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cmcgee
response 96 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 12:45 UTC 1999

Oh yes! Scanners and cameras and softwares, oh my!
hhsrat
response 97 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 00:45 UTC 1999

Sounds like a really good idea.  Just make sure that if it gets opened, 
turn on HTML in backtalk, this is one conference that would really 
really benefit from it.
toking
response 98 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jul 7 13:56 UTC 1999

Yeah, John and I discussed that 
lilmo
response 99 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jul 8 20:38 UTC 1999

Having some items to link in should help jumpstart it.
jshafer
response 100 of 143: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 07:53 UTC 1999

I just sent cfadm a note on this and toking and I should be getting
together tomorrow.  Hopefully we'll get this up & running soon.
md
response 101 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 19:33 UTC 1999

I'd like to propose a conference for the purpose
of discussing guns and gun control.  The Agora
conference has become almost unreadable because
of the items on this subject.  Ideally, any items 
entered in Agora after the gun control cf is 
created would be linked to the new cf and then 
killed in Agora.  
albaugh
response 102 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 21:35 UTC 1999

(no need to kill 'em in agora, it's [over]due for an autumn restart)

I'd question whether gun control "warrants" an entire conference unto 
itself.  Perhaps some wider "weapons" or "freemen" or "militia" aspects 
could be part of a new conference.  But I really don't care, personally.
pfv
response 103 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 22:02 UTC 1999

Must belong in Agora, if it's all this irritating..

All this *sharing* makes me feel so warm & fuzzy..
remmers
response 104 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 10:26 UTC 1999

Michael, are you proposing the conference because you have an interest
in discussing the subject matter further or because you want to get
items that you don't like "out of the way"?

I wouldn't support killing legal items on the basis of content. Grex has
never done that, and I wouldn't want to start now.
aruba
response 105 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 13:33 UTC 1999

Someone would need to volunteer to be fairwitness of the new conference.
md
response 106 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 15:18 UTC 1999

I'm trying to think of a way to control some very
ugly clutter, Mary.  ("Spam" is almost correct, if
you make it "spoiled Spam.")  Moving all the items
over to the new cf would preserve them for anyone
who wanted to keep at it, and killing them in Agora 
would remove the clutter there.  I realize all I have
to do is forget most of them and I won't see it
anmore, but somehow just knowing it's still there
offends me.  

I also realize that someone might see the movie and 
TV items I enjoy so much in the same way, and propose 
that they be moved to the already extant movie and TV
conferences.  All I can say to that is that there is
only one of each in Agora.  Makes a big difference.

Anyway, just a suggestion.
mary
response 107 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 15:59 UTC 1999

I think you were responding John, but since I agree
with John, no problem.

Who defines "clutter"?  These items are generating 
a whole lot of discussion so someone is finding them
worth their time?  

I know you are frustrated but I really do believe
exercising control over what *you* see is the best
way to avoid such content.
md
response 108 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 17:31 UTC 1999

Okay, okay.  I've been leaning on the
"forget" button lately, as a matter of
fact.  Maybe the answer is to keep entering
items like your "secret celebrity" one 
that's such a hit.  People who aren't 
into spitting at each other need items they
can respond to.
gull
response 109 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 23 23:04 UTC 1999

Yeah. I dislike the idea of moving items out of agora just so you (or I, for
that matter) don't have to look at them.  I do wish that items about other
topics would stop turning into gun control pissing contests, though.
lilmo
response 110 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 02:05 UTC 1999

When I first read md's request, I got the notion that he was interested in
moving them not so much b/c their content annoyed him, as that the seemingly
endless repetition of the content annoyed him.
aruba
response 111 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 02:16 UTC 1999

Perhaps moving items would not be necessary to accomplish the goal of making 
Agora less full of gun items.  If a gun conference existed, it might be
enough just to ask that people who want to discuss the issue do it there and
not (at least not ad nauseum) in Agora.
srw
response 112 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 02:38 UTC 1999

Or gun control could be discussed in the newsline (politics) conference, 
well know for its contentious debates. These items would be right at 
home.
lilmo
response 113 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 03:02 UTC 1999

Good idea!

Let some person, who frequents agora, make that suggestion, there, then.
i
response 114 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 04:46 UTC 1999

Perhaps that fw could link some of the gun items from summer agora?
remmers
response 115 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 25 13:51 UTC 1999

(Actually, I think that a gun control conference fw'd by Michael Delizia
could be very interesting.  I'd even read it.  I don't think he was
volunteering to be fairwitness though...  ;-)
pfv
response 116 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 28 22:44 UTC 1999

        I'd rather see it spewed in agora where I can read it until I
        puke and then forget a load of dufus' topics at once.

        I'd certainly plan on extracting and reposting them right back to
        agora for reasons mentioned before *AND* above.

        Deal with it or filter it.
aruba
response 117 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 01:00 UTC 1999

I'd like to see the guns conference created, but we do need to find a
fair witness.
i
response 118 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 01:44 UTC 1999

Tomorrow will be the sacred 7th day since the proposal to create the new
cf.  But without either a fw or people who seem interested in being 
users in a guns cf, i won't get worked up about creating it real soon.
janc
response 119 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 02:20 UTC 1999

I haven't been on Grex long enough to be completely clear on the sacred
rituals of conference creation.  I think you do need a fair witness.  I
don't know if you need to be able to find anyone who actually wants to
use the conference, but if you create one without doing so, I think you
have no moral standing to try to push discussions of that subject into
that conference.
devnull
response 120 of 143: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 02:46 UTC 1999

Presumably if you have a fairwitness, that person wants to be a user of
the conference?  (Or at least, someone may have invented rules on the
assumption that you'de have an fw who knew that there was demand for
the cf, which wouldn't necessarily always be a reasonable assumption.)
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