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Item 435 Mon, Nov 21, 1994 (23:14) (std)
The Tom Waits item (Punk rock kid)
I love Tom Waits. The man is a great composer, musician, and ohhhh...
what a rad voice! Please enter cool things about Tom Waits in this item
(and if anyone can give me a copy of 'Frank's Wild Years please let me know)
15 responses total.
1 of 15 Tue, Nov 22, 1994 (08:54) (tod) Todd Plesco
Tom Waits in the corner while Nick Cave shoots up his profit from
Natural Born Killers..
2 of 15 Tue, Nov 22, 1994 (17:15) (silvers) I look like Kurt
tom waits is cool
ever see the video for i don't wanna grow up?
3 of 15 Wed, Nov 23, 1994 (09:18) (jor) John O'Reilly
I saw it recently. I thought I was hallucinating: Sir Thomas
on MTV? Then I realized how funny it was.
Sorry, my copy of Frank's Wild Years stays in the vault.
I could make you a cassette copy.
4 of 15 Wed, Nov 23, 1994 (09:46) (rmc) Silent Red
Tom Waits for no one...
5 of 15 Wed, Nov 23, 1994 (10:06) (jor) John O'Reilly
Message 3:
Subject: Tom Waits
From: jor@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (John O'Reilly)
To: jor@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us, polygon@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
Greetings polygon,
Did you express interest in the TOP 10 about Tom Waits? Or
were you interested in Doritos? I can dig out the articles
I clipped and type in info . . but I'm new to GOONing M-net
and not sure about starting an item.
Hang on St. Christopher
thru the smoke and the oil
buckle down the rumble seat
let the radiator boil
Message 4:
Subject: Tom Waits
From: jor@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (John O'Reilly)
To: jor@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us, polygon@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
Larry I just looked at your bio and with musical tates ranging
from Tom Waits to J. S. Bach I guess I'm convinced
it wasn't Doritos you were interested in.
About ten years ago I read in an interview with Young Tom
(I have a pile of them here, I can't sort thru to find which
interview in which article, they're mostly from Detroit,
Ann Arbor, and Los Angeles papers . . yes I have pulled
my Tom Waits file. I'm not joking.) where he said he
was glad people like his music, etc., and it was nice
to have some success and recognition, etc., BUT . .
he had gotten so little commercial radio airplay,
that he had never heard himself on the radio.
But then he was driving across the country, and somewhere
in Nebraska or somewhere he caught some college station
playing him and tried to tune it in but it just faded out
into radio static. And he was bummed out, he had almost
got to listen to himself on the radio.
So imagine my surprise when about three years ago I heard him
singing on a Doritos commercial. I wasn't sure what to
think . . was he that desperate? Was it good for him to
have some commercial success and recognition? Hmm.
Detroit Free Press, 4/14/90:
Singer Tom Waits testified in Los Angeles that he was
shocked, embarrassed, and "angry, very angry" the first
time he heard a corn chip radio jingle that imitated
his voice. Waits is suing Frito-Lay for $4 million,
claiming the company illegally impersonated his voice,
in an ad campaign for a new corn chip, the Salsa Rio
Dorito. Waits lawyers cite a 1988 case in which Bette
Midler successfully sued Ford for using a sound alike
on a commercial. An attorney for Frito-Lay and it's
ad agency said the gravelly, jazzy voice used in the
commercial was like that of many performers, not
just Waits.
Right. Waits isn't special or anything. I belive I saw that
the settlement was for $1 million in hard cash paid to
Sir Thomas, but I can't find that article right now.
"Wasted, and wounded,
It ain't what the moon did"
JOR
Message 5:
From: polygon@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (Mercy on the Mourners)
To: jor@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
To jor ... re Tom Waits ...
Yes, I'm a Tom Waits guy from way back. *Many* thanks for the info. I
envy your Waits file. I do have a file system myself, and any articles
on TW that I see have gone into a big fat Music folder, but I haven't
been reading/clipping papers too consistently. Not to mention the huge
backlog of "to be filed" stuff.
I've remarked on the absence of Waits from practically any radio play
whatsoever (I think I heard one cut on WVBR, the Cornell student station).
Radio people just shrug. Of course, this has made him more of an under-
ground rather than a big pop culture sort of figure.
Another interesting sidelight: try asking about Waits at any used record
store anywhere. They'll laugh at you, since anything of his sells out in
nothing flat. I guess the kind of person who prowls used record stores is
very likely to also be the kind of person who listens to Tom Waits.
I've seen Waits in concert once, it was around 1981 or so at the Royal
Oak Music Theater. I asked along a woman I'd met in school; I guess that
was a mistake, since she never spoke to me again!
Another M-Nut who's shown some interest/knowledge about Tom Waits is Mike
O'Connell (login welder).
-Larry-
6 of 15 Wed, Nov 23, 1994 (12:48) (shf) S.H. Fox
Waits was on Letterman some years ago and was great. WDET plays him
sometimes, mostly on Martin Bandyke's show.
7 of 15 Wed, Nov 23, 1994 (16:22) (std) Punk rock kid
Woah...I'm listening to Big Black Mariah right now.
Thanks for rad waits info. I really liked that song he did for Black
Rider where he got William Burroughs to sing...his voice echoes
experiences... like a bitter old man. That's just what I thought of when I
heard it.
8 of 15 Wed, Nov 23, 1994 (17:44) (jor) John O'Reilly
I do have a follow up article where the California Supreme court ruled,
on appeal, that the Frito Banditos pay Sir Thomas One Cool Mill.
9 of 15 Thu, Nov 24, 1994 (10:30) (tpryan) Tim P. Ryan
Might hear some Tom Waits on that new format for 93.9fm, "The River".
I thought I heard his name mentioned in one of their self-promotion
spots.
10 of 15 Thu, Dec 15, 1994 (16:18) (polygon) Lawrence Kestenbaum
Wow, jor, I'm impressed that you saved our little exchange from
way back. That saves me from having to type in that stuff over again!
Did anyone ever send for the words to "Step Right Up"? The album
had a funny little promo to send "3 dead creeping charlies and a
picture of yourself" (or something like that). Creeping charlie is
ground ivy; I'd have sent the thing in with a campaign poster from
one of my county commission races -- but it was winter, and no ground
ivy to be found. I never got around to it.
11 of 15 Thu, Dec 15, 1994 (18:31) (jor) John O'Reilly
My liner, with the lyrics, from that LP, has gone AWOL. Sob.
But I remember seeing him live and there were more X-rated lyrics
than on the record . . "I'll sell you a rat's a**hole for a
wedding ring . ."
12 of 15 Fri, Dec 16, 1994 (05:08) (obsidian) Hose me down with
holywater
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lab lob otomy(!?)
13 of 15 Sat, Dec 17, 1994 (13:39) (std) Punk rock kid
Here's our terriffic motto's
Lab Lob Otomy: Adult assembly required.
Lab Lob Otomy: Use only as directed.
First there was plant, then there was man, now there's Lab Lob Otomy
Lab Lob Otomy, the hottest band in north america.
Lab Lob Otomy, you must have used budge.
14 of 15 Sat, Dec 24, 1994 (22:50) (obsidian) I sound like Susanna
Hoffs
Cool! B)
15 of 15 Mon, Feb 6, 1995 (14:39) (jor) John O'Reilly
Martin BanDyke just announced that Holly Cole is currently recording
a tribute to Waits, due for release in Spring '95.
std (Ground control to Major Tom)
Response 3 of 18 Fri, Jun 30, 1995 (16:08)
I have a fear of Tom Waits now.
i can never listen to him again.
Because I told this guy in the diag I liked Tom Waits.
This guy was OBSESSED with tom waits.
he wanted to come back to my house and see my CD collection.
He was weird.
And scary.
obsidian (Beethoven was deaf)
Response 4 of 18 Fri, Jun 30, 1995 (19:50)
wowah
x (drugs against war)
Response 5 of 18 Sat, Jul 1, 1995 (08:47)
did tom waits have any bit parts in any random movies?
i don't know what tom waits looks like, but there's a tiny part
in the movie "the outsiders" played by a "tom waits" and i was
wondering if it was the same guy.
jor (John O'Reilly)
Response 6 of 18 Sat, Jul 1, 1995 (15:32)
yep. not sure about that one. he's been in about a half dozen movies.
sybil (Richard S. Drake)
Response 7 of 18 Sat, Jul 1, 1995 (16:34)
Most prominently in "Bram Stoker's Dracula".
obsidian (Beethoven was deaf)
Response 8 of 18 Sat, Jul 1, 1995 (16:54)
yeah, he was that guy that wanted to eat a live cat. I remember now,
std (Ground control to Major Tom)
Response 9 of 18 Sun, Jul 2, 1995 (19:51)
Yeah! That was him?
Rad!!!!
He had a part in "short cuts"
He played this really depressing character...
But all the characters he plays are really depressing.
duff (easily amused)
Response 10 of 18 Wed, Jul 12, 1995 (13:53)
One of my favorite Tom Waits roles was in Jim Jarmusch's Down By Law.
Roberto Benigno's performance in the same film was also wonderful.
Rent it or miss out.
std (Ground control to Major Tom)
Response 11 of 18 Wed, Jul 12, 1995 (16:48)
I liked him i neerything ever
Tom d00d! Tom!
/
jor (John O'Reilly)
Response 12 of 18 Sun, Jul 16, 1995 (17:50)
Ground Control to Major STD
jor (John O'Reilly)
Response 13 of 18 Fri, Aug 4, 1995 (13:03)
They have been playing the new Holly Cole record on WDET.
It's all tunes by Waits.
happyboy (Allah the Sudden)
Response 14 of 18 Sun, Jan 28, 1996 (03:48)
i saw tom at the power center in the late 80s my old girlfriend snuck a
gallon of cheap red in. a "bouncer saw us gurgling & didn't seem to care.
tom had a bandage on his hand because of punching a cabbie, he said.
he also said he couldn't find an adult wigs & noelties store and
"perhaps that is something you should take into consideration as a community"
sonnet (Starflyer 59 --->)
Response 15 of 18 Sun, Feb 25, 1996 (17:35)
Wow wow.
Down here in Moline, Il, Tom Waits has zero following.
Aside from me and my father.
I love Nighthawks at a Diner.
Frank's Wild Years was cool, along with Swordfish Trombone.
Wowie zowie.
lippy (Vanessa Firnhaber-Baker)
Response 16 of 18 Fri, May 10, 1996 (22:57) <response to #3>
heh, memories.
tom!!
no6 (Scott Helmke)
Response 17 of 18 Fri, May 17, 1996 (19:20)
Ah yes, Tom Waits. I'm a big fan, but more of his recent (Swordfishtrombones
and later).
He also appears in the movie Rumblefish, playing the pool hall manager,
and in some film I can't recall the name of where he plays an inept
hit man, trying to smuggle diamonds inside a horse across the border.
std (Fuck Tower Records)
Response 18 of 18 Thu, May 30, 1996 (14:55)
Down By Law
^Z
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