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25 new of 332 responses total.
aruba
response 90 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 17:39 UTC 2001

I'd like to nominate Jeff Kaplan and Dan Romanchik.
remmers
response 91 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 17:45 UTC 2001

Speaking personally, I'll add that I've attended many Board meetings,
both as a Board member and "member of the public", and my overall
impression has been that as deliberative bodies go, The Grex Board
is fairly laid-back and uncontentious, and on most issues doesn't
have a lot of trouble reaching concensus.  There are disagreements
from time to time, but I don't remember any shouting matches.

If you want "contentious", you should serve on some of the bodies
I've encountered through work at my university.  :)

So I'd like to encourage more folks to accept, and to consider
making more nominations.
remmers
response 92 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 17:45 UTC 2001

(aruba's #90 slipped in)
mdw
response 93 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 03:32 UTC 2001

Jeff & Dan are both laid-back folks; I'm sure they'd do a fine job and
either or both would be welcome additions.  Jeff deserves credit for
easing a lot of our recent disk space crunch; Dan was once the grex
treasure-lord & did a really bang-up fine job.
dpc
response 94 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 15:38 UTC 2001

I want to emphasize the *lack* of problems M-Net has had with
non-local members.  The Board meets at my house, and we make
two calls and put them on speakerphone.  We have never been
unable to reach our non-local members, and they participate
just like local members.
aruba
response 95 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 16:22 UTC 2001

Jamie is now a member of Grex, so you may consider his candidacy official.
keesan
response 96 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 16:24 UTC 2001

Does anyone want to nominate jep, who has board experience at m-net?
kaplan
response 97 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 16:29 UTC 2001

I accept my nomination.
jp2
response 98 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 16:32 UTC 2001

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aruba
response 99 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 17:04 UTC 2001

Re #97: Yay!
dpc
response 100 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 21:16 UTC 2001

What jp2 said is true, but my statement that we never been unable
to reach our non-local members is also true.  People sometimes
miss meetings, but non-locals have as good a track record as
locals.
krj
response 101 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 7 22:24 UTC 2001

I started item:61 to discuss the idea of out-of-town Board 
members.  Please move discussion there so we can keep this item
uncluttered for Board nominations and acceptances.  Thanks!
jep
response 102 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 20:56 UTC 2001

re #96: I appreciate the suggestion, but:

1) I'm not a member of Grex because I don't like Grex's level of 
support for the ACLU

2) My life is not at the level of stability which I'd want before I'd 
consider running

3) My style of management isn't at all what Grex is used to

4) I have some history which would make me an unpalatable choice for 
many Grexers, including bad management for Arbornet and shocking many 
Grexers by being the visible point of contact for Arbornet pulling out 
of a joint grant project

I do like Grex a lot, and wish it all the best.  I think there are many 
better choices than me for the board.

I think you are one of them, by the way, especially given your passion 
for investment options for Grex, and your ability to take on projects 
and commit time to them.  I'm not just returning a compliment.  I 
really would be very happy to see you serve on the Board.
keesan
response 103 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 20:58 UTC 2001

Thanks for returning the compliment with a compliment but I don't think I am
diplomatic enough to serve on the board.  Mark asked me to run once and I
refused.  Any other volunteers?   I would be happy to do any research which
would save the board time.  I also don't know enough about computers.
aruba
response 104 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 16:18 UTC 2001

I nominate Greg Fleming.
mary
response 105 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 23:55 UTC 2001

Yes.  Please say yes.  

Greg has a very nice way of getting to the meat of an
issue and distilling it down to a common sense solution.

flem
response 106 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 22:26 UTC 2001

Yeah, sure, I'll accept.  
styles
response 107 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 00:03 UTC 2001

#102:  what's grex's level of support for the ACLU, and why is support for
the ACLU bad?
jp2
response 108 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 00:44 UTC 2001

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remmers
response 109 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 03:27 UTC 2001

(Both Grex and Arbornet were parties to a suit filed by the ACLU
against Michigan's internet censorship act.  The law was struck
down by the courts -- the correct outcome, in my opinion.  I
think that our working with the ACLU on this was entirely
appropriate.)

(But this is drift in the board nominations item.)
janc
response 110 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 04:15 UTC 2001

As far as I can tell, it would be as accurate to say that the ACLU supported
Grex and Arbornet as to say that Grex and Arbornet supported the ACLU.  All
three organizations wanted that law struck down.  None of them were involved
solely out of love and affection for the others.  The ACLU contributed vastly
more time and resources to the job than anyone else.  I think they probably
did us a much bigger favor than we did from them.  But I suppose that if you
equate the ACLU with satan, taking favors from them isn't very appealing
either.
gull
response 111 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 14:52 UTC 2001

Yeah, how dare they defeat a law that would have shut us down!  Evil 
bastards.
richard
response 112 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 16:59 UTC 2001

Isnt dpc, an mnet board member, also an aclu lawyer?  I guess jp2
approves of "aclu commies" as long as they are mnet and not grex?
remmers
response 113 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 17:13 UTC 2001

Dave Cahill is an attorney but not with the ACLU.
pthomas
response 114 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 13 18:11 UTC 2001

As I recall Jamie is a card-carrying member of the ACLU.
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