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Grex Agora Item 3: Grex System Announcements - Fall 2015/Winter 2016
Entered by cfadm on Thu Dec 31 16:40:40 UTC 2015:

This item is for system announcements (new computer equipment on Grex,
system upgrades, Grex meetings, etc.).  Personal announcements should go
back in item 2; Grex system *problems* belong in the next item (#4).

54 responses total.



#1 of 54 by gelinas on Thu Jan 14 19:03:51 2016:

Well, it's the ultimate day of the election. If you've not yet voted, you have
until 23:59 EST.


#2 of 54 by gelinas on Fri Jan 15 13:33:35 2016:

The votes have now been counted.  cross, kentn and tod each received one vote
from members.  cross received two non-member votes, while kentn and tod each
received one non-member vote.
 
So cross, tod, and kentn have each been elected to a two-year term as a
Director of Cyberspace Communications, Inc. There is one Directorship
vacant.



#3 of 54 by walkman on Fri Jan 15 20:53:22 2016:

Call to action for Sindi.


#4 of 54 by kentn on Sat Jan 16 15:09:02 2016:

I've installed the "par" paragraph formatter on Grex.  If you've used the
"fmt" text formatter, "par" can do the same thing and a lot more.  For
example, you can set it up to understand comments so that reformatting
comments works like you'd expect.
 
For example, if you had comments in code like these and wanted to reformat
them to a wider width:

      # Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet,
      # consectetur adipiscing
      # elit. Nulla consequat, ipsum
      # sit amet placerat blandit, nisi
      # eros interdum nunc, sit amet
      # facilisis enim est nec neque. In
      # venenatis, odio sit amet eleifend

Using fmt, you might get:

      # Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, # consectetur adipiscing # elit.
      Nulla consequat, ipsum # sit amet placerat blandit, nisi #
      eros interdum nunc, sit amet # facilisis enim est nec neque.
      In # venenatis, odio sit amet eleifend

with the comment characters embededded in the resulting formatted
paragraph.

Using par, you'd get:

      # Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Nulla
      # consequat, ipsum sit amet placerat blandit, nisi eros interdum
      # nunc, sit amet facilisis enim est nec neque. In venenatis, odio
      # sit amet eleifend

Because par can handle comments appropriately, it brings the comment
characters to the beginning of each line. This is real handy for
programmers doing comments.  Par also handles hanging indents correctly
(if you have text with 2 or more indented lines).  There are lots of
options to par.  See the man page, which includes a number of "before
and after" examples of what par can do.

I'm using the vim text editor to filter these paragraphs through the
formatter program (with !}fmt or !}par).  You can run other amounts
of text through these formatters, using the appropriate text objects.
Mostly, I use par to format paragraphs of comments. par is not specific
to vi or vim, so can work from the command line or in other editors
or applications.



#5 of 54 by tod on Mon Jan 18 22:34:17 2016:

Thanks kent!
Does it default par to 80 col?
..


#6 of 54 by kentn on Tue Jan 19 04:47:35 2016:

I've used it for bbs responses and it seems to work okay (lines
aren't too long). The default seems to be more like 70 or 75.
You can try 'par 80' and see.  It probably still won't format to
exactly 80 characters by default.

It tries, generally, to format the lines into something that
looks reasonable, so a lot depends on how much text there is
to format, in addition to whatever default or specified width
there is.  Since it won't go over the line length specified, and
it has to break on word boundaries, the lines end up no longer
than the width specified and are sometimes quite a bit shorter,
depending on the length of the words you use and where they land
in relation to end of each line.


#7 of 54 by walkman on Tue Jan 19 21:15:59 2016:

I'm not a programmer but that looks very useful. 


#8 of 54 by kentn on Sun Sep 25 15:42:57 2016:

I'd like to announce that I'm still successfully able to use the
MindTerm java terminal to connect to Grex.  It takes a several extra
clicks to let your browser and Java know you are aware the connection
may not be secure, etc.  But after that, it worked for me, using Firefox
v48.  This may be an alternative for those who cannot install a terminal
such as PuTTY to connect, or for connecting via a tablet for cellphone
(if you don't have a terminal app installed there).  A lot depends on
how picky your browser is about running Java applications. YMMV.


    https://grex.org/mindterm/applet.html


#9 of 54 by tonster on Thu Oct 20 14:11:55 2016:

Sorry for the downtime overnight. I'm having to migrate VM's around to
different hardware, and Grex was moved to the new system. Please let me
know if there are any issues noticed with this.


#10 of 54 by kentn on Sat Oct 22 16:27:44 2016:

Thanks for the update, Tony. 


#11 of 54 by tod on Thu Oct 27 17:43:26 2016:

re #9
Are you using VCenter Express?


#12 of 54 by walkman on Tue Nov 1 13:09:59 2016:

#9 So far so good.


#13 of 54 by tonster on Wed Nov 2 03:06:05 2016:

resp:11: I was using vcenter (full version) previously, but I'm now
running xenserver as my vcenter and vsphere licenses are all expiring.
:(


#14 of 54 by tod on Sun Nov 6 21:52:30 2016:

re #13
 :(
Do you need a license for arbornet or grex?
Whats the cost of vsphere?
How much was full vcenter?


#15 of 54 by kentn on Sat Dec 10 17:37:52 2016:

The "tree" command is now installed on grex.  This presents a
text tree listing of files in a directory structure.  The output
looks like this:
 
   /var/tmp> tree
   .
   |-- pw.3DHUshDcN0
   |-- pw.tOK6iWCz5D
   `-- vi.recover
       |-- recover.cLdYADPwjG
       `-- vi.FTHZBkBpFx
   
   1 directory, 4 files



#16 of 54 by keesan on Tue Dec 13 17:48:24 2016:

Is there any app for old feature phones with java that will ssh to grex? 
midpssh would not work for me.


#17 of 54 by tod on Fri Jan 6 02:29:54 2017:

re #15
Coool, thanks Kent

re #16
I used to get to grex via blackberry java ssh


#18 of 54 by keesan on Mon Jan 9 04:52:19 2017:

I don't have a blackberry phone.  midpssh is a java app.  
I found an ssh app for palm that works but the font is so miniscule it is
useless.  Could not find settings.  pssh.


#19 of 54 by tod on Mon Jan 9 18:18:40 2017:

To make the Linux prompt and command output readable, you can increase the
Font size. From the MidPSSH menu -> Select Settings -> Select Fonts and set
the following values accordingly as shown in the Fig below.

Font Size: Tiny, Device, LCD 36 etc. By default Tiny is selected. Changed this
to Device.
LCD Font Mode: RBG or BGR.
Foreground Color
Background Color



#20 of 54 by keesan on Tue Jan 10 04:27:31 2017:

It is pssh that is too tiny to read.  Midpssh simple would not work for me.
I think I got a white screen.  Does it work on your java-based phone

I just got an email forwarded (because of its size) from
Administrator@cyberspace.org telling me to run the attached zip file to update
my Web Mail certificate.   As far as I know we have no webmail. 
'Download and launch file'.  I suppose I could print out the characters in
it and make it into a paper boat and launch that.  


#21 of 54 by walkman on Thu Jan 12 19:03:52 2017:

I was down in middle-earth and my ram's horn did not call the elven
figures  or the frost giants. 


#22 of 54 by kentn on Fri Jan 13 12:18:21 2017:

Grex administrators will not ask you for your password or have you
install downloaded files.  We can reset your password for you.

Do not open any attached files in spam e-mails.  The vast majority of
them contain viruses and other malware.  Be careful of attached files
in e-mails you did expect to receive, too.  Don't click on links in
e-mails, either, for the same reason.

And no, we don't have web mail on Grex.


#23 of 54 by keesan on Tue Jan 17 13:36:48 2017:

I can't open them with pine or mutt anyway.  Just wanted to let grex admin
know about this spam.
Grex outgoing mails are being blocked by both Barracuda (includes SBC) and
Yahoo (includes ebay, Nextdoor, ecycle, frontier, and half my friends).
Same with sdf mails, for at least the past week.  Can someone at least fill
out the form at Barracuda to unblock us?  I am using fastmail as a backup but
they plan to drop support for non-javascript browsers.  


#24 of 54 by cross on Sat Jan 21 01:27:23 2017:

We're not really in a position to support email anymore. There are better
alternatives, such as getting a GMail account and talking to it using imap
or something.


#25 of 54 by keesan on Sat Jan 21 15:24:30 2017:

I normally use sdf, with grex as a backup for bad-yahoo days.  Grex is rarely
blocked by yahoo.  


#26 of 54 by tonster on Sun Jan 22 04:25:28 2017:

resp:14: Far too much to buy for my needs. I didn't purchase it before,
I had a license from when I worked at vmware. Sadly, I no longer do. :( 


In other news, it seems I've just paid for another 2 years of grex's
domain names. Happy New Year!

In related news, does anyone know why we're paying for private
registration? Seems like a silly expense, even if it is only $10/yr.


#27 of 54 by cross on Sun Jan 22 09:15:39 2017:

No idea; seems kind of wasteful to me.


#28 of 54 by tod on Wed Jan 25 01:33:19 2017:

re #26
Generous, thanks!


#29 of 54 by walkman on Wed Feb 1 17:53:53 2017:

Can you hear me?


#30 of 54 by cross on Wed Feb 1 19:27:02 2017:

No.


#31 of 54 by papa on Wed Feb 1 22:33:36 2017:

See me
Feel me
Touch me
Heal me
-- Peter Townsend (NOT "Hear me")


#32 of 54 by commodorejohn on Thu Feb 2 17:43:33 2017:

 Fly like a song, fly while you're singing
 A song without you is a bird without winging
 Some city flights leave in the morning
 Some city nights end without warning
 Can you hear me call?
-- Betty Thatcher (Renaissance)


#33 of 54 by tod on Tue Feb 7 00:41:13 2017:

You didn't need
To do that to me
 .


#34 of 54 by walkman on Wed Feb 8 00:36:42 2017:

Come on and touch me
When we're dancing
You know you've got that loving touch
(Loving touch)


#35 of 54 by kentn on Thu May 18 03:13:06 2017:

If you didn't notice from the Grex problems item, Dan Cross upgraded Grex's OpenBSD to version 6.1. Grex was inaccessible for a few days during this process. Many applications have been updated to newer versions. If something is missing or not working right, post about it in the problems item and let staff know.


#36 of 54 by cross on Sat May 20 02:22:42 2017:

FYI: I've rewritten the `menu` shell. As far as the user interface is
concerned, this version is a more-or-less faithful recreation of the
previous version, though there are some minor differences in some of
the details.

This version is written in `go`; the older version was written in C and
was something of a nightmare.


#37 of 54 by cross on Mon May 22 02:50:49 2017:

FYI: I'm going to write about Grex a little bit in the `agorage` conference
(conf:agorage). Check it out if you're interested. Or don't.


#38 of 54 by papa on Wed May 9 04:21:20 2018:

"conf:" is a neat trick, like "resp:".

Are there any other tags like that we can put in bt posts? References to
to responses in other items and items in other conferences would be us
useful.

Are such tags documented anywhere? I've searched the bt documentation 
on unixpapa.com but haven't found anything.


#39 of 54 by tonster on Fri Sep 21 04:00:06 2018:

There will be downtime tomorrow as I attempt to migrate Grex to
different hardware. I need to repurpose the hardware Grex is currently
running on, and need to figure out a way to move the VM. 


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