59 2002:

        I'm with Paul, I didn't respond (initially) because there's too little
information presented, and what's there isn't presented well enough to be sure
of it.


#9 of 71 by michaela on Fri Mar 8 18:35:01 2002:

I think he means his girl is pregnant with twins and another girl (on the
side) is pregnant.


#10 of 71 by jazz on Fri Mar 8 23:23:45 2002:

        I was guessing pregnant with twins, and one already delivered.


#11 of 71 by phenix on Fri Mar 8 23:25:27 2002:

that'd be really tricky


#12 of 71 by jazz on Sat Mar 9 05:50:57 2002:

        Not if it wasn't one of the twins, but a seperate birth.


#13 of 71 by lelande on Fri Mar 15 23:53:28 2002:

i imagined the lesbian prego with twins and prego with another little bubby
in one of her kidneys or something. it probably makes it hard to stand up
straight.


#14 of 71 by mynxcat on Fri Apr 26 19:32:12 2002:

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#15 of 71 by jazz on Sat Apr 27 00:32:23 2002:

        Except that "lesbian" no longer means "woman who is solely sexually
interested in women", but now means "woman who is solely sexually interested
in women, or is interested in both genders but bowing to social pressure to
only be involved with women."


#16 of 71 by phenix on Sat Apr 27 16:59:17 2002:

heh. wait, closet bi then?


#17 of 71 by lelande on Sun Apr 28 23:19:53 2002:

have you ever looked at a puppy's hindquarters and taken a good long think
over the possibilities?


#18 of 71 by jazz on Mon Apr 29 19:07:16 2002:

        Aaaaaaah!  I'm damaged!


#19 of 71 by void on Fri May 3 19:12:28 2002:

re resp:15: No.  Women who are sexually interested in both genders are
bisexual.  Lesbians are women who have no sexual interest in men.  I'm
really sick and tired of "lesbians" with boyfriends.


#20 of 71 by jmsaul on Fri May 3 22:33:34 2002:

I know several bisexuals who are really sick of being told by lesbians that
they're either deluding themselves and are really lesbian, or are straights
pretending to be bi because it's trendy.  So it's really refreshing to see
that you acknowledge their existence.  ;-)


#21 of 71 by jazz on Fri May 3 23:21:26 2002:

        There's more too it than that, though, it's the instant friend drama
package.  I've seen a lot of more lonely bisexual girls get sucked up into
that, and they're usually the ones who declare themselves "lesbian" - which
they seem to view as a political label more than anything else - and have
boyfriends.  A good friend of mine went down that path.  Very confused girl.


#22 of 71 by i on Sat May 4 14:45:58 2002:

I view it more as a religion than as a drama package.  "Sinner, yea have
but to Repent, and Proclaim the Creed of the New Fundamentalist Church of
Lesbianism, and yea shall be one of the Elect, a Living Part of the Great
Body of the Church, no longer Wrong and Damned, but now Empowered to Tell
Sinning Fools and Unbelievers just how Wrong and Damned they really are!" 


#23 of 71 by vidar on Sat May 4 15:45:17 2002:

There's always the possibility that someone who is having trouble 
understanding their sexuality might try to be heterosexual until they 
realize their true sexuality - during that part they are technically 
heterosexual (or whatever they're *trying* to be).  Once they figure it 
out, they are whatever they are.


#24 of 71 by jazz on Sun May 5 02:51:32 2002:

        ... and if more people had the courage to follow that path, it'd be
a better world.


#25 of 71 by senna on Mon May 6 01:43:52 2002:

People associate a bit too much meaning into the vocabulary.  


#26 of 71 by lelande on Mon May 6 19:33:07 2002:

amen.

apeople.


#27 of 71 by void on Wed May 8 20:44:54 2002:

Words mean what they mean.  If words can be redefined as anyone sees
fit, then language is no longer an effective way of communicating and we
need to come up with something else pronto.

Re resp:19: Bisexuals get a lot of crap from all three monosexual
camps.  It makes me really mad when I see lesbians or gays start using
the same rhetoric against bis as the religious right use against us. 
Having been burned more than once by bis who turned out to prefer hetero
privilege, I can understand the resentment toward them.  Still, that's
no excuse to go on a crusade and try to make bis adhere to one gender. 
I just don't date bi women or lesbians-with-boyfriends anymore.


#28 of 71 by jazz on Wed May 8 23:56:32 2002:

        To be fair, though, is it possible to tell whether a person's decision
about two partners is influenced by whether they're more attracted to one
gender, or how society views their attractions, or whether they simply get
along better with one person than another?


#29 of 71 by void on Thu May 9 15:50:23 2002:

What are you referring to?


#30 of 71 by jazz on Thu May 9 17:28:16 2002:

        You - on the subject of "het priv". ;)


#31 of 71 by brighn on Thu May 9 20:07:39 2002:

#28> I'm guilty of het privelege myself, but I think that gay monosexuals have
a superficial understanding of it, in general. It's more than, "Well, it's
easier to be with a MOTOS than a MOTSS, so I'll just be with a MOTOS and I
really don't care." There's a different "what's wrong with me?" soundtrack
in the mind when you're torn between social norm and non-norm than when you
are just non-normative.
 
Erg. I'm not sure if I'm making any sense, but there's more to it than
emotional callousness or laziness, even though I can see how it might feel
that way to a MOTSS who's on the receiving end of it.


#32 of 71 by void on Fri May 24 23:36:16 2002:

   There are also the gay+lesbian couples who get married solely to
claim hetero privilege.  I've met enough couples like that to be
convinced taht their numbers are not insignificant.  In most cases,
hetero privilege is nothing but rank cowardice.


#33 of 71 by jaklumen on Sat May 25 01:02:10 2002:

Whoa, that's a bit harsh.. I mean, without equal housing and equal 
insurance benefits, maybe they are deciding to go with the flow right 
now instead of trying to fight the system?


#34 of 71 by phenix on Sat May 25 01:38:53 2002:

rank cowardice or simple survival?


#35 of 71 by void on Sat May 25 07:52:43 2002:

   Given that there are thousands of glbt's who live openly, het
privilege is rank cowardice.


#36 of 71 by oval on Sat May 25 17:27:02 2002:

perhaps "het privalege" needs to be defined.



#37 of 71 by jmsaul on Sun May 26 01:37:22 2002:

Re #35:  Why are you condemning them for their lifestyle choice?


#38 of 71 by i on Sun May 26 12:35:26 2002:

A bi who keeps getting into MOTSS relationships, then dumping them to
keep up his/her painted-on-the-closet-door image (or over other issues)
is sleazy, but i don't see that it's morally any different that a plain-
het charmer who keeps breaking engagements because he can't handle the
commitment.

You can be a real soldier, have real courage, and still say "Germany"
if you're fortunate enough to be offered a choice between that and a
(often considered less desirable) posting in S. Vietnam.  It sounds
like void is a got-no-choice, really-pissed-off soldier in a stinking
rice paddy who's bashing on the soldiers in Germany.


#39 of 71 by lelande on Sun May 26 18:11:04 2002:

rank cowardice and simple survival are not mutually exclusive.


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