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pfv
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response 9 of 70:
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May 14 17:07 UTC 1999 |
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richard
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response 10 of 70:
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May 14 21:44 UTC 1999 |
couldnt grex offer a partial news feed? perhaps decide on a select
number of groups to carry, possibly polling users as to which would be
the most used? there are still some good groups on usenet and contrary
to an earlier message, not everyone likes mailing lists because not
everyone likes their mailboxes flooded constantly.
what would be ideal is if grex carried a group of the larger usenet confs,
so that there could be crossover conf'ing. someone posting in grex's sex
conf could be prompted if they want to copy their post to "usenet" alt.sex
or something. people would then read that message on usenet, see that it
was originally posted on a grex conference, as opposed to just on usenet,
and that might prompt them to pay a visit here.
It is a way to publicize grex. I have seen usenet posts many times
forwarded from other places.
of course maybe grex staff is more interested in conserving disk space
than attracting new users?
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tpryan
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response 11 of 70:
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May 14 21:53 UTC 1999 |
alt.fan.weird.al
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pfv
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response 12 of 70:
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May 14 23:02 UTC 1999 |
Dejanews.com
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scott
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response 13 of 70:
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May 14 23:19 UTC 1999 |
...which is accessible thru lynx from Grex.
Staff has enough work to do already. Usenet would be nice, but is in no way
something as crucial as email. And how to decide what our limit is? Members
only get to choose? Or what? I'd hate to have us even attempt to carry the
bandwidth sucking .sex area.
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scg
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response 14 of 70:
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May 15 00:46 UTC 1999 |
From staring at a news server's logs, I know which groups are the most used.
Generally, they had names like alt.binaries.erotica.pre-teen. In addition
to being illegal and extremely high bandwidth, there not the sort of thing
I want to spend my time maintaining.
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albaugh
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response 15 of 70:
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May 17 06:04 UTC 1999 |
richard, listen carefully, I'm going to speak very slowly: GIVE IT UP!!!
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davel
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response 16 of 70:
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May 17 21:23 UTC 1999 |
Hmm. I do think it's past time that we stop promising to offer it someday;
I've said so for years. Other than that, what albaugh just said.
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richard
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response 17 of 70:
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May 17 21:31 UTC 1999 |
#16 exactly...why does the message at !tin say usenet "may be back in a
few months"? it appears the move wasnt temporary, so I'd say replace
that with an explanation and a pointer to dejanews or something.
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jep
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response 18 of 70:
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May 18 14:30 UTC 1999 |
The phrase "may be back in a few months" does sound misleading, since
Grex doesn't seem to have the capability or the inclination to offer
Usenet News here at any point in the foreseeable future.
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albaugh
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response 19 of 70:
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May 18 18:30 UTC 1999 |
Ja, probably better to just say something vague such as "Grex does not offer
usenet at this time" which would be true yet non-binding.
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aruba
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response 20 of 70:
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May 19 02:00 UTC 1999 |
The message that "tin" gives does indeed refer the user to dejanews. So does
the message from "rn", though the two are different; rn is more pessimistic.
I suspect that the rn message was updated more recently, but whoever did the
updating forgot to do tin as well. I'd suggest chenging tin's message to
match rn's.
While I do not have an opinion on whether Grex should offer usenet news, I
do think we should be considering how we'd like Grex to grow in the future,
and what new services we'd like to offer. I'd hate for us to become a stale
system which catered only to the desires of old fogies whose tastes were
formed ten years ago.
So I welcome Richard's suggestion, even if we don't adopt it, and I am a bit
disturbed by people telling him to shut up. I don't think his attitude is
unreasonable in this case.
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keesan
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response 21 of 70:
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May 19 13:32 UTC 1999 |
I often type rn by accident instead of r n, maybe new users would appreciate
the message also mentioning that they should type r n (with a space) to read
new items.
And I agree with Mark that Richard should not be picked on for making
suggestions for improvement to grex. (People are of course entitled to get
mad at him for wanting to improve their personal lives, just as he is entitled
to continue attempting to do so in our 'open' system.)
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toking
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response 22 of 70:
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May 19 16:26 UTC 1999 |
(if you just type r it will read the new messages)
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keesan
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response 23 of 70:
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May 21 16:28 UTC 1999 |
I just got the news has been down for several years when I tried to rename
a file with rn (the command should be mv for move).
And that it may never be back.
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drew
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response 24 of 70:
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May 21 21:11 UTC 1999 |
Hmmm. How about globally aliasing 'rn' to 'lynx dejanews.com'?
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devnull
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response 25 of 70:
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May 22 04:27 UTC 1999 |
Re #3: Really? I didn't know grex had 90GB of disk space.
(I recently saw the maintainers of news.mit.edu saying that they want their
new machine to have 90GB...)
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dang
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response 26 of 70:
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May 22 19:42 UTC 1999 |
Then I'm behind the times. I don't do much with usenet.
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other
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response 27 of 70:
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May 27 01:31 UTC 1999 |
i'm greatly in favor of drew's suggestion in resp:24 above. and tin as
well...
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fungster
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response 28 of 70:
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May 30 06:39 UTC 1999 |
How about allowing access on port 79 to members so that they can use
their own Usenet service? Dejanews (oops, "Deja.Com") is notroiously
crappy on lynx, and is even more so with its news interface. And,
reference.com (my favorite site) doesn't seem to be keeping up.
In addition, usenetchannel.com went out of business a couple of
years ago.
For that matter, how about aliasing trn, tin, and rn to one of the
many READ ONLY news services out there, like news.ripco.com,
news.netcom.ca, or www.talkway.com? (www.talkway.com, despite its
name, offers both web-based reading and posting on the http
protocol (port 80) and reading only on port 79. I'm sure they wouldn't
mind if Grex linked off this site.) Indeed, with the overhead of the
huge table enhanced files from services like deja.com, this would
actually be more beneficial to Grex's link, and use up less
bandwidth.
Also, you might want to talk to jared and see if he will "share"
nether.net's news.nether.net (actually iagnet.net news feed)
service. This may be doubtful, though, because the license may
only cover one block of IP numbers.
Here's a link to legally accessible (as opposed to news servers
left on because the admin forgot or was too stupid to turn off
global accessing), public, read only news servers:
http://www.gj.net/~bhkraft/
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scg
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response 29 of 70:
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May 30 17:28 UTC 1999 |
Members have access to all TCP and UDP ports, so port 79 is there.
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fungster
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response 30 of 70:
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May 30 22:54 UTC 1999 |
I meant port 119 (NNTP). Why not allow access to port 119 on www.talkway.com
for everyone? (79 is finger.)
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scg
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response 31 of 70:
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May 30 23:16 UTC 1999 |
You're right. I should have read more carefully. Anyhow, as I said, members
have access to all TCP and UDP ports. 119 would be in cluded in all, just
as 79 would.
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mdw
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response 32 of 70:
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May 31 01:45 UTC 1999 |
If it helps any, port 131072 isn't included in "all ports".
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dang
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response 33 of 70:
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May 31 18:40 UTC 1999 |
Why not?
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