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lumen
response 97 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 01:50 UTC 1998

Ahh, bjorn, we'll miss you :(
brown
response 98 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 03:18 UTC 1998

and w why would you have to declare it to total strangers;)
heh 
odd I've been at this job for over 3 months and there are still a
few people who are just finding out. ( although it's pretty tight
I'm sure they've heard whispers) but it shouldn't be that big of a
deal *in a perfect world*

to be perfectly honest there ARE situations in which i still cringe
after after blabbing a  um, a 'preference specific' item that aint
always tolerated
or worry about what reaction I get when  people ask who so-and-so
was when the answer is
"an ex-boyfriend" or wahtever

blah blah etc.
I'm off
gypsi
response 99 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 09:55 UTC 1998

Jon - I've heard that desire from a few guys, along with the "under the 
bathroom stall" scenario, but doesn't the idea of sucking on a 
completely strange penis kind of scare you or disgust you?  I'm just 
curious because I have a hard enough time going down on someone I know. 
 I mean, that person attached to that penis hanging out of the box could 
be *ICKY*.  =)  <shudder>
brown
response 100 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 22:48 UTC 1998

heh
orinoco
response 101 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 23:07 UTC 1998

But that's the whole _point_ of a fantasy - something that probably wouldn't
happen in real life, but it's fun to think about. 
lumen
response 102 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 23:40 UTC 1998

Sarah-- sometimes that's just the point.  Meeting face-toface can be scary.
A guy can get so horny that he doesn't want to do the song and dance of
seduction, so.. an unknown penis reduces a lot of factors.
remember, I did that scenario
bookworm
response 103 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 23:50 UTC 1998

I wondered about that myself, when Jon told me about it, but I believe in him
and I trust him.  Besides, none of us can condemn the guys for fantasizing
about glory holing without first admitting to ourselves our own fantasies of
having sex with some unknown woman we have just seen on the street (I call
it the '(s)he's got a bod...' reflex.

To be perfectly honest, I have had that particular thought run through my head
more times than I care to count since the time that puberty struck.  I have
often wondered what it would be like to actually have a one night stand with
some person I didn't even know.  Unfortunately, I'm one of those poor, pitiful
people with glass hearts.  I don't think I *could* have a one night stand.
lumen
response 104 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 00:04 UTC 1998

I think that's why she picked me..
bookworm
response 105 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 00:28 UTC 1998

Well, part of the reason.
gypsi
response 106 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 00:57 UTC 1998

Oh, I'm not condeming him...just stating how weird *I* would feel. 
=)  Plus, I tend to get bothered when guys possess that "Just put a
bag over her head" philosophy.  ;-)
mta
response 107 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 22:37 UTC 1998

Not to sounds like a complete moron, but would someone please explain to me
what "glory holing" is?  A private e-mail would be fine...

Thanks...  ;)

(And here I thought i really got a round and knew what there was to know.)
<giggle>
brighn
response 108 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 00:23 UTC 1998

glory hole. n. A hole, particularly in a lavatory between stalls, through
which the penis is inserted, for anonymous sex, esp. fellatio.
keesan
response 109 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 01:49 UTC 1998

How does such a hole happen to occur in such a location?  The stalls tend to
be made of rather tough material, such as metal or marble.
Perhaps we should have a glossary for this conference.
mta
response 110 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 02:47 UTC 1998

Thanks, Brighn.

Sindi, I get the impression that where young men and sex are concerned touch
materials are only a momentary impediment.  ;)  Lets make that some young men.
brighn
response 111 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 05:21 UTC 1998

#109> Some stall walls are made of wood. Other than that, I don't know. I
don't frequent gay bars. =} I've never seen such a hole myself, except in
porno mags, where props can be made to order.
mta
response 112 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 15:02 UTC 1998

Well, I suppose the shower wall in Porkies was a "glory hole" of sorts 
-- at least in the fevered imaginations of the characters.
brighn
response 113 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 17:57 UTC 1998

There's a joke along those lines, one variation of which is:
A salesman stopped at a farm and managed to get permission to sleep in the
barn, so long as he stayed away from the house and the farmer's daughter who
(conveniently) slept on the first floor. Unable to sleep, the farmer snuck
up to the house and peeked in the daughter's bedroom window to catch her
crouched on the floor, bouncing up and down on a dildo. He watched her
pleasure herself, and then slip into bed. He crawled under frame of the house
(which, conveniently, was on a platform... isn't this all SO convenient?) and
made a hole in the floor. The next day, he feigned illness, and managed to
get another night in the barn. After dinner, he snuck back under the barn and
slipped his member into the hole and waited for the daughter. Sure enough,
she mistook it for her dildo and started bouncing up and down on it. Hearing
a noise and thinking it was her father coming, she jumped up, kicked the dildo
under the bed, and jumped into bed.
(Yes, there are other versions, but the point is, it's a "glory hole" joke.)
brown
response 114 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 19:28 UTC 1998

<brown raises one eyebrow>
gypsi
response 115 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 07:27 UTC 1998

<lol>  OUCH!!!  =)
joe
response 116 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 16:08 UTC 1998

I think the whole glory hole concept is more fiction than fact. I've seen a
few holes in bathroom walls, but only big enough to peep through. Bathroom
sex, on the other hand, is a different story. It's very real and happens
everywhere. Bathrooms are major cruising grounds, especially in truck stops
and on campus.
gypsi
response 117 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 16:24 UTC 1998

I just can't imagine giving myself to someone through orgasm without
knowing them...it's hard enough to make myself that vulnerable with
someone I *love*.  <sigh>  But I can see where the erotica lies in
that.  The fantasy of sex with a stranger is one of the more common
ones that I hear about.
lise
response 118 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 23:20 UTC 1998

re: #91 birdlady! thanks for the welcome.
re: #92 - congrats!
and of course, re: #113 - men come up with the *weirdest* things! esp. 
stories about sex (you just know some high school boy made them up). 

gloryholing (sp?) doesn't sound that weird. both parties get their needs 
met sans communication/formality. convenient, indeed. i think women are 
more likely to consider their wild fantasies better left unfulfilled 
than men, who decide to find out if it's as good as they thought it 
would be. (so, accuse me of being a sexist generalist.. ah well.. i know 
*i* will never fulfill some of my wilder fantasies. <lise blushes> did i 
just say that?

hey, btw, i ended up (almost accidentally) at affirmation's (& other gay 
religious websites)recently. it is amazing how you get a sort of image & 
don't realize what is going on under the surface.
brown
response 119 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 05:30 UTC 1998

so i ask...
what image ya get
and what IS going on under the surface?
brighn
response 120 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 18:40 UTC 1998

I've heard of at least one person having totally anonymous sex... they went
into a bathroom in a designated area where the lighting was poor, bent over
a designated fixture, and got taken from behind by somebody whose face they
never saw. They loved it the one time, and said beyond the thrill of having
done it, it wasn't worth it.
lise
response 121 of 254: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 03:15 UTC 1998

brown, simply that most people think of religion & homosexuality as
oppositional. but, there are actually glb groups w/in almost every religion
from evangelical to catholic to lds, in spite of the images or stereotypes we
have. so, nowdays, it is possible to have the best of both worlds... (i don't
think this includes anonymous sex).
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