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lumen
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response 81 of 256:
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Sep 13 05:42 UTC 1997 |
_Sheet Music_ magazine gave pointers when ragtime was in a revival in the
70's. If I remember correctly, to play ragtime, or to play a ragged rhythm,
in other words, you had to picture a drunken man staggering down the stairs.
See if you can find some of these back issues.
Ragtime, in my opinion, isn't necessarily as difficult as some 'classical'
music-- (I think John could be including Romantic and Impressionist [the work
of Debussy] here). What *is* difficult are the left-hand passages, which roll
along as frequently as the right-hand ones, and the stamina you will need to
play some pieces. I still can't get all the way through "Easy Winners" by
Joplin before I start slowing down. My left wrist gets tired..well, you
get the idea. FOllow John's advice and start with the easy stuff, building
up to harder pieces.
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orinoco
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response 82 of 256:
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Sep 13 14:16 UTC 1997 |
Given my weak left hand, that's probably wise advice
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remmers
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response 83 of 256:
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Sep 13 18:24 UTC 1997 |
There are two aspects to ragtime's difficulty: First, the sheer
physical demands, especially in the left hand (I agree with lumen
here). Secondly, style and interpretation issues, especially if
you come to ragtime already familiar with a different tradition
-- there are a lot of adjustments to be made in one's approach
to the music.
I've found that practice practice practice is the solution to both
these problems. It gets easier. Now that I'm "in" the style, I can
learn a new piece much more easily than I used to.
Lately I've been working on a couple of Eubie Blake pieces, "The
Baltimore Todalo" (pronounced: too-da-loo') and "Poor Jimmy Green".
These are significantly more demanding physically than most of
Joplin, Lamb, or Scott -- lots of octaves and tenths (Blake must
have had BIG hands) that require a lot of stretching and leave my
hands quite tired after I've done it for a while. Plus the usual
amount of jumping around in the left hand. But with practice, it's
slowly getting more comfortable.
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scott
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response 84 of 256:
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Sep 13 23:17 UTC 1997 |
Blake had huge, "ET" looking hands.
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orinoco
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response 85 of 256:
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Sep 14 00:50 UTC 1997 |
Tenths? My, my, my...I don't know that I'll ever be quite up to that.
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arabella
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response 86 of 256:
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Sep 29 06:53 UTC 1997 |
I had to stop playing ragtime when I developed tendonitis in my
wrists some years ago, because the left-hand repeated octaves were
just too painful to play. (My condition has improved considerably
with the help of my chiropractor, so I occasionally play a few
Scott Joplin pieces for fun, though I rarely practice the piano
these days -- too busy practicing singing.)
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remmers
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response 87 of 256:
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Oct 18 12:38 UTC 1997 |
I can handle the octaves, but the tenths that abound in Eubie
Blake's music are, literally, a "stretch" for me. But it's
coming.
The cover of "Sincerely Eubie Blake", a collection of his rags
edited by Terry Waldo, has a photo of Blake's hands, and they
are indeed ET-like. In the introduction, Waldo has this to say
about left hand technique:
It cannot be overemphasized how important it is to
"lay down" a solid beat with the left hand. Eubie
always taps his foot or "stomps" in order to
maintain this strong rhythmic foundation. Without
it there is nothing to build on. Ragtime players
must have a strong left hand and keep good time.
While often the straight 2/4, boom-chick pattern
is abandoned in Eubie's rags, there is always a
strong rhythmic pulse. It should be played in a
way that it could be danced to.
Unfortunately, it helps to have large hands to
play these rags. Eubie has an enormous span which
has made it easy for him to stretch over a twelfth
on the piano (i.e. from C to G, 12 notes away).
Playing tenths is nothing for him. For some of us
with smaller hands, the task is a little more
difficult, but it can be mastered. All these rags
contain tenths in the left hand--most are rolled,
however, and those not so marked could be played
with a fast roll to give the illusion of all
notes being played simultaneously. In any case,
it will be necessary to practice the left hand
until these full spacings are comfortable. The
style of employing tenths in the left hand is
central to Eubie's music and to the whole
Eastern school of stride piano.
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orinoco
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response 88 of 256:
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Oct 19 20:03 UTC 1997 |
"Eastern school" of stride piano? How do the different schools work?
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remmers
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response 89 of 256:
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Oct 22 10:03 UTC 1997 |
Well, "school" in the sense of "a class of people whose work and
style demonstrates some common influence" rather than an actual
educational institution. Different styles of ragtime performance
and composition evolved in different parts of the country. Thus
there was Missouri ragtime, New York ragtime, etc.
Today I'm off to Savannah Georgia to attend the annual Tom
Turpin Ragtime Festival -- 4 days of immersion in ragtime
concerts, lectures, and the unique Savannah ambience. There's
a stellar lineup of artists this year: John Arpin, Dick
Zimmerman, Mimi Blais, Terry Waldo, Trebor Tichenor, Bob Darch,
Bob Milne, David Jasen, and others. Should be quite fun. When
it's over, I'll file a report here of course.
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orinoco
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response 90 of 256:
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Oct 22 22:32 UTC 1997 |
Right, but what would the difference be between, say, MIssouri and New York
ragtime?
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mary
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response 91 of 256:
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Oct 23 13:46 UTC 1997 |
Accent. ;-)
(Not to worry, John will be back in a few days and you'll
get a much better answer.)
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orinoco
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response 92 of 256:
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Oct 25 20:44 UTC 1997 |
That, and the occasional y'all?
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remmers
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response 93 of 256:
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Oct 27 19:45 UTC 1997 |
I'm not enough of a ragtime scholar to comment knowledgeably on
regional differences. There's a book by David Jasen and Trebor
Tichenor called _Rags and Ragtime_, recently reprinted by Dover,
that might give you some insights. I found it in Barnes & Noble
a few weeks ago.
By the way, the Savannah festival was WONDERFUL. Superb lineup
of performers, lots of great music, and some opportunities for
me to play. I was less bashful about doing that than I was last
year when I was brand new to the festival circuit. Full report
will have to wait until I've more time.
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remmers
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response 94 of 256:
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Nov 5 11:02 UTC 1997 |
Still trying to organize my thoughts on the Savannah festival.
But in the meantime, one thing I did there was to renew my
acquaintance with Patricia Lamb Conn, Joseph Lamb's daughter and
a very nice lady. She likes the way I play her dad's music and
offered to send me a bunch of his unpublished works. Yesterday
a package arrived from her in the mail and I'm now the proud
possesser of several of his rags and waltzes that I didn't have
before. A particular delight are "Brown Derby Rag" and "Ragtime
Reverie", recently reconstructed from tape recordings and Lamb's
notes, and published privately by Patricia 3 or 4 years ago.
They are both excellent pieces.
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remmers
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Dec 12 01:33 UTC 1997 |
An announcement of interest to folks in the Ann Arbor area: This
Sunday, Dec. 14th, is the 24 annual Ragtime-Jazz Holiday Bash
ath the Unitarian-Universalist Church, 1917 Washtenaw Avenue,
Ann Arbor, 8 p.m. Tickets $12 at the door (students & seniors
$7).
Featured artists are Bob Seeley, James Dapogny, Bob Milne,
William Bolcom, Joan Morris, Bill Albright, and "special,
surprise guests."
If you go, get there early! Seating is first come first served,
and the place tends to be packed by the half an hour or more
before the concert. I plan on getting there at least an hour
ahead of time.
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remmers
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response 96 of 256:
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Dec 15 15:41 UTC 1997 |
Ragtime Bash was excellent. I got smart this year and arrived
more than an hour ahead of time. A few people were already
there, but by 7:20 -- 40 minutes before showtime -- the place
was nearly full. Thanks to the early arrival, I got a seat in
the 3rd row with a good view of the keyboard.
Bill Albright emcee'd but only played a couple of pieces --
Joplin's "Maple Leaf Rag" and his own song "Old Tom Turpin". He
remarked that he's playing less because of a chronic hand
problem, due he thinks to some excessive stretching he did a few
years ago when working on some James P. Johnson material. I'm
sure he finds being incapacitated frustrating.
All the performers were Ragtime Bash veterans with the exception
of Bob Milne, who's been mentioned earlier in this item and who
has rapidly become one of my favorite ragtime artists based on
a few performances I've attended over the last year. This was
his first appearance at a Bash, and although he lives in Lapeer,
I imagine that he's largely unfamiliar to Ann Arbor audiences.
Milne practically stole the show with his rich, highly personal,
technically dazzling renditions of such things as James P.
Johnson's "Eccentricity Waltz", Eudie Bowman's "Twelfth Street
Rag", his own composition "Ragged Music Box" (in the style of
Mozart), and his ragged-up version of the the Christmas carol
"Oh Holy Night". The audience responded with great enthusiasm,
and Albright promised that Milne would be back in future Bashes.
In addition to Milne's two sets, other highlights for me were
a rousing rendition of Kipling's "Road to Mandalay", sung by
Joan Morris and played by William Bolcom; Walid Hurani's (sp?)
rendition of Bolcom & Albright's "Brass Knuckles"; and Bob
Seeley's expert stride/boogie arrangement of Handy's "St. Louis
Blues".
After the show I purchased a Milne CD and cassette out in the
lobby. Milne's wife, who was selling them, recognized me from his
Ann Arbor concert last winter, the Frankenmuth festival, and the
Savannah festival. She must think I'm a stalker... :)
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remmers
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response 97 of 256:
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Mar 19 13:21 UTC 1998 |
Mary's cello teacher held an informal family recital/party at the
Unitarian Church in Ann Arbor, as part of which I got to play a
ragtime piano solo: Harry Guy's "Pearl of the Harem" (1901). Like
Guy's other rags, it exhibits a strong classical influence.
There are interesting switches throughout between major and minor
modes, and between the traditional oompah-oompah bass line of
ragtime and other bass patterns -- rather unusual for ragtime.
The piano at the church is a Baldwin grand with a light, responsive
touch, and with its booming bass is voiced very well for ragtime.
It was a pleasure to play on it. (The same piano is used at the
annual "Ragtime Christmas Bash" held at the church, so it's
understandable that it has been ragtime-optimized.)
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remmers
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response 98 of 256:
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Mar 19 15:27 UTC 1998 |
(For the record, the recital was on March 18, 1998.)
Repertoire update: I've been working on a few new pieces
over the last several months. Highlights:
Some rags by Bob Milne, contemporary "ragtimist" who lives
in Lapeer, Michigan and is a mainstay of ragtime festivals
(deservedly so, as he's a wonderful performer/lecturer/
entertainer). I've got his cheery "Summertime Rag" pretty
well down and would be comfortable performing it in public.
I've also been working on his "Seashore Rag" (a Japanese-
style rag with a beautiful non-ragged middle section based
on a Japanese folk song), the wistful "Mimi", and the Mozart-
inspired "Ragtime Music Box".
Harry Guy's "Pearl of the Harem", mentioned earlier.
George Botsford's catchy two-step "Hyacinth" (1902). Botsford
was an excellent early ragtime composer whose works are little-
known today. Several of his compositions can be found in Dick
Zimmerman's "100 Rare Piano Rags" collection. I could do
"Hyacinth" publicly too at this point.
Scott Joplin's "A Real Slow Drag", the finale of his opera
"Treemonisha". This one seems hard to come by -- the only
modern reprint I'm aware of is in volume 2 of the New York
Public Library's edition of Joplin's collected work. Volume
2 has been out of print for years. I was able to find a copy
in the EMU library recently, much to my delight. Although
"Treemonisha" as a whole is sub-standard Joplin, "A Real Slow
Drag" is one of his most beautiful works. I've been practicing
it intensively over the last few days.
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scott
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response 99 of 256:
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Mar 19 17:26 UTC 1998 |
Is there a specific "Japanese style" of ragtime, or is the above listed as
such because it has something based on a Japanese song?
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remmers
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response 100 of 256:
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Mar 20 11:27 UTC 1998 |
I phrased that ambiguously. There's no "Japanese style" of ragtime
that I know of. "Seashore Rag" employs parallel fourths in the
first and final strains, giving an oriental flavor to the harmony.
This in addition to the middle strain based on the Japanese folk
song.
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remmers
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response 101 of 256:
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Mar 25 02:01 UTC 1998 |
At the Tom Turpin conference in Savannah last October, I met
someone who is quite a collector of old ragtime sheet music.
She had a ton of Xeroxes of the stuff that she let me look
through and take whatever I wanted, so I grabbed a bunch of
things that looked interesting. Except for one piece -- Joe
Jordan's "That Teasin' Rag" -- it's all been sitting in my
piano bench for the last few months, unused. A few days ago
I started looking through it again and came up with a couple
of George Botsford gems: "Rag, Baby Mine" and "Boomerang Rag",
from 1913 and 1916 respectively. They're happy, bouncy little
numbers with the infectiousness that characterizes Botsford's
compositions (e.g. the above-mentioned "Hyacinth Rag"). They're
really quite similar in feel, although the 3rd strain of
"Boomerang" has a Missouri "folk" feel that is unusual for
Botsford and reminds me a good bit of Arthur Marshall.
I plan to make both of these pieces part of my "from memory"
repertoire.
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remmers
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response 102 of 256:
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Apr 21 16:39 UTC 1998 |
This weekend there's a ragtime event close to home: the annual
Zehnder's Ragtime Festival in Frankenmuth, Michigan. Dates are
Thursday, April 23 through Sunday, April 26.
The featured entertainers are Bob Milne, Sue Keller, Kerry Price,
and Bo Grumpus.
Milne, Keller, and Bo Grumpus appeared at last year's festival
and are all splendid. Bo Grumpus is actually a three-person
ensemble of guitar, washboard, and string bass. The guitarist
also does vocals. Marty Eggers, their bassist, is also a pretty
fair ragtime piano player.
I've not encountered Kerry Price before. Her bio is interesting.
She has a masters in music from the University of Michigan and
teaches choral music and jazz history. In the past she's been an
accompanist, singer, and cellist. Currently she writes and performs
one-woman programs in the Detroit area and has recorded several
albums with area jazz bands. I look forward to hearing her.
Events:
o Vaudeville Night - Thursday, 7pm. $15/person
o Seminar: Ragtime and the Working Musician - Friday, 11-12 (free)
o Seminar: Ragtime and the Blues - Friday, 1:30-2:30 (free)
o Friday Dinner Concert - Friday, 6pm (cash bar), 7pm (buffet
dinner), 8pm (concert). $35/person.
o Silent Movies w/live accompaniment - Saturday, 11, 12, 1 ($3 each)
o Meet the Artists - Saturday 3-5pm
o Saturday Dinner Concert - same schedule & pricing as Friday
o Brunch and Concert - Sunday, 10am. $20/person
Plus there will likely be afterhours sessions and other impromptu
"open mike" sessions where non-scheduled performers can play. I did a
bit of that last year, and imagine that I (and others) will do it again.
I'll be attending the whole festival, unfortunately with the exception
of the seminars due to a commitment back home on Friday morning. When
it's over, I'll file a report here.
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remmers
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response 103 of 256:
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May 3 23:56 UTC 1998 |
...and here's my report. [WARNING: 120 lines long]
This year's Zehnder's Ragtime Festival in Frankenmuth Michigan
was great fun with some fine musical highlights. The performers
were Bob Milne, Sue Keller, Kerry Price, and Bo Grumpus. Most of
the events took place in Zehnder's Restaurant, fabled for its
chicken dinners.
I'd not encountered Kerry Price before. She turned out to be a
blues, ragtime, and jazz singer/pianist from Detroit who was
active in the southeast Michigan musical scene in the 1960's and
1970's but who pretty much dropped out to become a full-time
music teacher at Detroit Country Day School. Her appearance in
Frankenmuth was something of a comeback, I gather. She's a fine
blues singer with a strong voice that carries a lot of emotion,
and I was happy to have the opportunity to hear her. She is also
something of a scholar on the musical history of the period --
this was evident from her comments at one of the seminars held
as part of the festival. I figure that those 8th graders at
Country Day must be getting a wonderful musical education. The
music scene's loss is education's gain, or something like that.
Bo Grumpus is actually a three-person band: guitarist (and
occasional vocalist) Craig Ventresco, string bass player Marty
Eggers, and washboardist Pete Devine (in addition to washboard,
he also plays cymbals and gourds for the group -- no drums
though). They're based in San Francisco and travel around the
country with their act. They're excellent musicians who
specialize in old-time ragtime tunes that you probably never
heard of, and they do them in an entertaining style that seems
just right.
Milne and Keller I've commented on earlier in this item. Milne
is a splendid ragtime/boogie-woogie/stride/whatever player with
a unique style and prodigious technique. He lives in Lapeer,
Michigan and used to play restaurants, saloons, etc. all over
the Southeast Michigan area in the 1960's, 1970's, and
1980's.(and has written an amusing book on his experiences as a
"journyeman piano player"). He's established enough of a
reputation that he can restrict his appearance mostly to concert
halls and festivals these days. Keller is an accomplished
pianist/singer from New York City (recently moved to Chicago)
who specializes in ragtime and other vintage popular styles.
(Keller was also scheduled to get married the week following the
festival. I assume that this event took place.)
I attended the entire 4-day festival this year, from Thursday's
"Vaudeville Night" through the Sunday morning brunch and
concert. At Thursday's performance I met up with Audrey Van
Dyke, a ragtime enthusiast and BIG TIME sheet music collector
who lives in the Washington DC area and whom I'd met at last
October's Savannah festival. Her parents live in Michigan and
she'd brought them along. For about ten years she's been going
to antique stores, estate sales, and the like, seeking out piano
sheet music from the early ragtime era through the popular
styles of the 1920's and 1930's. She's amassed quite a
collection and likes to give out xerox copies to people whom she
figures can make good use of it. Luckily I am on Audrey's list
of such people. She handed me a package of music about an inch
and a half thick and said there would be more coming on
subsequent days. Since an inch and a half was more than I
expected to get in toto, I found myself wondering just how much
music she was going to bestow on me but didn't press the
subject.
In addition to being a collector, Audrey plays piano and is a
decent interpreter of Scott Joplin's music. After the scheduled
performers were done and most of the audience had cleared out
(except for Audrey's parents and a few stragglers) Audrey and I
decided to commandeer the piano and try out various pieces we'd
been working on. Among other things, I played some George
Botsford pieces I'd acquired from Audrey in Savannah, Joe Lamb's
"Old Folks Rag" (which brings in the theme from Stephen Foster's
"Old Folks at Home" at the end), and Lamb's unpublished "Ragged
Rapids Rag". After I'd done "Old Folks", Bob Milne walked into
the room (he'd been listening out in the lobby, unbeknownst to
me), said he liked my playing, and encouraged me to play some
more in the Tap Room, which was going to be set up on subsequent
days for "after hours" activities. I thanked him for the kind
words. After I was done, Audrey played a couple of Joplin pieces
-- "Searchlight Rag" (one of my favorites) and "The Nonpareil",
both of which she did in fine style, with some creative and
highly appropriate embellishments on the repeats.
On Friday, my stack of photocopied sheet music from Audrey had
grown to about 9 inches in thickness, and on Saturday -- to my
utter astonishment -- she handed me another 9 inch stack. I
haven't counted but figure there must be hundreds of individual
pieces in the lot. My plan is to work through them gradually,
separating the wheat from the chaff and adding the ones I like
to my playing repertoire. The process is going to take a while.
Friday and Saturday nights were devoted to dinner concerts in
Zehnder's main dining room. If you're not familiar with
Zehnder's, they are into quantity as well as quality, and the
buffet dinners featured a huge array of wonderfully prepared
dishes to choose from. After stuffing themselves to the gills,
the audience is treated to an evening of music from the
headliners. On Saturday, Mary came up from Ann Arbor to join me,
and we attended the Saturday evening and Sunday brunch concerts
together. On Saturday we found ourselves seated across from Bob
Milne's in-laws from Olivet, and I learned that Bob's wife Linda
-- who accompanies him to all the festivals and helps sell his
sheet music, CD's, and tapes -- is herself a ragtime player.
All the concerts were good, but Saturday night's was especially
so -- the performers were in top form and their energy level was
high.
I took advantage of the "open piano" opportunities in Zehnders'
lounge to play some more pieces, include Sue Keller's "Cranberry
Stomp" with Keller in the room. I've always been prone to
nervousness performing in public and find that informal
opportunities like after-hours sessions at ragtime festivals are
a good opportunity for more experience, which seems to help get
the anxiety level under control. "It gets easier", as they say.
Audrey Van Dyke has also filed a report on the Frankenmuth
festival, in the newsgroup news:rec.music.ragtime. It doesn't
seem to have been indexed by Altavista yet, but when it does
I'll post the URL here.
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lumen
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response 104 of 256:
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May 12 23:51 UTC 1998 |
John, I'm working on composing a ragtime piece. It's simple and somewhat
cliche, but let me know if you'd like to take a look at it.
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orinoco
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response 105 of 256:
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May 13 02:15 UTC 1998 |
A conspiracy of the Johns, eh? :)
I'd be interested in seeing that piece when it's finished, lumen...
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