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why do men love younger women? why is highschool or "barely legal" such a big label? whazup with that?
46 responses total.
my thoughts to this: note that i'm mostly pretty cynical at this point 1) they're young and stupid: no relationship experince + unrealistic expectations = exploitible gf 2) relates to #1, they havn't had the guy who belives in #1 whoelheartedly and therefore are not emotionaly or physically scared 3) hey, let's face it, only young girls constantly pressured by society can look like that. 4) remeber inexperinced? yha, swings the other way too, no bad experinces, so more of an open mind 5) did i mention open minded? 6) horribly craving of attention, so massive flirts anyway, that's my take what's yours?
Male humans are wired to seek out females most likely to have a long and productive child-bearing. Female humans are wired to seek out males most likely to be able to support their offspring. I believe that would be the sociological analysis.
No, females are at least as interested in a male's genetic quality, since they're investing sooo much in the kid(s) who've got half his genes. So a quickie with a successful (hopefully your kids will be too), handsome (good immunity to the many disfiguring diseases common in most primitive situation) male who's just passing through (forget the limited & somewhat inbred gene pool of you little tribe) can be a really smart move.
Greg, have you been trolling at N'Sync concerts again? In other news, I think there might be status issues involved.
n'sync? nah, brittney spears:)
<runs away screaming in horror>
huzah, we have found an icon so unholy it repells vidar
It's because socity is so closed minded that any change in
the "normal" is a act of war to them.
Kids having sex? Get them!!!
Smoking Weed? Get Them!!!
Same Sex Marragies? Get Them!!!
And the pattern will continue until people accept change.
P.S. Brittney Spears and All Boy Bands Should be shoot
exicutioner Style!!!
I find it strange that people are so resistant to change. It's the one thing that's actually constant in existence.
that was really profound. may i lick your asshole? i don't disagree with the ethological points of view presented here (except maybe to point out that it isn't in the best interest of a female to get impregnated by a handsome drifter if she doesn't have a supportive family or community to fall back on, and i bet dollars to donuts there's genetically encoded support for that . . . to help explain why so many gals without support get themselves knocked up by a drifter, i cite the basketball coach from the novel version of 'the last picture show': "find 'em, fool 'em, fuck 'em, forget 'em." now, as someone with a lot of experience fucking much younger girls, i believe the phenomenon asked about in #0 often has a lot to do with fear and apprehension on the male's part -- at the risk of being trivial. plenty of different things can lead up to this fear/apprehension in a male's life; i'll suggest not inarguably that it is a fear of revealing one's own emotions in a situation where one doesn't feel a sense of control, as would be the case for such a male in the presence of a peer or elder female -- or maybe it would be better to generalize to females that he regards as equals, or superiors. sometimes, however, it's just great fun to cum on a little girl's tits.
little girl? why do i get the distinct impression were not talking an SSC encounter here.
what's SSC?
*S*afe und *S*ane und *C*onsensual Presumably it's the C that Greggers is doubtifying.
ohh, yes, brighn is so keen
aw, sweetie, I didn't think you'd noticed
Re: #10 I'd say that human females have, for evolutionary purposes, virtually always had a support network when they've elected to have a quickie with a passing stranger. If her group is fairly inbred/isolated, then even a risky & poorly supported pregnancy is "worth it" to the female who taps into the unrelated genes.
Response # 9 was not in the least bit profound.
16 i like the point you make. but does it leave room for the possibility of a female seduced despite the alarm of her 'instinct'?
Re: #18
I'm not sure what situation alarming to her instinct you're referring to.
Certainly many females pick Mr. Wrong's genes over Mr. Right's genes. A
few factors worth noting here:
- Females aren't cloned from some perfect model with perfect sexual
preference instincts. Every one is a unique (ignoring identical
twins) genetic experiment with different instincts. Sexual
reproduction rolls the dice a *lot*, then relies on natural
selection to amplify the few really good die rolls.
- Being too picky is, overall, not a trait that's selected for. Having
some so-so kids fathered by so-so males passes on ones genes. Not
having kids because ones standards for "Mr. Right" were too high
does not pass on any genes.
- Sexual selection is a double 2-way genetic arms race. Selective
females means that males are being selected both for the ability
to favorably impress females (and it's evolutionarily cheaper to
fake being Mr. Right than to really be him) and for the ability to
select the right females to try to impress (failure at *any*
stage, from fertilizing her egg to live birth to survival of the
child to reproductive age is total genetic failure).
i see now. the mistake i was making was thinking that poor environmental supports for pregnancy and child-raising would somewhat suppress the drive to reproduce in the event of an outsider mate.
I would think that it's obvious. People aren't rational, particularly not about "reproductive drive." That's why it's a drive.
A female who's seriously hungry gets more interested in food & eating (and less interested in everything else, including sex). A female who's starved down to very low body fat becomes infertile. Beyond that, i'm not aware of of any don't-get-pregnant-when-prenatal-nutrition-seems-doubtful *drive* (an intelligent choice is another matter). There is a female drive to have kids by a male with greater wealth/power (better able to provide for mother & child); i'd guess that the interlock with the stranger drive (realizing that his wealth/power are worthless, since he's only passing through) isn't even remotely reliable.
female drive to have kids? Where did you get that one from?
C'mon, you know that a woman isn't truly fulfilled until she has a baby! <rather than pointing out I'm being sarcastic, I'll simply note that those comments prior to yours were from men>
There are women who honestly think that way....they must have a baby, somebody to take care of and love. Me, thanks, I'll play with my nieces and nephews.
well, yeah.. No doubt that there are women like that, but there are also MEN like that. To generalize like that is stupid, and pretty archaic.
I agree, but it's al ittle easier in this case to generalize in this particular instance, since it's much easier for women to do something about the having kids thing.....
now i see why kewy doesn't post much. drives aren't conscious, so a drive to have kids can exist in a gal who consciously wants nothing to do with kids -- such gals can still want sex which is one manifestation of reproductive drive. of course, men have a reproductive drive as well, but men weren't generalized in this discussion because there aren't any cases of men getting pregnant by fucking strangers from out of town. YET.
medically speaking it's pretty eqsy slip him a mic fin slit open abdominal wall in appendix fashion insert embryo in to blood ritch abdominal cavity sew the particular incision will close it's self when muscles are flexed, and male will think nothing of it if sucessfully, bam, instant pregnant male
now i know why i keep going back to the bar.
i prefer a cuffed spreader myself, but when i'm in an oldschool mood i suppose the bar is worth it
Shit, I leave for a year or so and some guy with an "e" on the end of
his name takes over my mantle.
I'm not sure what's behind #0 - it sounds like the kind of posting
that's venting about a specific situation - but taking it at face value:
genetic self-interest, overplayed a little. Completely glossing things over,
it's in the male's best interests genetically to impregnate one or more
healthy young women. Though most of the qualities of attractiveness are a
human variation on the bizaare arms-race of sexual selection that's given us
peacock feathers and mallards, there are some that directly relate to an
individual's fertility, health, and reasonable ability to raise children to
a reproductive age - hips, tits, lits, and ... well, not power, but youth.
Unfortunately sometimes these evolutionarily necessary hooks get a bit
overplayed, and you'll see a man salivating over a picture of a woman with
enough silicone to host AOL on a busy day. Or lusting after a sixteen-year
old, who would've been prime marriage age only a few hundred years, or a
thousand miles, away.
What about men who love older women? Yes, I understand the younger woman mystique to a degree-- I did date two that were about 5 years younger. But then it was a pretty rare thing. The first I thought was quite a bit older-- closer to my age. The second-- oddly, same error, but I did feel a sense of recaptured youth. It didn't last long, however, because I met Julie fairly soon afterward, and she's five years older than I. Some might argue that she carries herself younger emotionally than I do, but I still dream of the day she carries her full 32 years. Youth has its place, I suppose-- I won't deny that a breast on the cusp of maturity, with little sag, is an aesthetic pleasure, and that young women possessing such breasts often have very appealing physiques to match, but.. there was always something about experience that compelled me. Confidence, maturity, composure, and such things do sometimes accompany lessons learned with age. A nubile body is tempting, yes, but an older woman is much like vine-ripened grapes or that which has endured the demands of passing generations.
did this julie have a daughter?
not yet. She didn't come with kids attached. What brought that comment on?
wondered if we were thinking of the same person.
wow. men, you see, wow.
ok here it is. my partners are usually older. and it's not becuase i want some man who can take care of me. it's becuase they KNOW HOW TO FUCK AND ARE DAMN GOOD AT IT because they have experience. just like lelande thinks its fun to cum on a young girl's tits, it's fun for a woman to be in bed with someone who knows what the fuck theyre doing and what they want, etc. but not to say some young cutie couldnt get in my pants either. it is fun to teach someone things, isnt it boys.
After your mid-twenties age really doesn't dictate sexual experience,
though, at least insofar as I've seen. It does seem to help men know how to
properly behave in public, but then, as a species, we're slow.
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