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Grex Agora Item 44: H1N1 vs Covid 19
Entered by walkman on Sun Mar 29 23:31:12 UTC 2020:

From the CDC: "During the pandemic, CDC provided estimates of the
numbers of 2009 H1N1 cases, hospitalizations and deaths on seven
different occasions. Final estimates were published in 2011. These final
estimates were that from April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010 approximately
60.8 million cases (range: 43.3-89.3 million), 274,304 hospitalizations
(195,086-402,719), and 12,469 deaths (8868-18,306) occurred in the
United States due to pH1N1."

No quarantine. No hysteria.

https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/estimates_2009_h1n1.htm

Right now there are 122k infected vs 60 million.

What was different in 2009 vs 2020?

122 responses total.



#1 of 122 by tod on Mon Mar 30 00:42:30 2020:

What was different was the speed at which detection occurred.
This strain is nefarious...lurks in your system several days where you're
contageous.  My cousin's son has it..they live in Rochester Hills.
A few coworkers (different state) also have it.  One is going downhill,
is younger, and his wife is also in ICU.  It's looking bad.


#2 of 122 by walkman on Mon Mar 30 01:07:58 2020:

I am hearing from 5 sources that there will be 3 days of no internet or
phone. Perhaps TV as well. Supposedly between April 1 and April 10." 3
days of darkness." We will hear presidential emergency alerts on our
phones. While this is happening thousands of people (globalists) will be
arrested. The man-made pandemic will backfire as it provides cover for
these arrests. There will be a lot of talk about a giant magnetic pulse.
It will be disinformation. This could all be bs but there could be
things you can do to prepare. The internet will be rerouted to remove
dark nodes used by these globalists. The economic crash caused by the
over reaction of the covid 19 is the last ditch effort of the illuminati
to bring global government. Like I said, this could all be bs. Just
passing it on. Go ahead and laugh.


#3 of 122 by tod on Mon Mar 30 16:38:33 2020:

Last one to crank up the generator and tube radio is a rotten egg.


#4 of 122 by walkman on Mon Mar 30 18:41:01 2020:

#3

#2 was qanon chatting from various sources. About a year or so ago I
came to the conclusion that Q was disinfo meant to keep conservatives
happy and content. Frogs in the simmering pan. There's always something
in the back of my head that says, "but what if it's true." It doesn't
hurt to stuff a few radios and phones into a Mission Darkness bag and
download some extra books and movies just in case. If they are wrong,
the little voice in the back of my head will say, "it's been 4 years
bitches! nothing!!!"


#5 of 122 by lar on Mon Mar 30 18:57:27 2020:

Covid19 is like a move in the game "Nomic"  The Hegelian dialectic at 
work.


#6 of 122 by tod on Mon Mar 30 21:27:29 2020:

re #4
Preppers Paradise
It's like the Lollaplooza for tinfoil hats season.  Maybe this will
be annual?

re #5
I had to look that up - almost thought it was a Grey's Anatomy naughty 
reference
It this the relationship between Wallach and Eastwood in Fistful of Dollars?


#7 of 122 by cross on Tue Mar 31 14:20:45 2020:

The paranoia is awesome.

This is just more deadly than H1N1.


#8 of 122 by tod on Tue Mar 31 17:10:20 2020:

If people would stop gobbling ibuprofen (Aleve) then they might not
die so much.  That's what the stats are showing.  
Largest pharma in the the world taking a gut punch..wonder how long til
they go back up to $21/share


#9 of 122 by tod on Wed Apr 1 02:56:57 2020:

How's this for a conspiracy -
Americans will have to vote by ballot
Most of the polling places are run by the left


#10 of 122 by walkman on Thu Apr 2 10:49:39 2020:

Is it a "conspiracy theory" to determine that the Covid-19 crisis is 
an excuse to defile American's civil liberties after hearing about 
police patrols, stay in place orders, cell phone surveillance and the 
domestic use of a military plane outfitted to scan large areas from 
the skies?

https://tinyurl.com/t8pryem

#9 Right. How will political partisans use the crisis? We can see 
government. Biggest pork roll-outs in years. We are handed the bill. 
What about private industry? We see stock manipulation. What about 
private individuals? Cities inflating numbers to get more funding. 
Media running scare porn 247. Alternative press saying it's not real. 
Mainstream media saying it's 100x worse than it is. Fear, lies, 
manipulation, robbery, control, race to the bottom. 

"It is the individual's ability to deal with the unexpected that 
characterizes the difference between success and failure." ~ Ross 
Perot

There are always winners and losers in a large paradigm shift. I 
believe that the reaction to this virus by government, media, 
corporations, non-profits, you name it will become a playbook and that 
we are going to see more Covid-19s in the near future. The losers are 
the regular people with jobs. They are going to get fleeced and 
controlled. "Don't look at your 401ks." "Masks won't help you but 
nurses urgently need masks." The lies and manipulation are surrounding 
us. 



#11 of 122 by tod on Thu Apr 2 18:20:29 2020:

Do you know a hard-working public servant with an exceptional dedication to
improving and invigorating government? Then nominate them for the 2020 NextGen
Public Service Awards!

Were committed to recognizing the best and brightest in government,
particularly when so many government employees are working on the front lines
of an international crisis.

Nominations are to be submitted online from April 1 - April 30, 2020, and the
10 winners will be announced on June 1, 2020.


#12 of 122 by cross on Thu Apr 2 19:20:32 2020:

THE UNIVERSE IS IN PLAY!!!


#13 of 122 by tod on Fri Apr 3 03:16:55 2020:

Front lines of an international crisis

Valuable prizes


#14 of 122 by walkman on Fri Apr 3 17:39:40 2020:

Harvard University Professor and Two Chinese Nationals Charged in Three 
Separate China Related Cases

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-
chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related


#15 of 122 by tod on Sat Apr 4 14:45:30 2020:

re #14
It's all over the place in the tech sector.


#16 of 122 by walkman on Tue Apr 7 11:32:35 2020:

Brand new SUVs in miles long food bank line in Florida.
I spotted a new Camero too. America's welfare state is gold plated.
Air conditioning, new iphone, cable tv, internet, new cars, food line.
https://tinyurl.com/sco26h5



#17 of 122 by walkman on Tue Apr 7 11:36:27 2020:

Grocery store workers are dying of COVID-19.

The real shit show starts when the grocery stores close. 
https://tinyurl.com/wabsrtl

I only have 3 boxes of ammo... F

Forget toilet paper when there's no hot pockets in the freezer.
Millennials will rise from their basements and start caring.

PS as far as hand sanitizer shortages go, why not put a bottle of liquid
 hand soap and a few water bottles in your car? 


#18 of 122 by tod on Tue Apr 7 18:29:58 2020:

re #16
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/04/06/20/26879220-8193153-image-a-14_158
6200
518972.jpg

NICE wheels!
Give me my green beans!


#19 of 122 by walkman on Tue Apr 7 23:35:26 2020:

#18

Honorable people buy food and drive a hoopty rather than get welfare and
drive an Infinity. Honor is in short supply.


#20 of 122 by tod on Wed Apr 8 00:03:24 2020:

re #19
And then there's those who prey on the dishonorable people.
Looking to see how I can sell a selfie stick with designer mask maker kit.


#21 of 122 by tod on Wed Apr 8 20:53:42 2020:

The media is saying 18 months more quarantine in the USA.
What do you think?  Are we in for another 12 months of this?
We have a senior graduating HS this year.  It's going to be 
very uneventful for him if we're stuck at home.


#22 of 122 by lar on Wed Apr 8 21:34:57 2020:

It'll be over the 1st of May


#23 of 122 by tod on Thu Apr 9 03:12:48 2020:

1st of May will be COVID20 with a different power adapter


#24 of 122 by walkman on Thu Apr 9 12:18:06 2020:

#21 There will be nothing left of the global economy if the quarantine 
lasts past June. 18 months is just fear porn/hysteria.

In the end, money talks. The narrative will change 180 degrees by mid-
May to "lets get out there and spend!"

The jobless, job-insecure, corporations, governments won't tolerate 
this much longer, even in the face of death and disease. 


#25 of 122 by tod on Thu Apr 9 12:28:47 2020:

re #24
Teh jobless will vote for Biden & Harris to "fix it"
Present day house arrest will look like a field trip compared to the
yolk that's coming.


#26 of 122 by tod on Thu Apr 9 12:30:30 2020:

Yoke


#27 of 122 by walkman on Thu Apr 9 21:39:13 2020:

Wife told to report to work May 4.


#28 of 122 by walkman on Fri Apr 10 00:26:47 2020:

500,000 plastic coffins.
Looks like 3-4 bodies could fit in each one.
Flashback: "The CDC is leasing this land"

https://tinyurl.com/vt4s5p4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zSDdm-SHI&list=PL6nsQ805w_9v-LEUtxz39mO
3yiYbnjTSs&index=4

2009 H1N1 Pandemic didn't produce what it was supposed to?

PS He's called for depopulation but he's really concerned about viruses?
Another flashback. Gates is all about forced vaccinations and pandemics.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Af6b_wyiwI


#29 of 122 by tod on Fri Apr 10 00:32:01 2020:

re #28
Amateurs ;)
https://www.nytimes.com/1991/01/16/us/confrontation-gulf-war-supplies-somb
er-w
orkers-press-fill-rush-order-for-body.html


#30 of 122 by walkman on Fri Apr 10 15:30:04 2020:

The media likes to say "the new normal" regarding lockdowns, death,
quarantine, sickness, devastated economic conditions, police
checkpoints, people turning in their neighbors.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=media+says+new+normal&t=canonical&ia=web

I reject it 100%. 
The new normal is the old normal. 
For thousands of years, quarantine meant corralling off the sick. 
Now the healthy are being quarantined and the world has grinded to a
halt. 35-80k people die in the United States each year of the regular
flu. If these control freaks are going to react this way over every
viral threat, I suspect they want to lock humanity down and tame it. It
won't end well. The turning point will be on April 30 when States
decided to extend or end the "stay at home" orders. 


#31 of 122 by tod on Fri Apr 10 23:51:22 2020:

I see alot of people not social distancing.  Too many.
The stupid people are the majority.


#32 of 122 by walkman on Sun Apr 12 12:18:54 2020:

I saw on the news that Kroger workers are now dying. 
Seriously made me sad. 
I have been there as a human being - trapped with low income, not having
many choices. Knowing I had to work a menial job to make it to the next
level, knowing there were no other options but being a State parasite
(no thank you). People are literally dying to serve Americans processed
food designed to make them unhealthy. Get me off the hamster treadmill!


#33 of 122 by walkman on Sun Apr 12 16:10:28 2020:

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#34 of 122 by tod on Sun Apr 12 19:09:36 2020:

...A wise prince should be willing to be more reputed a miser than be 
hated for trying to be too generous.

On the other hand: "of what is not yours or your subjects'" one can be a 
bigger giver...

-Machiavelli


#35 of 122 by walkman on Fri Apr 17 16:39:33 2020:

Any proposed correlation between Communist China funding American
universities and this article is fake news/debunked/fact checked.

Don't connect those dots you dirty tinfoil wearing conspiracy theorist. 

Take this article at face value. The virus didn't originate in Wuhan. 
It wasn't created in a weapons lab!
https://tinyurl.com/ycagnozm

The establishment will tell us what is real and what isn't.
Now clap your hands for the dancing nurses on the tic toc video.
#comply #resistanceisfutile


#36 of 122 by tod on Fri Apr 17 20:38:26 2020:

One of my alumni assn's hitting me up for more cash with this..

--
This month, we were able to give extra help to one of the scholarship
students, a working mother of two who was laid off last month due to COVID-19
and could not pay her portion of her 3rd-course fees. 

All through the year, we receive messages of gratitude from our scholarship
students. The scholarship program is changing lives and thats thanks to you.
This note is from scholarship awardee, xxxxxx:

Dear Scholarship Donor,

I am honored to be one of the recipients of the xxxxxxxxxx Scholarship
award. Thanks to your generosity, I have been able to participate in the Data 
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, continue my education and learn new skills
that are having great impact on my career.

As a first-generation immigrant from Vietnam and a main financial support to
my mother, this scholarship has helped me gain new skills while avoiding more
financial stress on my shoulders.

I am already using new skills and techniques learned in the first two courses
to increase efficiency in my work and resolve data discrepancies for my team.
I have been given more projects related to sales data analysis in my role as
an assistant buyer/merchandiser.

--

 ..is it wrong to wonder what's up with that scholarship allocation when 
in my mind "scholar" is typically about academic achievement above
and beyond in this particular field?


#37 of 122 by walkman on Thu Jun 25 22:46:36 2020:

Now that the coverage of the Marxist uprising is waning, Covid-19
numbers are suddenly and mysteriously skyrocketing despite the fact that
until a week ago they were way down. They told us in April there would
be a second wave. This one is right on schedule. 

Ask yourself why America has many times the number of Corona infected
than any other country. China has 84k cases. America has 2.4 million,
despite having a fraction of China's population. Is it that we are more
honest with numbers, counting people that aren't sick for political
reasons or because Americans are more vulnerable to it? I'm calling
bullshit.  https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html


#38 of 122 by tod on Mon Jun 29 16:57:36 2020:

One friend had a stroke from the 105F temp day 2 of the virus.
Another friend bit the dust.
Another one...she's AWOL - maybe in ER or also gone.
The numbers in the U.S. are BELOW the real count.
China? They LIE.  They infect.  They EAT DOGS.


#39 of 122 by walkman on Mon Jun 29 23:32:11 2020:

Sorry to hear about your friends. Yikes! I don't know anyone who had it
or has it - that I know of. 

Enslaving people and eating dogs...not a good culture.
After all, the party is the culture. They (CCP) make anecdotal claims
about banning vile things but obviously it goes on everywhere. Lip
service. The wet market itself is sickening and vile. 

I know people get more upset about that than knowing that Uighurs and
Falun Gong are having their organs harvested and are enslaved in
factories that make Chinese exports. 

Americans need to make better choices when it comes to buying things. I
try in vain to not buy China. The only way to tell American corporations
to stop enabling slavery and destroying American jobs is to vote with
the dollar. I know - captain obvious here. But it needs to be repeated.


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