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Grex Books Item 72: The Mysterious Quote - Summer 1998 Edition
Entered by remmers on Wed Jul 8 16:30:51 UTC 1998:

It just occurred to me that there's no Mysterious Quote item in
the current Agora, so here goes.

The rules of the game are simple. The person who's "it" posts a
short quote from a published work -- fiction, non-fiction, prose,
poetry, whatever. Other people try to guess the author of the
quote. The first person to guess correctly is now "it" and gets
to enter the next quote.

Obviously, the quote should be by an author whom other people are
at least somewhat likely to have heard of. Guessers should guess
one author at a time. When you post a guess, it's nice to let us
in on the reasoning behind it, so that we can all learn a bit
more about literature.

Since I'm posting the item, I'll go first. Hold on for a quote,
coming within moments...

65 responses total.



#1 of 65 by remmers on Wed Jul 8 16:40:00 1998:

Okay, here's the first quote. It's from a work of fiction by a
contemporary American author:

        These are some of the things that Jeremy Pauling dreaded:
        using the telephone, answering the doorbell, opening mail,
        leaving his house, making purchases. Also wearing new
        clothes, standing in open spaces, meeting the eyes of a
        stranger, eating in the presence of others, turning on
        electrical appliances. Some days he woke to find the
        weather sunny and his health adequate and his work
        progressing beautifully; yet there would be a nagging
        hole of uneasiness deep inside him, some flaw in the
        center of his well-being, steadily corroding around the
        edges and widening until he could not manage to lift his
        head from the pillow. Then he would have to go over
        every possibility. Was it something he had to do? Some-
        where to go? Someone to see? Until the answer came: oh
        yes! today he had to call the gas company about the oven.
        A two-minute chore, nothing to worry about. He knew that.
        He *knew*. Yet he lay on his bed feeling flattened and
        defeated, and it seemed to him that life was a series
        of hurdles that he had been tripping over for decades,
        with the end nowhere in sight.

By the way, if folks are having trouble guessing an author, it's
nice to give hints and/or additional quotes. So I'll do so if
nobody guesses this author in a couple of days or so.


#2 of 65 by remmers on Wed Jul 8 16:41:55 1998:

(Oops, too many "so" words in that last sentence of mine.)


#3 of 65 by polygon on Thu Jul 9 04:37:10 1998:

So?


#4 of 65 by remmers on Thu Jul 9 10:47:56 1998:

Heh. Well, guess I'm just a style freak.

Any guesses on the quote?


#5 of 65 by hhsrat on Sun Jul 12 02:00:10 1998:

It sounds like almost a sequel to The Catcher in the Rye, but I don't 
think J.D. Salinger wrote a sequel.


#6 of 65 by remmers on Sun Jul 12 04:01:48 1998:

Not J.D. Salinger. But like Salinger, this author has won major
literary prizes.


#7 of 65 by rcurl on Tue Jul 14 05:13:03 1998:

Summer agora item 55, the Myterious Quote, has been linked to books 72.


#8 of 65 by raven on Tue Jul 14 08:41:11 1998:

Saul Bellow?


#9 of 65 by remmers on Tue Jul 14 15:18:42 1998:

Not Saul Bellow.

Maybe it's time to give another quote. This one's from a different work
by the same author:

        He was based in London, as usual. From there he would make
brief           forays into other cities, never listing more than a
handful of           hotels, a handful of restaurants within a tiny,
easily                          accessible radius in each place; for his
guidebooks were
        anything but all-inclusive. ("Plenty of other books say how
        to see as much of a city as possible," his boss had told him.
        You should say how to see as little.") The name of Macon's
        hotel was the Jones Terrace. He would have preferred one of
        the American chain hotels, but those cost too much. The Jones
        Terrace was all right, though -- small and well kept. He
        swung into action at once to make his room his own, stripping
        off the ugly bedspread and stuffing it into a closet,
        unpacking his belongings and hiding his bag. He changed
        clothes, rinsed the ones he'd worn and hung them in the
        shower stall. Then, after a wistful glance at the bed, he
        went out for breakfast. It was nowhere near morning back
        home, but breakfast was the meal that businessmen most often
        had to manage for themselves. He made a point of researching
        it thoroughly wherever he went.

This quote is from a novel that was made into a movie.


#10 of 65 by remmers on Tue Jul 14 15:20:07 1998:

(Hm. I entered the above in Backtalk, and the formatting looks weird,
although it looked fine before I posted it. Sorry about that.)


#11 of 65 by scott on Wed Jul 15 00:16:27 1998:

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#12 of 65 by aruba on Wed Jul 15 07:06:49 1998:

I would guess that that is from The Accidental Tourist, by Anne Tyler.


#13 of 65 by remmers on Wed Jul 15 12:04:36 1998:

You would guess right. Anne Tyler it is. The first quote was from
an earlier Tyler novel, _Celestial Navigation_.

Mark's up.


#14 of 65 by aruba on Wed Jul 15 17:21:40 1998:

OK, I'll look for something.


#15 of 65 by aruba on Sun Jul 19 14:28:25 1998:

Sorry to take so long.  Here's a quote:

The English tutor's room was festooned with proofs of her forthcoming work on 
the Prosodic elements in English verse from Beowulf to Bridges.  Since Miss 
Lydgate had perfected, or was in the process of perfecting (since no work of 
scholarship ever attains a static perfection), an entirely new prosodic 
theory, demanding a novel and complicated system of notation which involved 
the use of twelve different varieties of type; and since Miss Lydgate's 
handwriting was difficult to read and her experience in dealing with printers 
limited, there existed at that moment five successive releases in gallery 
form, at different stages of completion, together with two sheets in page-
proof, and an appendix in typescript, while the important Introduction which 
afforded the key to the whole argument still remained to be written.  It was 
only when a section had advanced to page-proof condition that Miss Lydgate 
became fully convinced of the necessity of transferring large paragraphs of 
argument from one chapter to another, each change of this kind naturally 
demanding expensive over-running on the page-proof, and the elimination of the 
corresponding portions in the five sets of revises; so that in the course of 
the necessary cross-reference, Miss Lydgate would be discovered by her pupils 
and colleagues wound into a kind of paper cocoon and helplessly searching for 
her fountain-pen amid the litter. 


#16 of 65 by maeve on Sun Jul 19 18:31:42 1998:

Gaudy Night, Dorothy l Sayers..  (whee, I love that book)


#17 of 65 by aruba on Sun Jul 19 18:59:55 1998:

Yup, that was fast.  maeve's up.


#18 of 65 by maeve on Sun Jul 19 23:16:44 1998:

<g> you just happened to pick one of the series of books containing both the
ideal man and the only woman deserving of him. and *really* good dialogue.
hm..let me see what I can find.. 

        "How smiles it to thee?" said Juss. "Be sure we shall find no better
place than this thou seest to dwell in until the snows melt and we may on.
For though it be summer all the year round in this fortunate valley, it is
winter on the great hills, and until the spring we were mad to essay our
enterprise."
        "Why then," said Brandoch Daha, "turn we shepards awhile. Thou shalt
pipe to me, and I"ll foot thee measures shall make the dryads think they n'er
went to school. And Mirvash shall be a goat-foot god to chase them; for to
tell thee truth country wenches are long grown tedious to me. O 'tis a sweet
life. But ere we fall to it, bethink thee, O Juss: time marcheth, and the
world waggeth: what goeth forward in Demonland till summer be come and we home
again?"


#19 of 65 by davel on Sun Jul 19 23:41:24 1998:

Sounds like E. R. Eddison's _The_Worm_Ouroboros_, I think.

(If that's right, I *deserve* it.  I'm out of town for 4 days & miss
_Gaudy_Night_ by a few hours ...)


#20 of 65 by maeve on Mon Jul 20 04:21:33 1998:

well done :) it's an even trade


#21 of 65 by davel on Mon Jul 20 13:18:04 1998:

OK.  This isn't the kind of thing I'd normally ever have come across, but I
happened to.  We'll see if it's too obscure.  I'm starting with a slightly
less-than-representative sample, though possibly a pretty memorable one:

     I sat in my rocking chair, holding _The_Internet_Complete_Reference_,
     by Harley Hahn.  It is a large, thick paperback.  On the front cover
     are eight colors and five typefaces.  I opened the book.  In the
     first lines of the "Introduction," I read this:

        The internet is, by far, the greatest and most significant
        achievement in the history of mankind.  What?  Am I saying
        that the internet is more impressive than the pyramids?
        More beautiful than Michelangelo's David?  More important
        to mankind than the wondrous inventions of the industrial
        revolution?  Yes, yes and yes.

        I thought of how my love of books is challenged by books that
     look like this and contain sentences like these.  I closed it and
     turned it over.  More colors, more typefaces.  I sighed, reminding
     myself that I was looking for information, not wisdom.  Also, tiny
     numbers on the lower right corner reminded me that I had paid $29.95
     for the book.  I opened it again.



#22 of 65 by remmers on Mon Jul 20 13:26:16 1998:

Hm... William Safire, perhaps?


#23 of 65 by davel on Mon Jul 20 17:10:38 1998:

Heh.  No.  Quite a different type of bird, I'd say.  But given this particular
snippet, I can see where that guess comes from, John.  I'll quote more later.


#24 of 65 by davel on Wed Jul 22 11:12:14 1998:

No further guesses?  I'll add one more hint: it's somebody much less
well-known than Safire.

Another quote, this one perhaps more typical:

             Sara Thomas went with me to school yesterday to talk
        to my writing classes about her writing and research work as
        Conservation Chair for our local Sierra Club group.  She also sat
        in on the discussion of Thoreau in my nineteenth-century American
        Literature class.  As usually happens in discussions of Thoreau,
        the talk turned to the subject of living in and with nature.
             One student, whom I will call Beverly, said that when she and
        her husband first moved to the country, they thought woodchucks
        were adorable.  Later, she began to see them as trouble.  "They can
        knock down an outbuilding by burrowing under it."
             Eventually, she said, she and her husband (who has been
        practicing transcendental meditation for twenty years) got used
        to the idea of shooting them.  In an attempt to demonstrate how
        comfortable she felt about killing woodchucks, she held an imaginary
        Ouzi and sprayed imaginary bullets out toward other members of
        the class.  "There are too many woodchucks," she said.
             Young, red-haired Amy burst out.  "Why not kill some people?"
             No one spoke.
             "I mean it," she said.  "I'd just as soon kill a person as
        an animal."
             After a moment of utter silence, I said, "Well, let's look at
        a passage in the _Norton_Anthology_...."

(This passage contains a couple of identifying marks.)


#25 of 65 by remmers on Thu Jul 23 11:46:10 1998:

Assuming that the passage is non-fiction, the author appears to be
a teacher of English literature. So far, no bells ringing...


#26 of 65 by davel on Fri Jul 24 11:07:15 1998:

It is nonfiction, or purportedly so.  The author is indeed an English Lit
teacher.  I didn't say the author is extremely well-known or anything,
though.  I came across this book while browsing at a local bookstore, by
chance.  Some of the contents were previously published in magazines, some
of which some grexies probably read.  Let's try another quote.

    A friend called to tell me that the Department of American Thought
    and Language at Michigan State University needed a writing teacher.
    I didn't know anything about the job, but one morning late in August,
    instead of putting on shorts and a t-shirt and spending another day
    puzzling over the garage door and adding tasks to my cardboard list,
    I cleaned my fingernails with a small screwdriver, dressed in suit and
    tie, and drove the fifty miles to East Lansing for a job interview.
         A half hour before my appointment, I was walking on campus beside
    the Red Cedar River.  It was one of those big-cloud late-summer days
    when a relieving coolness suggests both autumn and spring.  A student
    sat beneath a tree between the sidewalk and the river, reading.  As I
    passed, she looked up and smiled.  Three months apart from my wife, I
    was moved to a modest sexual fantasy.  But that was suddenly overtaken
    by a wave of desire that had nothing at all to do with legs and arms and
    heaving chests.  I wanted to know what book she was reading.  I cast a
    quick look back, but she was holding it so that I could not see the cover.
         Other students sat by the river, talking or studying.  One fellow
    lay flat on his back with a blade of grass in his mouth, staring into
    the trees.  Finally I sat down, amazed that I had once had free time
    like that.  How had that life ever been lost?

Another clue or two there ...
(If nobody recognizes the author from this, I'll have to start quoting
from segments which were previously published.)


#27 of 65 by remmers on Fri Jul 24 12:19:06 1998:

Hm, the author is somebody close to home. Still no bells ringing...
<remmers ponders>


#28 of 65 by mta on Fri Jul 24 17:44:19 1998:

Did he write "Beer Cans by the Side of the Road?"


#29 of 65 by davel on Fri Jul 24 20:42:35 1998:

Could be.  I'm not familiar with that.  It's not included in this book, if
so.  So go ahead & guess by name ...


#30 of 65 by mta on Fri Jul 24 21:26:49 1998:

I will as soon as I can remember his last name.  ;)  He was *my* lit professor
way back when.  (First name is Ken.)


#31 of 65 by davel on Mon Jul 27 11:46:02 1998:

(This author's first name is not Ken.)


#32 of 65 by mta on Mon Jul 27 14:23:45 1998:

Oh, Ok, I was wrong then...


#33 of 65 by davel on Mon Jul 27 23:26:57 1998:

Let's try another quote.  I'll pick one right from the beginning of the book,
so that anyone who picked it up, read a few pages, & put it down again has
a chance:

    The problem becomes more complex when I read about varieties of
    shallots in Rodale Press's _Guide_to_Vegetables_and_Fruits_.  There are
    Giant Reds, French Epicureans, and Yellow Multipliers.  Do I have
    Yellow Multipliers, and are they different from Damrosch's multiplier
    onions?  Finally I read this definition of shallots in Shepherd and
    Ellen Ogden's _The_Cook's_Garden_: "Shallots are clumping onions,
    a subvariety of the species _Allium_ _cepa_, which includes onions."
    Does this sentence make as little sense as I think it does?  I read it
    again, slowly, wondering if one can be driven mad by a gardening book.
         I guess there are no shallot scholars.  Perhaps shallots haven't
    been studied closely because they are usually bit players, part of a
    sauce.  There is even some confusion about how to pronounce their name.
    Once I gave some to a friend who likes to cook.
         "Oh," he said, "SHAL-lots.  How did you string them together
    like that?"
         "It's easy to braid shal-LOTS," I said.  "I'll show you how
    sometime."
         "Information I couldn't use," he said.  "SHAL-lots are expensive."
         "But it's easy to grow shal-LOTS," I said.
         This was not a conversation, but a tussle over pronunciation.
    Webster's says that the stress is on the second syllable.  Shal-LOT,
    but many people insist on pronouncing it SHAL-lot.  It is interesting
    to me that I pronounce my own surname with variable stress, sometimes
    XXX-xxx, and sometimes Xxx-XXX.

Heh.  I'd forgotten that that snippet ended with the author's surname!
Good thing I caught myself in time to X it out ...


#34 of 65 by remmers on Tue Jul 28 12:44:08 1998:

Hm... Michigan background, preoccupation with language style,
skepticism of the internet, two-syllable surname. That's a few
clues. An author who seems to fit all of them is Sven Birkerts,
author of _The Gutenberg Elegies_, so I'll guess him.


#35 of 65 by davel on Tue Jul 28 23:16:43 1998:

Not Birkerts (with whom I'm unfamiliar).  I'll add that beyond substituting
Xs I didn't mess with the author's name in that quote.  The name has 6 letters
and is divided into 3-letter syllables.

I'll post another snippet:

         While I was continuing the weeding project this morning, I began
    to feel, in the hairs on the back of my neck, *watched*.  You're being
    silly, I told myself, and went back to weeding.  I stopped again
    and lifted my eyes.  Nothing in front of me, though that wasn't the
    direction I felt watched from.  I forced my sight down to the purslane.
    I felt like purslane then, plucked out of my security.  It occurred to
    me what an odd concept a vacation is, really.  One of the tasks of an
    animal is to stay alert; it can't let up if it wants to stay alive.
    I leaped up and whirled around, shocked to see a large creature
    standing behind me.
         Before leaving for Mexico, I noticed that one or more deer
    was ravaging the gardens, nipping even tomato plants.  So I built a
    frame on which I hung an old pair of jeans, a red, sweaty t-shirt,
    a plastic pot, and a hat.  I know why the deer haven't returned: this
    thing has come to life, like everything else in the garden.  Dressed in
    my clothes but thinking its own thoughts, my scarecrow was watching me.

(From here on out I'll try quoting from selections which had prior
publication in magazines.  Quite certainly some grexies receive the
periodical in which this one first appeared; I'd guess that some of those
who routinely follow this item do so.  Final clue for this time: the title
of the essay from which this is taken occurs in the bit just quoted.)

(Oh, I guess that's two clues: in case it wasn't moderately obvious by now,
I'm quoting from a book of essays.)


#36 of 65 by mcnally on Thu Jul 30 06:03:03 1998:

 re #0:   yeah, as the holder of the mystery quote when spring agora
 ended I just decided to let it quietly die as nobody was making any
 progress on guessing the author of the satirical piece about being
 "a Gael of the Gaels" and I had no idea how to speed up the process
 so that an answer would be reached before I left on vacation without
 totally giving it away -- I suspect the author I chose was too obscure.
 for the record, the quote was from Flann O'Brien (aka Brian O'Nolan,
 aka Myles na Gopaleen) and was taken from the work "The Poor Mouth."
 Other novels include "At Swim Two Birds", and "The Third Policeman".


#37 of 65 by davel on Sat Aug 1 15:38:51 1998:

<dave is getting a bit desperate>
The piece I last quoted was (the book's copyright page says) first published
in _Sierra_ magazine.  This bit, from the title essay of the book, was first
published in _Country_Journal_:

    _August_5_
         Gravel trucks in the Turklins' driveway.  Donna heard
    a noise yesterday and saw the top of a tree in the Turklins' yard
    waver and then go down with a crash.  So this morning we walked over
    to the property line to see what was going on.
         Where the Turklins had had trees, specimen shrubs, and a lawn,
    there was now a flat pad of gravel.  A short, stocky man, about 55,
    was watering the gravel.  He had set up a sprinkler and turned on
    the water.  But the sprinkler wouldn't twirl; it just threw water in
    one direction.
         "Damn it!" he said, and went to shut off the faucet.
         Two German shepherds barked and came toward us.  Donna retreated.
    I squatted down and held out my hand.  They sniffed.
         "They won't hurt you," my neighbor said and went to adjust
    his sprinkler.  Then he turned on the water again, and the sprinkler
    turned, spraying water over the gravel.
         "That's better," he said, coming up to me.  "Name's Heinrich,
    Frank Heinrich."  He tore a couple of peaches from the Turklins'
    old peach tree.  "Have some fruit."
         The sprinkler stuck, just as before.  Frank grunted in
    exasperation, threw his peach at the sprinkler, then went to turn
    off the water.
         "What are you up to here?" I said.
         "They told me to water this down good.  I'm going to put up a
    hobby building here.  I've always had one.  You'll like it.  It's a
    nice design--lots of brick.  Hell, you won't even be able to see it."
    He turned the water on again.
         Watching the sprinkler turn, he said, "This place is a mess.
    The fellow who was here before--nice guy, I guess, but he just let
    the place go to hell.  Never trimmed anything."
         I watched a white-winged bit of thistledown float from my land
    over his gravel pad.
         "Well, I prefer the natural look," I said.



#38 of 65 by remmers on Tue Aug 4 13:58:51 1998:

<remmers suspects that he's unfamiliar with this author>


#39 of 65 by gjharb on Wed Aug 5 17:34:17 1998:

Dave:  Waiting for the answer to your mystery quotes.   I would like to add
this one to my list of books to read.


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