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mdw
response 76 of 126: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 19:09 UTC 1998

Traditionally, we've done this sort of thing online.
keesan
response 77 of 126: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 22:57 UTC 1998

Why not also have board meetings online?  Can Ytalk handle more than three?
steve
response 78 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 04:24 UTC 1998

   It's an interesting idea, and in fact M-Net has tried that once
or twice.  It does allow for people from all over to attend, but
has the usual limiting human interaction problems.

   Party is the best mechanism for something like this, I think.
remmers
response 79 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 09:27 UTC 1998

The polls are now open. To vote or to get info on the election, type
"vote" at a Unix prompt or "!vote" at a bbs or shell prompt. Or you
can vote on the web at  http://cyberspace.org/cgi-bin/pw/voting-booth

Any user can vote, but only the votes of members in good standing will
be counted, of course.
remmers
response 80 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 09:33 UTC 1998

I should also point out that you can vote more than once. If you cast
a ballot and later change your mind about who you want to vote for,
just run the program again and re-vote. Your new selections replace
the old.
scott
response 81 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 11:47 UTC 1998

I just voted!
mta
response 82 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 15:46 UTC 1998

I voted!  (Have you?)

I don't like the idea of a face to face "meet the candidate" meeting because
it cuts off people who live too far away to make it to such a meeting.  By
keeping it on-line, everyone has the same opportunity to get to know the
candidates.
jep
response 83 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 16:30 UTC 1998

I'm much more likely to vote for someone if I've met them and know about 
them.  I voted for 3 candidates whom I've met.  It may be unfair to the 
others, whom I haven't met.  I missed voting for some really good 
people, I am sure.
rcurl
response 84 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 17:15 UTC 1998

Does it depend upon *what* you know about them?
jep
response 85 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 17:59 UTC 1998

I thought all of the candidates in this election were excellent.  
I haven't seen much in their campaign statements to distinguish them, 
one from another.  They're all in favor of Grex, and none disagree with 
the basic concept of what Grex should be about.  None of them have said 
anything I disagree with.  If I knew all of the candidates equally well, 
and my impressions of all of them turned out to be correct, I think it 
would have been difficult for me to choose any 3 over the rest.

Naturally if I knew something about a candidate that I thought made him 
a bad choice, it would affect my decision-making process.  Am I just too 
obtuse today to recognize a joke?

janc
response 86 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 21:02 UTC 1998

Hmmm...The "campaign statement" I had up was one that rolled over from
the last election two years ago.  Still mostly applied, but I've written
a new one now.

It's a hard list to choose from.  Maybe I'll skip voting for myself so I
can vote for more of the other good candidates.  I've met them all, so
that doesn't help at all.  (No wonder Valerie always gets elected -
she's met everyone).  
cmcgee
response 87 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 03:49 UTC 1998

Just to make sure: I'm _not_ able to run in this election.  I don't think I
accepted the nomination, but I did get email from Remmers.  Unfortunately,
chaos is happening, and my current commitments are all that I can handle. 
I'm appreciative of the nomination, but......
<sigh>
remmers
response 88 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 11:35 UTC 1998

I interpreted your earlier remarks as a conditional acceptance, and your
name is on the ballot. I'll remove your name and notify members via
email of the ballot change. They can then revote if they wish. (Yet
another benefit of allowing folks to vote more than once!)
remmers
response 89 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 16:00 UTC 1998

Colleen's name has been removed. I've sent mail to everyone who voted
so far notifying them of the change. (The mail was sent via a script
that I cobbled together rather quickly. Hopefully it worked.)
cmcgee
response 90 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 16:48 UTC 1998

Thanks.
valerie
response 91 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 17:50 UTC 1998

This response has been erased.

steve
response 92 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:12 UTC 1998

   If I had a problem with it, I'd squawk.

   I suppose, when that magical day occurs that we have so many staff
that they wander the hallways of Grex looking for something to do, that
we could have an election official.

   But I trust John implicitly.  I trust all the rootfolk here and I 
think that others do, too.
dpc
response 93 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 19:25 UTC 1998

I have no problem with John running the election at all.
krj
response 94 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 22:06 UTC 1998

I have a question or two which I might like to put forth to the 
candidates.  Should I just start a new coop item for each question?
It would seem redundant for me to pose the question in each candidate's
campaign item, assuming they have one.
 
Or should there just be one free-for-all ask-the-candidates item?
 
I'm seeking a little guidance on structure here.
steve
response 95 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 22:41 UTC 1998

   I'd start an item in coop and asked that it be linked to agora, maybe.
remmers
response 96 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 00:18 UTC 1998

Re #91-93: The same thought (appropriateness of me being election czar
and simultaneously a candidate, at least from the point of view of
appearance) occurred to me. It's happened twice before though, and
nobody voiced any concerns, so I let it ride. From a practical point of
view, in terms of the security of the balloting, I don't think it makes
any difference who the election official is. The votes are stored
online, source to vote program is accessible to any staff member, and
any vote-tampering that I could do could also be done by any root. So it
all boils down to trusting the roots, regardless of who's officially "in
charge".

If there's a feeling of discomfort with the arrangment, though, I'd be
quite willing to step aside and let some other staffer take over.

Re resp:94 - I like the idea of one free-for-all ask-the-candidates
item. Whenever there's an election, I always like to put a pointer to a
discussion item on the ballot and in the motd, and that would give me an
item to point to. (I could put pointers to all candidates' statement
items, but that would bloat things a bit, I think.)
remmers
response 97 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 11:46 UTC 1998

Re resp:91 first paragraph: For obscure technical reasons, I think the
mail I sent out went to the address popcorn@cyberspace.org. Is that mail
shunted to the right place?
steve
response 98 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 12:15 UTC 1998

  Yes--it gets forwarded to her.
janc
response 99 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 17:35 UTC 1998

I don't think I got email notification either (I had voted for Colleen),
but I'm not 100% sure that it isn't lurking in the depths of my staff
mail box - shouldn't go there though.
remmers
response 100 of 126: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 18:13 UTC 1998

Yes, if you go there, you might never get out.

Hm, I voted and so got a copy of my own message. I wonder if the problem
was that my script invoked sendmail directly in a tight loop. Does
sendmail have some anti-spam measure in place that rejects rapid-fire
mail from the same address to a bunch of different users?
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