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Grex > Books > #77: The Mysterious Quote - Fall 1998 Edition | |
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sjones
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response 76 of 207:
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Nov 4 13:00 UTC 1998 |
brilliant! you've no idea how pleased i am to see you! it was: When
I opened my eyes we were by a bend in the road, and a peasant girl in a
black shawl waved to us; I can see her now, her dusty skirt, her
gleaming, friendly smile, and in a second we had passed the bend and
could see her no more. Already she belonged to the past, she was only a
memory.
or at least that was the end of it - and ye gods, i don't know either of
those (rebecca being the exception)! hey ho; here was me thinking it
sounded familiar...<hollow laugh>...
so which, please please, and authors?...)
...thank-you!
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jiffer
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response 77 of 207:
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Nov 4 19:40 UTC 1998 |
E M Forrester?
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mcnally
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response 78 of 207:
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Nov 5 07:57 UTC 1998 |
OK, new quote as promised:
"Orwell -- and let us never forget that he was an Eton boy
from a fairly privileged background -- regarded the labouring
classes the way we might regard Yap Islanders, as a strange
but interesting anthropological phenomenon. In 'Wigan Pier' he
records how one of the great panic moments of his boyhood years
was when he found himself in the company of a group of working
men and thought he would have to dring from a bottle they were
passing round. Ever since I read this I've had my doubts about
old George frankly. Certainly he makes the working class of
the 1930s seem disgustingly filthy, but in fact every piece of
evidence I've ever seen shows that most of them were almost
obsessively dedicated to cleanliness. My own father-in-law
grew up in an environment of starkest poverty and used to tell
the most appalling stories of deprivation -- you know the kind
of thing: father killed in a factory accident, thirty-seven
brothers and sisters, nothing for tea but lichen broth and a
piece of roofing slate except on Sundays when they might trade
in a child for a penny's worth of rotten parsnips, and all that
sort of thing. And *his* father-in-law, a Yorkshireman, used to
tell even more appalling stories of hopping 47 miles to school
because he only had one boot and subsisting on a diet of stale
buns and snot butties. 'But,' they would both invariably add,
'we were always clean and the house was always spotless.'"
Beware of jumping to incorrect conclusions..
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remmers
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response 79 of 207:
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Nov 5 11:30 UTC 1998 |
Interesting quote. The spelling of "labouring" suggests that the author
is not American. (But maybe that's an "incorrect conclusion" that I
should beware of jumping to.)
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sjones
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response 80 of 207:
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Nov 5 14:01 UTC 1998 |
it does sound very english - but too light-hearted to be serious
biography... love that hopping 47 miles bit. the father-in-law
reference leads me to wonder if it might be bill bryson, and something
like notes from a small island?
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mcnally
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response 81 of 207:
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Nov 5 17:21 UTC 1998 |
Indeed. Good guess.. I thought that one might be a bit easy
(especially since I mentioned the book in the "what have you
read lately?" item in the books conference) so I tried to choose
a misleading passage.
sjones has correctly identified both the author and the book.
I'd recommend "Notes From a Small Island" -- it's a humorous
account of a writer's last trip through Britain before moving
back to the USA, after having spent (seven?) years there..
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sjones
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response 82 of 207:
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Nov 6 11:20 UTC 1998 |
cool! i'm all excited...) and please call me simon... is the
'w.h.y.r.l.' item lively? must try it...
in the meantime, have a go at this - don't know whether it'll be easy or
not...
'There in the dusty light from the one small window on shelves of
roughsawed pine stood a collection of fruitjars and bottles with ground
glass stoppers and old apothecary jars all bearing antique octagon
labels edged in red upon which in Echols' neat script were listed
contents and dates. In the jars dark liquids. Dried viscera. Liver,
gall, kidneys. The inward parts of the beast who dreams of man and has
so dreamt in running dreams a hundred thousand years and more. Dreams
of that malignant lesser god come pale and naked and alien to slaughter
all his clan and kin and rout them from their house. A god insatiable
whom no ceding could appease nor any measure of blood. The jars stood
webbed in dust and the light among them made of the little room with its
chemic glass a strange basilica dedicated to a practice as soon to be
extinct among the trades of men as the beast to whom it owed its being.'
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remmers
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response 83 of 207:
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Nov 6 12:25 UTC 1998 |
H.P. Lovecraft?
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sjones
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response 84 of 207:
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Nov 6 14:01 UTC 1998 |
i can see why you say that, but the mystical'swords&sorcery'-sounding
elements are something of a sidetrack here; this is a writer who is very
firmly grounded in reality, it's just that his description is, er,
idiosyncratic...)
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aruba
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response 85 of 207:
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Nov 8 18:24 UTC 1998 |
Well, I was going to guess Poe, but I don't really think he was "firmly
grounded in reality".
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mcnally
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response 86 of 207:
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Nov 9 02:19 UTC 1998 |
Likewise, I was going to guess Roald Dahl but I wouldn't think that
that description applied to him, either, except perhaps in direct
comparison with Lovecraft..
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sekari
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response 87 of 207:
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Nov 9 04:56 UTC 1998 |
you thought it was the BFG too?
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sjones
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response 88 of 207:
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Nov 9 14:38 UTC 1998 |
no to poe and a snarl at dahl - you'll enjoy looking back at the bfg
when you've got what this is...)
um... not sure how to give clues that don't just give it away. you
*could* connect this novel to a major genre, definitively linked to
america, but it's not exactly a typical example of the genre... is that
too vague? if you work out 'the beast who dreams of man' you'll be
getting a lot closer...
and just say when you think it's time for another quote from the same
text...)
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aruba
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response 89 of 207:
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Nov 9 14:44 UTC 1998 |
Hmmm. Some of that clue makes me think of "The Mists of Avalon" by Marion
Zimmer Bradley, but the American thing kinda blows it. I'll guess her anyway.
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remmers
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response 90 of 207:
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Nov 9 16:00 UTC 1998 |
I'd rule out Bradley on the "firmly grounded in reality" bit though.
The only major genre strongly linked to America that I can think of
is the western. At least one Jack London piece had a western setting
and was told from the viewpoint of a beast ("The Call of the Wild").
Also, London's writing was "naturalistic". So I'll guess him.
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sjones
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response 91 of 207:
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Nov 9 17:33 UTC 1998 |
sorry, you're right that marion zimmer bradley's wrong... on both
counts...)
but remmers is heading straight in the right direction with the genre,
although jack london is too long ago... and never really quite that
pyrotechnic... oh, and it's the right beast, too...)
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davel
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response 92 of 207:
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Nov 10 15:16 UTC 1998 |
Well, in that case I'll guess Louis L'Amour, completely coming in from nowhere
but the last 2 responses.
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aruba
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response 93 of 207:
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Nov 10 16:53 UTC 1998 |
Well, Farley Mowatt wrote about wolves, so I'll guess him.
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sjones
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response 94 of 207:
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Nov 10 19:24 UTC 1998 |
wow - i've never heard of either louis l'amour or farley mowatt (so no
to both...)
here, try another bit from the same book:
'They rode after dinner the three of them the nine miles to the SK Bar
ranch and sat their horses and halloed the house. Mr Sanders'
granddaughter looked out and went to get the old man and they all sat on
the porch while their father told Mr Sanders about the wolf. Mr Sanders
sat with his elbows on his knees and looked hard at the porch
floorboards between his boots and nodded and from time to time with his
little finger tipped the ash from the end of his cigarette. When their
father was done he looked up. His eyes were very blue and very
beautiful half hid away in the leathery seams of his face. As if there
were something there that the hardness of the country had not been able
to touch.'
it's his concept of sentence structure which <i think> makes him stand
out...
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remmers
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response 95 of 207:
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Nov 10 21:33 UTC 1998 |
He seems to be a master of the run-on sentence. :)
I don't read westerns and so am not familiar with the various authors'
styles, just a few names. So I'll pick a name out of a hat: Zane Grey.
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mary
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response 96 of 207:
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Nov 10 22:56 UTC 1998 |
This sounds badly written enough to be by the
guy who wrote _Bridges of Madison County_.
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senna
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response 97 of 207:
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Nov 11 01:39 UTC 1998 |
Carl Sagan?
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sjones
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response 98 of 207:
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Nov 11 14:47 UTC 1998 |
zane grey is still not recent enough - you're after someone still
writing today - and it's not the bridges of madison county author or
good old carl...
looking back at the second passage, i can see why you might think it's
written badly - but it's all very deliberate, and i reckon he's the most
powerful writer of descriptive prose alive, in his enormously
idiosyncratic way... for example:
'He watched the night sky through the front room window. The earliest
stars coined out of the dark coping to the south hanging in the dead
wickerwork of the trees along the river. The light of the unrisen moon
lying in a sulphur haze over the valley to the east. He watched while
the light ran out along the edges of the desert prairie and the dome of
the moon rose out of the ground white and fat and membranous. Then he
climbed down from the chair where he'd been kneeling and went to get his
brother.'
and the run-on sentence? you bet! i've not quoted any of the *long*
ones yet...:)
he breaks rules, to be sure; but then again, so did hemingway...
er... being new to all this, i'm not entirely sure what sort of clues to
offer - so feel free to ask for hints in areas where you think it might
help...
how about: he lives in el paso, texas, and the new york times book
review called him a 'great and inventive storyteller...<who> writes
brilliantly and knowledgeably about animals and landscapes.'
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remmers
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response 99 of 207:
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Nov 11 15:43 UTC 1998 |
A contemporary Texas author. Don't know of many. I believe Larry
McMurtry is a Texan, but I don't think this is him.
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jep
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response 100 of 207:
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Nov 11 16:32 UTC 1998 |
James Herriot is not an American, but I'll throw that in as a guess
anyway.
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