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mcnally
response 99 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 21:59 UTC 2002

  There was a severe late-season frost which decimated the cherry crop.
mcnally
response 100 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 22:00 UTC 2002

  (re #99:  actually, I suppose "decimated" would be a substantial
  understatement, as far more than 10% of the crop was lost..)
jep
response 101 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 01:15 UTC 2002

There's a former gravel pit in Tecumseh which is run by the city now as 
a pool, complete with lifeguards and a floating dock.  Would you and 
Jim be interested in coming out for a swim there?

Another alternative would be for us to just drive to Independence Lake 
and join you.'

You know, we should move that discussion to e-mail, unless anyone else 
here would be interested in joining Jim, Sindi, John and I one of these 
weekends.
bru
response 102 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 04:18 UTC 2002

Over 90% of the cherry crop was lost this year in michigan.
jep
response 103 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 13:12 UTC 2002

My goodness.  I hadn't realized that.  That's pretty awful!
slynne
response 104 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 13:37 UTC 2002

Oh yeah, I remember that frost. It ruined some seedlings of mine.

 Over 90% of the cherry crop was lost? Holey smokes. 
keesan
response 105 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 14:51 UTC 2002

Fifty percent of our apricot trees died this spring due to the stressful
winter weather and early spring.  (One of the two leafed out then died).

The Tecumseh gravel pit sounds fantastic!  If only it were not 35 miles away,
but that would be a nice vacation, a day to nearby and camp, a day with you,
maybe a bike ride to Adrian and back along the trail.  Since other people
might find it interesting to know about the gravel pit and other things to
see in the area, no reason to take it to email yet.  We will have more time
in August - just heard from some friends who want to visit for a few days in
late July and it will be a challenge to make space for them in my place.  

What is interesting to see between Ann Arbor and Tecumseh, by bike?

There is a nice trail along the river here from the Broadway Bridge to Parker
Mill, flat, that should not overtax your abilities to bike it, and a pool not
far from the trail, if you want to plan that for some weekend in July or
August.  Perhaps Bruce and Rhiannon could join us.
anderyn
response 106 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 14:54 UTC 2002

I don't know about by bike between A2 and Tecumseh, but there are lots of
cool houses along the road and some really cool graveyards from the early
1800s. Which orchard were you thinking of using for your u-pick? (We always
use Kapnick's orchards, for anything orchard-related.)
keesan
response 107 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 15:44 UTC 2002

Are there other orchards south of Ann Arbor?  
russ
response 108 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 15:45 UTC 2002

Re #82 re #81:  The problem was that I was plowing deep dust with my
front wheel, at too high a speed (I'd just come off pavement) to be
able to keep the bike upright; the wheel was planing on the dust and
had no lateral traction.  Lost my water-bottle holder as well as skin.

Re #84:  That's pedal-pushin', meat-eatin', ecology-lovin', gun-promotin'
libertarian to you, but you can call me MISTER Asshole. ;-)
scott
response 109 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 16:26 UTC 2002

Re 108:  You for "motor-cycle outlawin' libertarian", Russ.  :P
jep
response 110 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 18:27 UTC 2002

re #106: Twila, I live right down the road from Kapnick's.  I'm at 
Conklin Estates apartments.

re #105: I've never biked that way, and am not sure what route I would 
recommend.  I'm not sure what you'd want to see.  The area between 
Saline/Milan and Clinton/Tecumseh is almost entirely farmland, and 
almost entirely flat.  So, there's lots of farms.
bru
response 111 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 18:52 UTC 2002

Kapnicks is a fine orchard.  Only the tart cherries were hurt, sweet black
cherries are fine.  I was able to get some red tart cherries to try again at
making cherry bounce.

Rhiannons front tire is flat, so I think there must be a problem with the
inner tube.  I hope the spare tube here will fit.

         spent 15 minutes cycling around the parking lot this morning and that
pretty much tired me out.  Our Doctor yelled at me that we have to get helmets
for everybody.
keesan
response 112 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 00:53 UTC 2002

We have at least one spare helmet - I thought you promised us that you would
wear one that was in the basement.  I fell off my bike once at two miles an
hour and don't know how I landed but my cheek was scratched and after half
an hour I picked myself up with lots of scrapes but no concussion.  Do you
have a tube patch kit?  We can stop by some time and look at the tube - easier
to patch it than replace it usually.  You should check the tire for glass or
other sharp objects in it.  

We biked south for a few days once, on flat farmland, mostly corn and beans
but I think one patch of onions or cabbage.  Leonard of the farmer's market
had a small fruit and vegetable operation south of Kapnick's, and there was
a girl with a pet pig who we visited when she waved us down.  She had biked
across Michigan.  They showed us a rare weed in their fields.  I forget just
how Milan, Adrian, Clinton and Tecumseh are situated relative to each other.
We found untrafficked roads until Saline, when it got bad and also sort of
boring - nothing but fields full of new large houses going up.  

Bruce, keep it up and add five minutes a day if you can.  John is a model of
what you can do if you keep trying.
glenda
response 113 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:00 UTC 2002

Can someone tell me why when we bought tubes according to the size on the
tire, they don't fit.  Staci got an older bike from my sister.  It had been
sitting in the garage for several years.  There seemed to be a slow leak in
both tires.  Since the tubes were so old we bought new ones.  They don't fit
into the tires, I think STeve said they were too big.  I thought that bike
tubes were more or less standard sizes.  She needs the bike to get to her
babysitting job.  It takes her 45 minutes to walk and would take 15-20 minutes
by bike.
keesan
response 114 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:31 UTC 2002

Perhaps the tube is the right thickness but the wrong circumference?  There
are tubes for 26" 3-speed (older) bikes and 26" mountain (15 or more speed)
newer bikes and 27" 10-speed or 15-speed (racing type) bikes and 700 mm
medium-width bikes and I doubt you can interchange them.  Within the mountain
bike category they come in different tire sizes (I think in inches, up to
around 2").  You night have bought 27" tubes for 26" tires (diameter of the
wheel, roughly).  What type of bike is it?  (If you don't know the size,
describe how the gears work, the shape of the handlebars, etc.)
glenda
response 115 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:44 UTC 2002

The tire has an imprint on the side that says 26" (1 3/8").  We bought 26"
by 1 3/8" tubes.  We're not stupid, we CAN read.  I usually assume that if
a tire is imprinted with a size, that means it is the size it takes.  The
26" tubes are too long.
mdw
response 116 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:45 UTC 2002

I think there may be several different deceptively similar tire sizing
systems out there - I remember being "surprised" at the numbers on inner
tubes...
keesan
response 117 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 02:49 UTC 2002

Jim says to inflate them a little bit and stick them in, if you are sure they
are really 26" and not mislabelled somehow.  Once you get them in make sure
the valve is pointing straight up and then inflate them the rest of the way.
He can stop by some time and take a look, or bike over on the old tubes - near
downtown (Mack School).   Do 3-speed and mountain bikes possibly take
different sizes of tubes?  
scg
response 118 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 04:13 UTC 2002

They'd take different sizes of tubes if they've got different sizes of wheels
and tires.  If they've got the same size of wheels and tires, they'd take the
same size of tubes.  I'm curious what you mean by too big, and not fitting
into the tires, since even a pretty big tube can be crammed into a pretty
small space when deflated.  The tube size should match what's printed on the
tire, so unless one of them is mislabeled (possible, I suppose) those should
be the right tubes.

I'm still puzzled at the contention that it's easier to patch a tube than to
replace it.  All the work involved in replacing a tube is also involved in
taking it out of the tire to patch it, so the difference in work involved is
that replacing it eliminates the work of patching it.  
keesan
response 119 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 12:20 UTC 2002

You don't have to take it all the way out to patch it if you can find the
problem visually.
gull
response 120 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 13:02 UTC 2002

In my experience tubes always seem "too big" when you're trying to stuff
them into the tire.  It's always a struggle.  The instructions will tell you
to inflate the tube a little, which helps at first, but I usually have to
let the air back out to get that last bit inside.
scg
response 121 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 20:21 UTC 2002

It's generally a good idea to inflate the tube a bit before starting to put
it in the tire, to make sure it's fully unfolded and not stuck together, but
letting the air back out before putting it in is pretty essential to make it
fit.
glenda
response 122 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 23:00 UTC 2002

STeve says these are 5-6 inches too long.  He thinks the tube boxes were
mis-marked.  We'll buy another set and try it this weekend
russ
response 123 of 291: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 02:13 UTC 2002

I don't know what I did, but I chopped over 2 minutes off my best
time to date on the exercise route.  This puts my average speed at
more than 16 MPH.  I am going to have legs of steel this summer...
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