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dpc
response 93 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:25 UTC 1998

I have no problem with John running the election at all.
krj
response 94 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 22:06 UTC 1998

I have a question or two which I might like to put forth to the 
candidates.  Should I just start a new coop item for each question?
It would seem redundant for me to pose the question in each candidate's
campaign item, assuming they have one.
 
Or should there just be one free-for-all ask-the-candidates item?
 
I'm seeking a little guidance on structure here.
steve
response 95 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 22:41 UTC 1998

   I'd start an item in coop and asked that it be linked to agora, maybe.
remmers
response 96 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 00:18 UTC 1998

Re #91-93: The same thought (appropriateness of me being election czar
and simultaneously a candidate, at least from the point of view of
appearance) occurred to me. It's happened twice before though, and
nobody voiced any concerns, so I let it ride. From a practical point of
view, in terms of the security of the balloting, I don't think it makes
any difference who the election official is. The votes are stored
online, source to vote program is accessible to any staff member, and
any vote-tampering that I could do could also be done by any root. So it
all boils down to trusting the roots, regardless of who's officially "in
charge".

If there's a feeling of discomfort with the arrangment, though, I'd be
quite willing to step aside and let some other staffer take over.

Re resp:94 - I like the idea of one free-for-all ask-the-candidates
item. Whenever there's an election, I always like to put a pointer to a
discussion item on the ballot and in the motd, and that would give me an
item to point to. (I could put pointers to all candidates' statement
items, but that would bloat things a bit, I think.)
remmers
response 97 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 11:46 UTC 1998

Re resp:91 first paragraph: For obscure technical reasons, I think the
mail I sent out went to the address popcorn@cyberspace.org. Is that mail
shunted to the right place?
steve
response 98 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 12:15 UTC 1998

  Yes--it gets forwarded to her.
janc
response 99 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 17:35 UTC 1998

I don't think I got email notification either (I had voted for Colleen),
but I'm not 100% sure that it isn't lurking in the depths of my staff
mail box - shouldn't go there though.
remmers
response 100 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 18:13 UTC 1998

Yes, if you go there, you might never get out.

Hm, I voted and so got a copy of my own message. I wonder if the problem
was that my script invoked sendmail directly in a tight loop. Does
sendmail have some anti-spam measure in place that rejects rapid-fire
mail from the same address to a bunch of different users?
steve
response 101 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 19:41 UTC 1998

   Excellent question.  Marcus will know. ;-)
remmers
response 102 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 20:44 UTC 1998

In any case, I think I'll resend the mail by a different method, as my 
first method seems not to have worked.
scg
response 103 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 23:59 UTC 1998

I didn't get the mail either, and I had already voted.
jep
response 104 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 21:45 UTC 1998

I didn't get it, either, and I had voted.
mdw
response 105 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 23:12 UTC 1998

Sendmail doesn't (yet) have anything to look for people sending lots of
mail from grex.  It's something we'll probably need to add someday.
davel
response 106 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 13:04 UTC 1998

I also had voted when Colleen was a candidate, & didn't get John's mail.

I have no problem with John's running the election.  If we're going to trust
people with root, they have the ability to diddle the voting whoever actually
runs the election.  My experience also indicates that John seeks out someone
else to verify the actual count.
remmers
response 107 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 14:24 UTC 1998

Yes, I've done that in several elections, and certainly every one
in which I've been a candidate. I think it should be done. Dave,
are you willing to be vote count verifier, and are other folks
comfortable with Dave doing that. If so, I'll give you the
necessary access permissions.
remmers
response 108 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 14:30 UTC 1998

(And re possible vote-diddling: There are safeguards in the program
that would detect various kinds of vote tampering. I'd prefer not
to say what they are. However, they're not 100% foolproof, and a
knowledgeable programmer with root access and access to the source
code could probably figure out ways around them. And as previously
pointed out, Grex staff has access to the source.)
mta
response 109 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 16:29 UTC 1998

I'd be very comfortable with dave verifying the results.
steve
response 110 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 18:19 UTC 1998

   I feel the same way.
dpc
response 111 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 20:00 UTC 1998

Me, too.
aruba
response 112 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 20:44 UTC 1998

I think davel is a good choice.
valerie
response 113 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 16:42 UTC 1998

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janc
response 114 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 18:19 UTC 1998

Ditto davel.  Ditto no mail.
remmers
response 115 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 21:54 UTC 1998

Gack! I'll send it again.  (I wonder if I did something as stupid
as writing the script but forgetting to run it after testing...)
davel
response 116 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 05:20 UTC 1998

Heh.  Of course, no one else in the world would ever do something like that,
John.

Um, I didn't volunteer for the vote-counter position.  However, it's no big
job; I'm honored by all those expressions of trust.  Exactly when is it that
the voting ends?  If the timing isn't too inconvenient, I would be willing
to do it.  (It would have to wait until I arise; I won't wait up until some
midnight just to count votes.)
remmers
response 117 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 10:06 UTC 1998

Of course you didn't volunteer - I volunteered you.  :)  Thanks for
your willingness to do it.

Voting ends on December 15. That's next Sunday. As far as I'm concerned,
counting the votes as soon as it's convenient for you the following day
is okay.
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