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spooked
response 87 of 120: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 13:05 UTC 2000

I beleive it's closed for the time being while the fw sets it up (user 'i'
mentioned this somewhere from recall).
spooked
response 88 of 120: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 13:06 UTC 2000

#86 slipped in.
remmers
response 89 of 120: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 13:15 UTC 2000

Nope.  When a conference is started, it's often set up so that
only the fairwitness can join it, to set up the login screen and
one or more initial items.  Then when the fw is ready, it's
opened to the public.  Right now, it technically exists, but only
prp is in it.

There are no private conferences on Grex, other than the staff
conference.  That policy was established by member vote a few
years ago.  In my view, it would take another member vote to
overturn it.

Decorum was authorized to be started a while ago -- I guess the
reason we're still discussing it is because of the concept of its
being a collection of conferences instead of just one, which I
don't think was clear to people earlier.  I know it wasn't to
me.  Personally, I think the whole concept is screwy, unlikely
to have popular appeal, and will just lead to there being a
few more dead conferences.  Also, again speaking personally, I
think Agora is fine and doesn't need fixing.  If there's wide-
spread dissatisfaction with it, as Paul believes, why don't we
see anybody else in this item other than him expressing it?

I suppose I could be wrong, I've been wrong before, and anyway
Grex policy is to let people try out new ideas for conferences.
We even let some guy have a thing called "cyberpunk" a while
back despite some people's misgivings.  ;-)  So if Paul really
wants to try this, I suppose he should be allowed.  Hopefully
he understands that the software imposes limitations on what a
fairwitness can do, that he has to work within those limitations,
and that the burden is on him to get people interested in
participating.
remmers
response 90 of 120: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 13:17 UTC 2000

(#86, 87, 88 slipped in)
raven
response 91 of 120: Mark Unseen   Feb 20 19:54 UTC 2000

So what about the twit filter or a seperate message board.  Any interest prp?

p.s.  prp I *really* hope you read coop6 item 96 to get some historical
perspective. Try at the next Ok: j coop6 r 96
raven
response 92 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 21:07 UTC 2000

Did prp give up?
raven
response 93 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 19:29 UTC 2000

R.I.P. decorum?
i
response 94 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 04:04 UTC 2000

I haven't heard from prp in almost a month.  Without an active fw, i
don't see that we could do much with the decorum cf. except remove it
quitely.....you still around, prp, or is someone else interested in
fw'ing, or...???
don
response 95 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 13:26 UTC 2000

I can FW it, as I offered in the beginning. A while back I dropped my
advocacy of the conference, but if Paul's temporarily gone for a while I can
start it up. I guess I'll go by this item to figure out how to run the thing.
raven
response 96 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 15 20:20 UTC 2000

re #95  You aren't going to advocate fw censorship like prp did, are you?
don
response 97 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 17 01:09 UTC 2000

Hmm. Good question. I think that was the whole point of the conference.
raven
response 98 of 120: Mark Unseen   Mar 19 08:01 UTC 2000

<sigh> Just when I thought this decorum thing was over.  Can't we just be
rational and post something about filters and leave up to individual users what
their level of sensativity is?  Perhaps you could fw the moribund intro conf.
with a paragraph on filters on it's intro page?  Why have the fw dictate what
users are capable of deciding on their own?

raven
response 99 of 120: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 07:44 UTC 2000

Any interet in fwing intro DOn and letting decorum die a graceful
death with well ummmm decorum? :-)
don
response 100 of 120: Mark Unseen   Apr 22 04:00 UTC 2000

Deal.
raven
response 101 of 120: Mark Unseen   May 1 04:52 UTC 2000

Cool!
keesan
response 102 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:35 UTC 2000

I would not mind having a conference to use temporarily until the m-netters
stop filling up agora with their idea of interesting items.  
keesan
response 103 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:36 UTC 2000

j decorum
Failed security checkpoint.

Can someone explain?  Do I need a password to get in?
janc
response 104 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:38 UTC 2000

It doesn't actually exist.  I think it got partway created before it's
advocates vanished.
jmsaul
response 105 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 17:46 UTC 2000

Keesan, I don't ordinarily say this kind of thing, but go eat a bag of
vegetarian, home-grown, organic shitdicks.
md
response 106 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 18:01 UTC 2000

Tsk tsk.  Such hostility, and directed at such a 
harmless person.  

Tell us, Joe, don't you think keesan has a right to 
an interesting conferencing environment?  Or do you 
actually think the stuff your fellow mnetters are 
entering *is* interesting?
remmers
response 107 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 18:25 UTC 2000

Re #105:  Heh.  You should talk.  M-Netters have had to run from
their own general conference and take refuge in Hitone.
jmsaul
response 108 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 19:54 UTC 2000

Re #106:  I guess I could direct the hostility at you, if you prefer, but
          I don't find you as annoying.  You don't act as superior as she
          does.  I bet you could if you tried, of course...

          And no, I don't find all of the last items interesting at all.
          I hated it when they did it on M-Net, and I hate it here.  But I
          also don't find detailed updates on activities at Kiwanis, or
          a number of other standard Agora iteme, interesting either.  I
          don't ask for a special conference free of the people who enter
          them, though;  I just skip over the items or forget them, because
          I realize that other people like them.

Re #107:  We aren't locking anyone out of hitone, and it's regularly
          advertised in the "other conferences" item.  It's just another
          specialty conference, geared toward serious philosophical
          discussions.  It isn't intended as a secret conference to be used
          to get away from the riffraff.
aruba
response 109 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 19:57 UTC 2000

(No one's advocating a secret conference, as far as I can tell.)
albaugh
response 110 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 20:10 UTC 2000

Yeah, and how *many* Kiwanis items are there?  A new one every day?
A serious discussion, no matter how boring to anyone personally, cannot 
be mistaken for deliberate clutter.
jmsaul
response 111 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 20:11 UTC 2000

It's certainly easier to forget one mind-numbingly dull item than it is to
forget multiple ones, but the basic point stands.
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