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slynne
response 79 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 03:56 UTC 2004

Wow. Thanks Joe. I agree with everything you have said in resp:78
happyboy
response 80 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 07:33 UTC 2004

this discussion has gone on longer than is comfortable for me.


i hope i don't get a tummyache because of it.


                :(
cmcgee
response 81 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 12:50 UTC 2004

Go Joe!  Go Lynne!  Thanks for articulating why I'm staying.  I too wish I
could "kick out" the people I perceive as "ruining" Grex.  But I value Grex
more than I dislike them.  And I want other people to realize that there are
quite a few of us who want to be in a community where healthy interactions
are the -norm-.
iggy
response 82 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 14:29 UTC 2004

huh.. i didn't get the same thing out of slynne and jmsaul that
cmcgee appeared to.  i thought they were saying it is much healthier
to learn to deal with people rather than to kick everyone out so you can
have a private sanctuary.
jp2
response 83 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 14:41 UTC 2004

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remmers
response 84 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 16:51 UTC 2004

I didn't read cmcgee's "I too" as referring to slynne and jmsaul.

And *I too* applaud what they said.  :)
tod
response 85 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 17:51 UTC 2004

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keesan
response 86 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 18:04 UTC 2004

I have not kicked people out.  I use tools to avoid having to deal with the
messes they make, such as the ignore command, or fixseen when someone posts
all over agora or scribbles all over agora.  If everyone did this the vandals
might get bored and go away.  
jp2
response 87 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 18:09 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 88 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 18:28 UTC 2004

All that is fine, but it isn't about changing *grex* in any way - it's about
people essentially developing thicker skins or the ilk.  And that isn't
something "grex" can do, other than perhaps posting a "warning" during
newuser or other places.  So, while people leaving grex because they were
stressed out over the item killing kaper may be unfortunate, unless grex is
to become a private members-only club where no mean / nasty people would ever
show up, those as bailed, well "sorry to see you go, but..."
tod
response 89 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:25 UTC 2004

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anderyn
response 90 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:39 UTC 2004

I think that a warning about this being the internet, etc. might be
appropriate. Seriously.
scott
response 91 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:40 UTC 2004

*I* can develop a thicker skin.  What about the jerks who are also driving
away new users, by entering abusive responses in party or Agora item 1?
iggy
response 92 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:53 UTC 2004

i highly doubt new users are helpless, defenseless little bunnies that need
someone charging in on a white horse and chainmail to protect them.
happyboy
response 93 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 19:57 UTC 2004

re91: i'll assume that you consider me to be one of *the jerks*

      who are the newusers who i have driven away?  i want names
     scott.  in fact i want names of any folks who have been
driven away by *the jerks*
keesan
response 94 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 20:46 UTC 2004

That is not the point.  If I were a potential user of grex, and the first and
probably only thing I saw here was name-calling, I would go away.
scott
response 95 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 21:11 UTC 2004

Re 93:  Easy enough.  I'm not calling you one of the
jerks-who-are-trying-to-drive-people-away.  I'm referring more to polytarp.

Although I'll certainly give you an honorary "jerk" for your pointless demand
for essentially uncollectable data.  ;)
albaugh
response 96 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 21:34 UTC 2004

I don't see any way that grex can remain "grex" and at the same time preclude
jerky users.
tod
response 97 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 21:57 UTC 2004

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krj
response 98 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:00 UTC 2004

"Grex: Where The Weak Are Killed and Eaten."
cyklone
response 99 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:13 UTC 2004

"Grex: Doing Personal Favors For Favored Persons"
tod
response 100 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:19 UTC 2004

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anderyn
response 101 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:21 UTC 2004

So we do personal favors for favored persons. How do I get on the a-list?
Enquiring minds want to know.
scott
response 102 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 23:06 UTC 2004

Founding a Grex and writing a great deal of its software, spending at least
5 years on the board and over 10 years on staff... yeah, good thing we got
rid of that worthless valerie person.
jmsaul
response 103 of 155: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 23:14 UTC 2004

Re #91:  You have the same four choices about them, Scott.  With the
         additional note that you *could* restrict certain items or
         conferences to "approved" users or "approved" posts while still
         leaving the rest of the system open -- but those restricted areas
         wouldn't really be very Grex-like.  I suspect a lot of people
         you value wouldn't be comfortable in moderated or restricted
         places.
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