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Grex > Oldcoop > #205: Member proposal to not use Picospan on NextGrex | |
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mfp
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response 75 of 105:
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Oct 26 01:43 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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naftee
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response 76 of 105:
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Oct 27 02:45 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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mfp
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response 77 of 105:
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Oct 27 03:57 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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naftee
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response 78 of 105:
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Oct 27 21:43 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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mfp
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response 79 of 105:
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Oct 28 01:00 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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gregb
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response 80 of 105:
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Nov 5 18:31 UTC 2004 |
No point
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albaugh
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response 81 of 105:
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Nov 10 22:14 UTC 2004 |
Well, there have been 2+ weeks of discussion about this item. Have 10% of
members supported it going forward to a vote?
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aruba
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response 82 of 105:
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Nov 12 00:52 UTC 2004 |
I only count 3 endorsements in this item - albaugh, aruba, and scott. It
needs 4 more to come to a vote.
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naftee
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response 83 of 105:
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Nov 12 00:55 UTC 2004 |
Why bother?
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cross
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response 84 of 105:
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Nov 13 21:05 UTC 2004 |
I endorse.
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cross
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response 85 of 105:
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Dec 25 15:07 UTC 2004 |
So, whatever happened with this? Not enough people endorsed it?
Now, apparantly, a decision has been made.
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mary
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response 86 of 105:
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Dec 25 15:42 UTC 2004 |
I'd really like to see us get away from Picospan. But you know
what? In this case I think the ONE and ONLY person doing ALL the
work gets a really strong say in how it goes, at least for the next
chunk of time. If Jan says Fronttalk isn't ready, and he is going
to focus on getting NextGrex up first, that's just fine by me.
But hey, don't let that stop you from complaining about HIS effort.
It's the Grex way.
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ryan
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response 87 of 105:
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Dec 25 18:29 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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albaugh
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response 88 of 105:
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Dec 25 23:25 UTC 2004 |
mary, if you would really like to see us get away from picospan, express your
support for this motion, and get a few other members to do so, then it can
be brought up for a vote, and maybe the membership will descide "out with
picospan".
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cross
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response 89 of 105:
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Dec 26 05:41 UTC 2004 |
Mary, you really have a way with words.
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mfp
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response 90 of 105:
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Dec 26 05:48 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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mfp
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response 91 of 105:
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Dec 26 05:48 UTC 2004 |
If you ask John nicely, he'll tell you about some other things she really has
a way with.
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blaise
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response 92 of 105:
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Dec 29 15:20 UTC 2004 |
I cannot in good conscience endorse this proposal in its current form.
I would endorse a proposal to switch to fronttalk as the default
interface keeping picospan available until such time as there was
consensus that the fronttalk interface was as robust and stable as the
picospan interface and then disabling picospan, but I feel that the
current proposal is too abrupt given the current state (according to its
author) of fronttalk.
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mary
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response 93 of 105:
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Dec 29 15:22 UTC 2004 |
I agree.
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cross
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response 94 of 105:
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Dec 29 15:48 UTC 2004 |
It's a bit late now.
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remmers
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response 95 of 105:
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Dec 29 17:13 UTC 2004 |
Right - the proposal passed the 30-day expiration limit some time ago.
Anyway, Picospan on NextGrex is now a fait accompli.
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tod
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response 96 of 105:
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Dec 29 17:30 UTC 2004 |
I translate this item (205) and item (105) as:
Janc is doing all the work so tough shit if there are other volunteers or
other preferences from members.
Too bad the governance of Grex (despite claims of an online democracy)
obviously hasn't changed any in over a decade.
With that, I say, nice work Jan. The system runs very fast.
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janc
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response 97 of 105:
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Dec 29 17:53 UTC 2004 |
Am I being cast as the villian who is preventing Grex from moving
to Fronttalk by exercising my defacto monopoly on system configuration
decisions?
Impressive what you can see through the power of the Force, even
with the blast sheild down.
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tod
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response 98 of 105:
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Dec 29 18:29 UTC 2004 |
It was efficient and painless. I applaud the entire process. I could see
the migration being bogged down at the cost of continued debates. On the
contrary, I see the villains as the folks that can't appreciate that Grex got
here in short order with minimal cooks in the kitchen. M-Net has sort of a
similar philosphy in "monopoly on system configuration" by giving Rex the
sysadmin keys to the kingdom.
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keesan
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response 99 of 105:
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Dec 29 19:14 UTC 2004 |
Jan, thanks for making a few decisions needed to get the new grex running this
week. Hopefully the more important bugs will all be squashed in the next few
days by you and other helpful staff and non-staff. I really appreciate the
quick fix of procmail.
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