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aruba
response 89 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 15:43 UTC 1998

Re #87:  I don't think we can say, Mary, until UPS weighs it and packages it.
Maybe someone could stimate the shipping charges with or without the case?
scg
response 90 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 18:54 UTC 1998

Oh, it turns out I was wrong about the size.  It's been described as two
refrigerator sized boxes.
rcurl
response 91 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 19:30 UTC 1998

Is that a counter-top apartment refrigerator, or a meat store refrigerator?
(Why don't people just give the sizes and weights, instead of invoking
dubious analogies?) 
scg
response 92 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 20:03 UTC 1998

Because you're the only person who analises thigns to that level, while
everybody else would assume that normal house refridgerators are the standard
size. ;)
janc
response 93 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 20:49 UTC 1998

I can't image that we want two refrigerator sized chassis.  Where would
we put them?  The specs I saw said they need 220 volts, which we haven't
got in the pumpkin.  I think we should give up on the boxes and just get
the guts.  Shipping on that would be more plausible.
aruba
response 94 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 00:23 UTC 1998

I heartily agree.
drew
response 95 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 5 20:43 UTC 1998

Shipping the chassis may indeed cost more than they're worth. But I disagree
that you "don't have 220 volts" in the Pumpkin. Open the circuit breaker box
and look inside; you'll see a bunch of switches clipped into an array of metal
prongs. If you look closely, you'll see that this is essentially two metal
"combs" with the "teeth" interleaved. These are opposite poles of alternating
+120 volts to -120 volts AC. A single circuit breaker connects *one* of these
metal combs to that circuit, then to ground. There are 220V circuit breakers
you can buy at the Home Depot than connect to *both* combs, via two adjacent
teeth, to supply 220 volts to a circuit. Buy one, hook the circuit up to it,
power down, pop it in, power back up. You can also get wiring and 220 volt
sockets as needed. I did this to put a 220 socket in my garage, just in case
I might want 220 volts for some reason.
scott
response 96 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 13:17 UTC 1998

We don't have the box in the Pumpkin, though, so we'd have to run some new
wire in the building.
mta
response 97 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 21:24 UTC 1998

I'd say "get the guts and forget the rest".
mdw
response 98 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 21:30 UTC 1998

(It's worth remembering that we still have at least one drive that's
just sitting out in the open with an ordinary window fan for cooling.)
remmers
response 99 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 6 21:49 UTC 1998

A motion for Grex to endorse the Blue Ribbon Campaign for Online
Freedom of Expression is now being voted on. See Item 43 in the
Coop conference (item:coop,43) for relevant discussion. To get
info or to cast a ballot, telnet or dial in to Grex and 
type   propvote   at a Unix shell prompt, or   !propvote   at
a bbs or menu prompt.

Anybody can vote, but only the votes of Grex members in good
standing will be counted in determining the outcome.
valerie
response 100 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 20:50 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

janc
response 101 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 21:31 UTC 1998

Is there a webvote program for this?
remmers
response 102 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 01:31 UTC 1998

The closing date is Dec. 16 on the proposal (one day after the closing
date on the Board election). I mentioned it in the motd announcement
but neglected to here.

No webvote on this one. Promise to have that done for the next proposal
vote, whenever that may be.
davel
response 103 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 04:10 UTC 1998

Hmmm.  I could make a motion that ...
remmers
response 104 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 08:25 UTC 1998

Please! No more motions until my semester is over.  :)
aruba
response 105 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 03:12 UTC 1998

I have finally gotten around to entering some new items in the auction!  I
have about 100 descriptions of items typed in and organized, and I plan to
enter about 4 items per day in the conference for the next few weeks.  If you
are looking for Christmas or Hanukah presents, and want to help out Grex in
the process, join the auction conference!
tpryan
response 106 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 18:11 UTC 1998

        Seems by the rules of the auction, today's new items could only
close in two weeks, on Dec 25th---what, one week minimun before auctioneers
start to close item?
aruba
response 107 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 18:37 UTC 1998

The rules of the auction are that an item is "going once" a week after the 
last bid, "going twice" a day after that, and "sold" a day after that.
tpryan
response 108 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 18:56 UTC 1998

        Close enough.  IF today's bids get no other bids, the quickest
they can close is Dec 22nd.  That's if the (auction) collective stays
on top of it.  Payment/delivery could happen on Dec 23rd or 24th, but
the chance of that is slim.
aruba
response 109 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 21:59 UTC 1998

Well, we con only do our best.  It would have been better if I had been ready
earlier, of course, but I wasn't.
keesan
response 110 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 01:04 UTC 1998

I cannot imagine anyone doing a better job on auction than Aruba, who also
has his own life to lead.
jep
response 111 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 14:33 UTC 1998

I can imagine a better job, but I certainly couldn't do a better job.  I 
think Mark is doing well.  If you want to give a Grex auction item as a 
Christmas gift, arrange for a gift certificate.  Or give late.  Or just 
buy it for yourself.
remmers
response 112 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 15:53 UTC 1998

REMINDER: Tuesday, Dec. 15 is the LAST DAY TO VOTE in the Grex Board
of Directors election. The polls close at midnight (EST) on the end
of that day.

To vote or just to get information on the election, run the command

        vote    -from a Unix shell prompt
        !vote   -from a bbs or menu prompt

or on the web go to the URL

        http://cyberspace.org/cgi-bin/pw/voting-booth

aruba
response 113 of 175: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 16:51 UTC 1998

Re #110,111:  Thanks for the support, Sindi and John.  Tim (tpryan) is largely
responsible for this being the biggest Grex auction to date, because he 
donated a whole lot of stuff, including about 100 books.  I understand your
being frustrated, Tim, that it has taken so long to see some of your donations
doing some good, but it is, finally, happening.

join auction everybody!
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