Hi, this conference, along with the "backtalk2" conference, is for initial
testing of the Backtalk interface to the conferences on Grex.  We are limiting
Backtalk to just these two conferences until we are convinced it is in good
order and that it is getting along with Picospan OK.  We hope to use it with
all conferences later.

I've entered the first item in "Backtalk" using Picospan.  I plan to enter
the first item in "backtalk2" using Backtalk.  The idea is to see how well
the two systems read each other's sum files.

83 responses total.

OK, looks like Backtalk reads this item OK, at least with the vanilla
interface.  So now I'm using vanilla to post a response.  Cross your
figners.

Well, that seems to have worked.

Looks OK, so far.

Picospan just said:

(Fixed item 1 flags 13c->3c)

after I psoted response 3 from pistachio.  Guess we'll have to figure out that
flag bit.

Hmmm..  That bit picospan removed is the linked_item bit.  I had just liked
backtalk2, item 1 to backtalk, item 4.  But it looks like the linked bit got
set on backtalk, item 1.  That's probably a backtalk bug.

This is my first Backtalk post on Grex. I am using Macintosh 
Network 
Navigator 2.0.
I wonder if that backtalk bug, setting the linked-item bit on the 
wrong item, could have introduce some of the mini-confusion we saw 
once on HVCN. Nah, probably, not.

We have actually been close to the point of installing this for 
months, except for the authentication detail which Jan finally 
resolved with the external authentication module in Apache.

This is my first response.  I'm wondering if my name will appear 
wrong when I hit the little "Post" button.  In the "name" window, 
it appears as "Michael O'Leary,Write your, Congressthing!", which 
is what appears between the ":"s in /etc/passwd.  I'm thinking that 
if this posts that whole thing, instead of just "Michael O'Leary", 
that one might want to make Backtalk parse from the ":" to the 
first ",".  

What do you think?  

(By the way, this was posted using Pistachio via Navigator 3.0 release.)

Yo!

(I'm guessing that my name will also appear wrong when I hit
the little "Post" button. You guys have *got* to get this
thing debugged...)

Well, Well, GREX has introduced sumpin' new...K00li0

Hope this is actually goin' to work!

OK, this i my first post using netscape.
Seems pretty slow, but it works, and it's faster than
trying to use it with telnet.  Good job.

ah....what's a backtalk?

Check out http://www.izzy.net/~janc/backtalk.html for more info about what
backtalk is.

Woah, neat! You can add HTML tags!  
<A HREF="http://fluffy.net.net/users/ryan1/index.html">My Home Page!</A>
heh
<p>
<HR>
<A HREF="mailto:rantkowi@northland.lib.mi.us">My E-Mail addy</a>
<p>
Good Work Jan & Steve!
<hr>
Gee, i wonder If i can mess with colors
<font size=7> is this in huge text??? </font>

Oh darn, I was terribly wrong :) 
I just made a big fool of myself :)
oh well, you got to that bug before me :)

BTW, Why does it say "Ryan Antkowiaks Rewt,Mich Net,SUCKS!,." is my 
name?  That is the extra finger information, Gotta get it to strip the 
extra junk from /etc/passwd I guess.  

As ryan discovered, you can't put html in your responses.  However,
Backtalk will recognize things that are URLs and make them clickable.
Since Backtalk is going to be sharing the conference items with
Picospan, and Picospan users probably don't want to read html,
Backtalk isn't going to encourage its use.

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You know, I like this one almost as much as enigma and test...

Rather slow today.  I read three chapters in my book while getting this
far.  Grex's net connection is so slow that this is really a bit painful
sometimes.

Net connection is perkier today. I was only able to get through
five pages.

!who
!finger
!last chelsea

Hmph, this backtalk thing is obviously broken. Doesn't support
any of my favorite commands.

The first two would be pretty trivial to implement, but why bother? 
Real techies don't care what mere humans are doing.

I wonder why my participation file does not seem to be getting 
changed. I last posted on sept 7, and my participation file is dated 
then, but everything looks new again. It didn't do that before.

I have no idea.  I haven't seen the problem.

OK, Backtalk is turned on again.  I've installed a new version of the
authentication software that should be both faster and more secure.

OK, I've installed the latest and greatest version of backtalk and
its scripts as well.  Not that you are likely to notice any difference
because of that.  I don't remember what all changes I've made recently
but it's mostly things like preventing fairwitnesses from retiring
linked items, and stuff like that.

A list of a few things that need to be done before turning
Backtalk fully on on Grex:
  - Deadlock checks.  If Picospan and Backtalk try to post to
    the same item at the same time, do they deadlock?
  - Closed conference checks.  Does backtalk prevent people from
    from joining closed conferences? Does it prevent
    fairwitnesses from linking items out of closed conferences?
Less important:
  - Make the "change password" and "change full name" buttons
    go away.  They won't work anytime soon.

Hmmm...it looks like the new backtalk isn't recognizing me as a
fairwitness.  Need to check that out.

OK, that's fixed.

For testing purposes, I have temporarily turned backtalk2 into a closed
conference, with the same configuration as the staff conference.  It
seems to work right.  Can join if and only if I am on the ulist, and
while it is closed I can't link any items from it into this conference.

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Hey, guys.  I like Backtalk.  It's a great idea.  Lots of great ideas 
and work have gone into it.  :)

Thanks.

I've installed a new version of Backtalk, together with a new version
of Pistachio.  The new Pistachio should be a bit more usable in various
small ways.

This is the 1st time I am telnetting. I dont know
what to do in this backtalk.

whatever

hi pal, it seems there is much more than  what one can think of it also

Hi , 
THis is just a test response from Sandeep . 

Cheers,
Sandeep

tel balajis

Hi Sandeep, 
Can u help me to send a telegram to the user balajis

i  am from madras

regards
arunmani

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