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Grex Books Item 4: books
Entered by rcurl on Fri Apr 1 03:49:34 UTC 1994:

Writing often comes in Books.

45 responses total.



#1 of 45 by gerund on Fri Apr 1 03:50:57 1994:

That's quite true.  So tell me is this a book discussion item?


#2 of 45 by rcurl on Fri Apr 1 04:14:28 1994:

Strange that there is no books conference. music, arts, movies,
writing, but no books. I like books. I went to the Nineteenth Michigan
Antiquarian Book and Paper Show in Lansing, last Sunday, and there
were a lot of books there. I went with a small list of wants, such
as _Polly and Eleanor_ by Lillian Roy, the second in the Polly Brewster
series but, no luck. I did discover that my Mickey Mouse Pop Up, which
I was given as a child, belongs in a safe-deposit box. That's what
sometimes happens to books if you keep them long enough, but how to you
know which ones to keep that long? I did buy one book - from the
dealer of _84 Charing Cross, EH?_, a Munising shop, Eh? Robert's Rules
of Order - 1885 edition - ex libra Chase Salmon Osborn, governor of
Michigan in 1911-12. Interesting man, Osborn: born in a log cabin,
editor and publisher, prospector and businessman in Sault Ste Marie,
UM regent, married his adopted daughter. Also the "born" in Fiborn
Quarry, a Michigan ghost town, where I've spent hundreds of hours over
the last 19 years, and one reason I am so familiar with Robert's
Rules of Order. So I have the Gov's personal, signed, copy in hand,
and can imagine him using it, when he fought for warnings at Grade
Crossing as the Commissioner of Railroads, or plundered the natural
resources of the UP with little regard to other values. Old books
can carry many associations, and thoughts. What about yours?


#3 of 45 by gerund on Fri Apr 1 04:36:54 1994:

I'd love to see a book conference.  I remember M-Net had a Literature conf, but
I don't call M-Net anymore.  I've loved reading and books since I was in grade
school.  Lately I haven't had any time to set aside to read, but I'm making
a deliberate effort to set some time aside now.  There's so much I'd love to
read right now that I can't think of where to start.  Perhaps I'll start with
Bruce Catton's trilogy on the Civil War.  I've had all three volumes in my
collection for a while, but I've never taken the time to read them.  The Civil
War has always been a fascinating subject to me.



#4 of 45 by vishnu on Fri Apr 1 06:56:29 1994:

Books=Good.


#5 of 45 by remmers on Fri Apr 1 12:16:22 1994:

(New conferences can be proposed in the Coop conference.)


#6 of 45 by rcurl on Fri Apr 1 18:16:36 1994:

I didn't want to propose a new conference until a body of followers
of just a books item develops. Tell us, One, why Books=Good?


#7 of 45 by vishnu on Fri Apr 1 19:00:56 1994:

Books=Good.  

<it's a great escape..>


#8 of 45 by davel on Fri Apr 1 19:51:46 1994:

I have a feeling that it will (after an initial burst) become another
low-activity one, but I'm for it.
(Re #2: Rane, I don't read the SF conference, but I thought it tended
to focus on books - within that area, of course.)


#9 of 45 by anne on Fri Apr 1 19:53:13 1994:

Books are wonderful.  They are the ultimate portable entertainment!
tv are hard to take along with you, now a book, just grab one and within
a few pages you are in another world!
Books=Wonderful!!!


#10 of 45 by jdg on Sat Apr 2 00:40:32 1994:

I would participate in such a conference.


#11 of 45 by danr on Sat Apr 2 01:26:44 1994:

We do have a books item in the arts conference.

I, too, like old books, but I can hardly claim to be knowlegeable about
them.  I've often thought it would be neat to learn bookbinding, but
I've had to put that somewhat far down the  list of things I'd like
to learn.


#12 of 45 by jdg on Sat Apr 2 02:35:21 1994:

My cousin taught bookbinding in NYC for more than 40 years.  It's a shame,
but I never learned it.  My mother took a class in it here in Ann Arbor
around 15 years ago.



#13 of 45 by vishnu on Sat Apr 2 02:35:22 1994:

Charles Dodgson=Good


#14 of 45 by omni on Sat Apr 2 06:18:24 1994:

 I too, have felt that a books conf was long overdue, simply because of
the diversity of topics available and the discussion there of.


#15 of 45 by rcurl on Sat Apr 2 06:53:56 1994:

There seems to be some interest in a books conference. I'd sure put
it in my .cflist. We could bring this item, and maybe the one in arts,
over to nucleate it. All in favor (of whatever it takes to be in favor
of) say BOOKS.


#16 of 45 by vishnu on Sat Apr 2 14:07:40 1994:

BOOOKS
er, 
BOOKS


#17 of 45 by cerebus on Sun Apr 3 17:22:00 1994:

Cerebus gets up drunkenly from #tavern and utters



               BOOKS


#18 of 45 by rcurl on Sun Apr 3 18:48:56 1994:

Well, we've had three calls for BOOKS, so I'll check on setting up
a new BOOKS conference. Think, danr, we could have an on-line
book-binding course, the instructions being posted at about the rate
at which you should finish each step. I've had journals bound, but not
recently, as I don't know of anyone still learning, and willing to
"practice" on my stuff for not too high a fee.


#19 of 45 by rcurl on Sun Apr 3 19:44:01 1994:

The book item in arts is about books one has read or is reading. That
would be a natural item for a books conference. I'd prefer that such
a conference be set up with an initial set of items. So far, ones
mentioned (or likely to be of interest) are: an introduction, 
announcements (including, or separately, upcoming book fairs), books
I have read or am reading, bookbinding...what else, of a general nature?


#20 of 45 by cerebus on Sun Apr 3 20:57:36 1994:


Perhaps a listing of books by the same author, or in the same
series for those who have only read some of them?




#21 of 45 by remmers on Sun Apr 3 21:09:08 1994:

Since a books conference would overlap with territory currently covered
by the writing and arts conferences, I think it's appropriate to get
reaction from the fw's and participants of those conferences on the
concept.  So I'm glad you raised the concept here.


#22 of 45 by gerund on Mon Apr 4 05:23:57 1994:

AS I beleive I said way back up there, I'm for a Book Conf.


#23 of 45 by omni on Mon Apr 4 07:38:06 1994:

 Speaking as 1/4 of the arts conf, I support a books conf.


#24 of 45 by remmers on Mon Apr 4 11:31:16 1994:

For it to actually happen, somebody should make a proposal in coop.
(Maybe after the restart of coop slated for later this week.)


#25 of 45 by bubbles on Wed Apr 6 06:48:16 1994:

If you can have a whole conf for vomit, why not one for books?


#26 of 45 by rcurl on Wed Apr 6 13:18:48 1994:

Another enthusiastic vote of support!


#27 of 45 by gerund on Fri May 6 18:30:12 1994:

Item 70 in writing is now linked as item 4 in books.


#28 of 45 by headdoc on Sat May 7 00:29:44 1994:

I have more books then anything else I have.  Someday my house may cave in like
 a giant sink whole due to the weight of my books (my husband's books 
contribute to the weight).  I would have a book sale but I cant stand to part
with most of my books.  Anyway else hold on to theirs?


#29 of 45 by davel on Sat May 7 00:44:47 1994:

They help insulate the walls.


#30 of 45 by kami on Sat May 7 04:27:45 1994:

My favorite style of decoration: early post modern bookshelf...


#31 of 45 by rcurl on Sat May 7 06:22:41 1994:

Speaking of bookshelves - who makes and sells bookcases made 100% of
solid wood? Bookcases are *very rare* in furniture stores (which says
a lot about our society). I'd like to make some nice ones, but I might
have to retire to find the time to do that.


#32 of 45 by davel on Sat May 7 12:25:22 1994:

There used to be a guy at the A2 Farmers' Market.  (I haven't been to the
Market in years, mind you.)  His bookcases weren't really very good, but
met your criteria.  (They were small, constructed of softwoods, roughly
made & unfinished, & had fixed shelves.  I at one point bought one, because
it met my needs at that moment & they were also fairly inexpensive.)

If you want good wooden bookcases, I have a couple of suggestions, though.
Hang around antiques shows (the kind where not everything is really
antique).  We got some really nice things at relatively low prices that
way.  (I think some are technically china cabinets, but that's the way
it goes.)  Also, if you can spare the time, haunt the UM Property Disposition.
From time to time they get good ones in; but the good stuff often goes right
back out, so you have to invest the time in being there a lot.


#33 of 45 by katie on Sat May 7 17:20:13 1994:

That's probably Coleman Jewett. Last year he had a 2-yr waiting list for
special orders.


#34 of 45 by nice on Mon May 9 16:30:47 1994:

Save Books? Doesn't everyone?  I've still got my original Wrinkle In Time
that I read when I was in the fourth grade. I have a house full of books.
Books are my great escape. I keep *almost* everything. 


#35 of 45 by lilmo on Mon Sep 18 03:57:18 1995:

I buy very few books for fun, but I do seem to have difficulty parting with
my college textbooks...  (it's not too bad; I'm still in college)


#36 of 45 by anne on Mon Sep 18 20:27:57 1995:

I know what you mean... I generally keep a few every semester. :)



#37 of 45 by abchan on Tue Sep 19 15:45:00 1995:

I keep almost all of my books.  But that's because I have been taking
classes that I like.  Except for those freshman writing seminars
*shudder* where I returned those books right away!  Nothing against
the class... just the person teaching it...


#38 of 45 by lilmo on Fri Sep 22 17:22:05 1995:

I have bought books for 8 regular semesters, and 4 summer sessions (6hrs max
each summer session, 2 sessions per summer) and I have sold back maybe two
books.  I think I've got you ALL beat...  :-)


#39 of 45 by abchan on Fri Sep 22 19:00:01 1995:

You definately beat me.  I haven't taken so many classes!
But is it fair to compare selling back a book and a class worth of books?
I only sold back books for my freshman writing seminar but each had a whole
stack of books (it was in the English and Philosophy Dept., of course they
had lots of books)


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