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rcurl
response 76 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 01:58 UTC 2008

From termimal? Using its DHCP IP address? I thought this was all built into
OSX. The Printer Browser on the laptop shows the printer, but gives no
location for it. (I'm in the dummy class for a lot of these networking details
so I need help.)
nharmon
response 77 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 04:37 UTC 2008

I would think you should be able to access the printer like you would
from the PCs. What kind of location information do the PCs give?
rcurl
response 78 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 04:58 UTC 2008

I got it to work with the DHCP IP address. The Mac Help helped but the 
procedure is not intuitive. What led me astray is that when I installed 
the printer software, it showed up in the printer selection menu, which I 
thought meant that it saw the printer. But no: one has still to Add the 
printer and give it an arbitrary name and location. There is then an 
obscure menu, which is hard to find, where one chooses the make and model 
of the printer (there are hundreds listed!).


nharmon
response 79 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 05:16 UTC 2008

Well, as unintuitive as it might have seemed, I can assure you it would
have been much more confusing in Windows. :)
nharmon
response 80 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 05:20 UTC 2008

Case in point: My networked laser printer is in the basement while my
windows PC is on the 2nd floor. If I add the printer to the windows PC,
the "add printer wizard" asks if it is a local or network printer. You
have to answer "local" in order to install it.
rcurl
response 81 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 24 22:10 UTC 2008

Another problem I had while trying to get to print across the network was that
my wife was watching streaming video on the wired LAN while I was trying to
print wirelessly from the laptop, which so jammed he pipe that none of my
packets got to the printer until she shut down. 

I'm now wondering if I even had to install the printer driver on the 
laotop, since one of the steps in adding the printer was selecting a make 
and model from a dialog. Does OS 10.4 already have printer drivers? 

arthurp
response 82 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 27 23:43 UTC 2008

Often there is a list of printers for you to install.  And often the
printer you have is not in that list until you install the software that
came with it.

Just to add some complexity here, if you can figure out how to force the
base station to assign the same IP every time, or how to assign to the
printer a static IP on the same network segment but outside the DHCP
range, you may save yourself some trouble later on if the base station
should ever decide to assign a different IP to the printer.  Or you
could just remember that this is a possibility and if the printer every
mysteriously stops working start by checking what IP it is using.
rcurl
response 83 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 29 05:47 UTC 2008

I'll keep that in mind. So far, the IP assignments have been stable. I
don't know where they come from, though. 
rcurl
response 84 of 86: Mark Unseen   Jan 31 22:32 UTC 2008

The success I had in printing mentioned above was a one line test phrase. Now
I am been trying to print a two page WORD document. I had two types of
failures on repeated attempts:

1. After an hour or so *trying* to print, I got "Print file was was not
accepted (client-error-not-found)!

or

2. Error dialog "printer busy, will retry in 10 sec". This every now and then
printed either a blank page or a page with just the first line of the
document.

What's gumming it up? Could it be the driver I installed when I really did
not have to?
gull
response 85 of 86: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 20:38 UTC 2008

Re resp:80: Yeah, the Windows idea of "local printers" and "network
printers'"is utterly confusing until you realize it's really asking
whether it's a local *queue* or not.

I suspect what Microsoft expects is that you'll tie all your network
printers to one central Windows server, and then let all your desktop
systems print through that machine, making the difference moot for
typical users.
rcurl
response 86 of 86: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 17:42 UTC 2008

I wrote Brother (the printer maker) about the problem and they sent me the 
standard procedure for installing a printer uner OS X 10.4 on a network - 
but not on a composite wired and wireless network like I have. Anyway, I 
tried what they suggested, and it didn't work. Now I'm inquiring on an 
apple.com forum. It's a problem, though, in getting answers when the 
system involves a Mac computer and an Apple Airport router, a Brother 
printer, and a MacWireless adapter. Probably as bad as a Windows 
system....

Yes, the usual assumption in printing with an Airport WiFi system is that 
the printer is plugged in a USB or Ethernet port on the router. The 
Airport manual doesn't address the option of a LAN connected to the router 
wirelessly.
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