raemo i am over here.

j accordion

(on the well it would be g accordion)

103 responses total.

The management apologizes for consonant shifts, hopes raemo finds his dog.

        Who wrote this new pseudo thingy???  I figure someone has to ask at
some point...

Psuedos arn't new. They've always been available. At the "Respond or
pass?" prompt you could type "psuedo" or "ps" and it would ask for the
name you wanted to use. It just defaults to that today because of certain
date related things.....

HUH? WHO? DOH!! oops, wrong item. . .

        See above...

we know who did it.
so does raemo

Can we vote on whether to change the newuser default
from j agora to j accordion?

furst we must MUST MUST locate raemo.

otherwise, the Humdogian Throne will go unguarded...

 
 
Re #7, indeed you can!  Two routes to go: ask that it be put on the board
agenda for a vote, or have a member (i.e. $$ donor) request a membership-
wide referendum on the issue...any member can call for such a vote after
a two-week discussion period in the co-op conference.
 
How about changing the name of Grex to Humdogia, while you're at it?
 
 

Good idea. 


 <now linked to j accordion>

Good idea.  I vote yes.

hmmmmmm

I strongly object to directing new users to accordion.
Agora is the commons.  New users should go there.  Most
important of all, it would be very rude to dump new
users in accordion without *some* warning.

we think that we agree with the sexy mr. klyne.
furthermore, we would not persons approaching the Humdogian Throne
randomly, or without proper appreciation for our August and
Obnoxious Presence.  also, until raemo gets here, we are not
really Prepared to receive strangers....

......then if you have raemo, "mistress", may I invitge the
princeling?

Good point.  Dumping new users in here would be like putting the throne room
right by the castle gate.

How on EARTH do I get word wrap on this godforsaken machine?

You can add a couple of lines to your .cfonce saying
define editor pico
set edalways

That'll work, but then the wellians will have to ^XY their way back to
picospan after each response. They're not use to that.
We really should put word wrap into the picospan text collector
so they'll stop grumbling.

WHO is the princeling?
do you speak of the Demon PRince?

Marcus has spoiled us at the Well -- even techno idiots (dumb but cute,
like me can play without 
stumbling. And doesn't that make for a lot more fun? (C'mon -- admit it,
Grexers, you like having us around!)

 
 
  C'mon, manually hitting carriage returns has a nostalgic 19th century
typewriter kind of charm.  Though even then they probably had bells
ding at the end of a line.
 
 

   Think of hitting CR everyonce in a while as way or kicking
Grex's Internet link back into action.  If you don't kick Grex
won't play.

Steve, could you please re-post the information
about joining grex? Some of us feel its the least 
we could do after all your kind hospitality!

   You can type  !support  for info on supporting Grex.  I think you
can also type  !faq   for even more info on Grex.

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Well, he's kind of an asshole, so who knows what he'd say.  But a 
flaky asshole, which means it might be worth asking -- what the hell.

It may even be worth it if it *does* cost.

yes.
but a well-dressed asshole.

I find it hard to believe that the text collector would be very hard to clone.
But I've never seen it, so I don't know.  But I presume it just runs in
cbreak mode, auto-wraps on the fly and lets you do some : editing commands
at the start of lines.  Hmmm....can you backspace into a previous line?
Annoying if not.  But the only easy way to support that is with curses and
that pretty much forces you to clear the screen before you start entering
text, which is even more annoying.

I once started writing a friendly text editor.  It's main odd attribute was
not to clear the screen when it started up.  It would print a one line
menu in standout mode, then put your cursor on a new line under it.  You could
start typing right under the menu line, with previous text scrolling up the
screen until the menu bar hit the top of the screen after which it would act
like a normal editor, keeping the menu bar there.  At any stage, even when
only part of the screen is used by the editor, you could move around with
arrow keys (but not up past the menu bar) and edit in the usual way.  But
"pico" showed up before I had written more than the basic skeleton, and the
general urgency for a friendly editor faded.  If I wanted to do something like
that now, I'd probably start by looking at the pico source and seeing if I
can hack the features I want into that.  Probably it would be hard, because
I bet pico uses curses, and curses always wants to grab the whole screen
when it starts up.

we don't necessarily want a friendly anything.
we just want something to log on to in less than 40 minutes.

Heck, all I wanted was auto-wrap.  

Auto-wrap should not be too hard to program.

Odd, I've been thinking for a while about writing an editor with
exactly the features Jan describes in #29.  Haven't gotten around to
it, obviously.  He's right, you couldn't use curses & would have to use
the termcap library directly to do screen control.

Another approach would be to use a special-purpose pager that works
with your special-purpose editor.  The pager would save text in a
temporary file while you're reading it; the editor would have two
windows -- one that's read-only and displays the temporary file, the
other for your response.  That would allow you to scroll back through
the text you're responding to.  It's probably do-able with emacs --
wouldn't have to write a new editor.  (Emacs is a bit too resource-
intensive for Grex's current hardware, though.)

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oh, YES! do it, do it, do it! And please hurry!

Heck, I'd be happy with a bell sound at col. 70... That ought to be pretty
easy, right?

  <g>...personally, I think a simple line-wrapper would be preferable
to a full-screen editor as a default for new users (a bell might be ok
if more pcs & terminals had volume knobs :-).  It's nice to be able to
see the last couple responses as you're typing.

For those of us in netlag land, nothing could be more useless than a bell
at column 70.

the bellthing is a joke, i think.


                ("heh, heh, Rainman made a joke...)

OK, only a bell at 70 for dialins.

A bell at 30 for telnets.
Happy?

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