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sjones
response 76 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 13:00 UTC 1998

brilliant!  you've no idea how pleased i am to see you! it was: When
I opened my eyes we were by a bend in the road, and a peasant girl in a 
black shawl waved to us; I can see her now, her dusty skirt, her 
gleaming, friendly smile, and in a second we had passed the bend and 
could see her no more. Already she belonged to the past, she was only a 
memory.
or at least that was the end of it - and ye gods, i don't know either of 
those (rebecca being the exception)!  hey ho; here was me thinking it 
sounded familiar...<hollow laugh>...
so which, please please, and authors?...)
                                         ...thank-you!
jiffer
response 77 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 4 19:40 UTC 1998

E M Forrester?
mcnally
response 78 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 07:57 UTC 1998

  OK, new quote as promised:

        "Orwell -- and let us never forget that he was an Eton boy
        from a fairly privileged background -- regarded the labouring
        classes the way we might regard Yap Islanders, as a strange
        but interesting anthropological phenomenon.  In 'Wigan Pier' he
        records how one of the great panic moments of his boyhood years
        was when he found himself in the company of a group of working
        men and thought he would have to dring from a bottle they were
        passing round.  Ever since I read this I've had my doubts about
        old George frankly.  Certainly he makes the working class of
        the 1930s seem disgustingly filthy, but in fact every piece of
        evidence I've ever seen shows that most of them were almost
        obsessively dedicated to cleanliness.  My own father-in-law
        grew up in an environment of starkest poverty and used to tell
        the most appalling stories of deprivation -- you know the kind
        of thing:  father killed in a factory accident, thirty-seven
        brothers and sisters, nothing for tea but lichen broth and a
        piece of roofing slate except on Sundays when they might trade
        in a child for a penny's worth of rotten parsnips, and all that
        sort of thing.  And *his* father-in-law, a Yorkshireman, used to
        tell even more appalling stories of hopping 47 miles to school
        because he only had one boot and subsisting on a diet of stale
        buns and snot butties.  'But,' they would both invariably add,
        'we were always clean and the house was always spotless.'"


  Beware of jumping to incorrect conclusions..
remmers
response 79 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 11:30 UTC 1998

Interesting quote. The spelling of "labouring" suggests that the author
is not American. (But maybe that's an "incorrect conclusion" that I
should beware of jumping to.)
sjones
response 80 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 14:01 UTC 1998

it does sound very english - but too light-hearted to be serious 
biography... love that hopping 47 miles bit.  the father-in-law 
reference leads me to wonder if it might be bill bryson, and something 
like notes from a small island?
mcnally
response 81 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 17:21 UTC 1998

  Indeed.  Good guess..  I thought that one might be a bit easy
  (especially since I mentioned the book in the "what have you
  read lately?" item in the books conference) so I tried to choose
  a misleading passage.

  sjones has correctly identified both the author and the book.
  I'd recommend "Notes From a Small Island" -- it's a humorous
  account of a writer's last trip through Britain before moving
  back to the USA, after having spent (seven?) years there..
sjones
response 82 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 11:20 UTC 1998

cool!  i'm all excited...)  and please call me simon... is the 
'w.h.y.r.l.' item lively?  must try it...
in the meantime, have a go at this - don't know whether it'll be easy or 
not...
'There in the dusty light from the one small window on shelves of 
roughsawed pine stood a collection of fruitjars and bottles with ground 
glass stoppers and old apothecary jars all bearing antique octagon 
labels edged in red upon which in Echols' neat script were listed 
contents and dates.  In the jars dark liquids.  Dried viscera.  Liver, 
gall, kidneys.  The inward parts of the beast who dreams of man and has 
so dreamt in running dreams a hundred thousand years and more.  Dreams 
of that malignant lesser god come pale and naked and alien to slaughter 
all his clan and kin and rout them from their house.  A god insatiable 
whom no ceding could appease nor any measure of blood.  The jars stood 
webbed in dust and the light among them made of the little room with its 
chemic glass a strange basilica dedicated to a practice as soon to be 
extinct among the trades of men as the beast to whom it owed its being.'
remmers
response 83 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 12:25 UTC 1998

H.P. Lovecraft?
sjones
response 84 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 14:01 UTC 1998

i can see why you say that, but the mystical'swords&sorcery'-sounding 
elements are something of a sidetrack here; this is a writer who is very 
firmly grounded in reality, it's just that his description is, er, 
idiosyncratic...)
aruba
response 85 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 18:24 UTC 1998

Well, I was going to guess Poe, but I don't really think he was "firmly
grounded in reality".
mcnally
response 86 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 02:19 UTC 1998

  Likewise, I was going to guess Roald Dahl but I wouldn't think that
  that description applied to him, either, except perhaps in direct
  comparison with Lovecraft..
sekari
response 87 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 04:56 UTC 1998

you thought it was the BFG too?
sjones
response 88 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 14:38 UTC 1998

no to poe and a snarl at dahl - you'll enjoy looking back at the bfg 
when you've got what this is...)

um... not sure how to give clues that don't just give it away.  you 
*could* connect this novel to a major genre, definitively linked to 
america, but it's not exactly a typical example of the genre... is that 
too vague?  if you work out 'the beast who dreams of man' you'll be 
getting a lot closer...

and just say when you think it's time for another quote from the same 
text...)
aruba
response 89 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 14:44 UTC 1998

Hmmm.  Some of that clue makes me think of "The Mists of Avalon" by Marion
Zimmer Bradley, but the American thing kinda blows it.  I'll guess her anyway.
remmers
response 90 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 16:00 UTC 1998

I'd rule out Bradley on the "firmly grounded in reality" bit though.

The only major genre strongly linked to America that I can think of
is the western. At least one Jack London piece had a western setting
and was told from the viewpoint of a beast ("The Call of the Wild").
Also, London's writing was "naturalistic". So I'll guess him.
sjones
response 91 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 17:33 UTC 1998

sorry, you're right that marion zimmer bradley's wrong... on both 
counts...)

but remmers is heading straight in the right direction with the genre, 
although jack london is too long ago... and never really quite that 
pyrotechnic... oh, and it's the right beast, too...)
davel
response 92 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 15:16 UTC 1998

Well, in that case I'll guess Louis L'Amour, completely coming in from nowhere
but the last 2 responses.
aruba
response 93 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 16:53 UTC 1998

Well, Farley Mowatt wrote about wolves, so I'll guess him.
sjones
response 94 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 19:24 UTC 1998

wow - i've never heard of either louis l'amour or farley mowatt (so no 
to both...)

here, try another bit from the same book:
'They rode after dinner the three of them the nine miles to the SK Bar 
ranch and sat their horses and halloed the house.  Mr Sanders' 
granddaughter looked out and went to get the old man and they all sat on 
the porch while their father told Mr Sanders about the wolf.  Mr Sanders 
sat with his elbows on his knees and looked hard at the porch 
floorboards between his boots and nodded and from time to time with his 
little finger tipped the ash from the end of his cigarette.  When their 
father was done he looked up.  His eyes were very blue and very 
beautiful half hid away in the leathery seams of his face.  As if there 
were something there that the hardness of the country had not been able 
to touch.'

it's his concept of sentence structure which <i think> makes him stand 
out...
remmers
response 95 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 21:33 UTC 1998

He seems to be a master of the run-on sentence. :)

I don't read westerns and so am not familiar with the various authors'
styles, just a few names. So I'll pick a name out of a hat: Zane Grey.
mary
response 96 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 22:56 UTC 1998

This sounds badly written enough to be by the
guy who wrote _Bridges of Madison County_.
senna
response 97 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 01:39 UTC 1998

Carl Sagan?
sjones
response 98 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 14:47 UTC 1998

zane grey is still not recent enough - you're after someone still 
writing today - and it's not the bridges of madison county author or 
good old carl...

looking back at the second passage, i can see why you might think it's 
written badly - but it's all very deliberate, and i reckon he's the most 
powerful writer of descriptive prose alive, in his enormously 
idiosyncratic way... for example:

'He watched the night sky through the front room window.  The earliest 
stars coined out of the dark coping to the south hanging in the dead 
wickerwork of the trees along the river.  The light of the unrisen moon 
lying in a sulphur haze over the valley to the east.  He watched while 
the light ran out along the edges of the desert prairie and the dome of 
the moon rose out of the ground white and fat and membranous.  Then he 
climbed down from the chair where he'd been kneeling and went to get his 
brother.'

and the run-on sentence?  you bet!  i've not quoted any of the *long* 
ones yet...:)

he breaks rules, to be sure; but then again, so did hemingway...
 
er... being new to all this, i'm not entirely sure what sort of clues to 
offer - so feel free to ask for hints in areas where you think it might 
help...

how about:  he lives in el paso, texas, and the new york times book 
review called him a 'great and inventive storyteller...<who> writes 
brilliantly and knowledgeably about animals and landscapes.'
remmers
response 99 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 15:43 UTC 1998

A contemporary Texas author. Don't know of many. I believe Larry
McMurtry is a Texan, but I don't think this is him.
jep
response 100 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 16:32 UTC 1998

James Herriot is not an American, but I'll throw that in as a guess 
anyway.
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