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diznave
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response 75 of 115:
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Oct 8 12:20 UTC 1997 |
How many words can you get out of the name Thelonious Monk:
tone, sonnet, thin, moon, loon, stool, hint, knot, shot, slim, melt, ...
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bruin
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response 76 of 115:
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Oct 8 14:29 UTC 1997 |
RE #75 How about "monk?"
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orinoco
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response 77 of 115:
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Oct 8 23:03 UTC 1997 |
milk, smut, loom, think, slit...
If you allow Thelonious Sphere Monk, you can get monikers, kneeler, and
pontoons...
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lumen
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response 78 of 115:
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Oct 8 23:41 UTC 1997 |
Oh geez..
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scott
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response 79 of 115:
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Oct 11 23:51 UTC 1997 |
I'm finding that I really don't like jazz that much.
Things in favor of jazz:
1. Harmonically very complex
2. Many ways to interperet songs, with interesting results.
Things I don't like:
1. Rythmically very limited. Sure, there's Brubeck's "Take 5", but
that is one tune out of how many? And it is amazing how many solos are
just strings of 1/8th notes.
2. Emotionally very limited. The sound, to me, seems to be filtered
through the "cool" filter that makes it sound "jazzy". So it all seems
to be in the context of a performance by people heavily concerned with
image as well as music... entertainers, in a very nightclub sense.
And what I find really weird is the rock and jazz combinations. Despite
the common roots, the two forms seem very incompatible to me. Rock
music, to me, has a very wide range of emotion, from anger to joy to
things in between.
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raven
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response 80 of 115:
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Oct 12 04:24 UTC 1997 |
re #79 Perhaps you have only listened to be-bop jazz ala Miles Davis. Jazz
has an incredible range of styles from the John Cage influnced disonance
of Sun Ra, to the Latin funk influenced post hip-hop acid jazz of Groove
Collective. I do not know how to count out measures so i can't tell you
whether either of these muscians breaks a 4/4 time signature but you might
try talking to someone who knows about jazz (maybe Schoolkids records) to
find jazz with more unususal meters.
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orinoco
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response 81 of 115:
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Oct 12 19:41 UTC 1997 |
What raven said. If you've heard me ranting against Mike Grace earlier in
the item, that would be why - he's absolutely fixated on bebop.
Recently, actually, I've been listening to some New Orleans brass band
stuff - the Dirty Dozen Brass Band being my favorite. It's probably as far
removed from bebop as jazz gets, but still recognizable as jass, and very
listenable.
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mcnally
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response 82 of 115:
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Oct 13 01:07 UTC 1997 |
So with such a wide range covered under one term, how do you know
what's "Jazz" and what isn't? I really dislike the question "do you
like jazz?" since it seems almost meaningless to me. How does one
respond when the word "jazz" is comprehensive enough to include
everything from Billie Holiday to Sun Ra to Kenny G (aieeee!) ?
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orinoco
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response 83 of 115:
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Oct 13 01:52 UTC 1997 |
Well, when you think about it "Classical" - meaning anything from Stravinski
to Gregorian Chant - or "Alternative" - meaning either ska, punk, rock, folk,
or anything else - are equally vague.
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mziemba
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response 84 of 115:
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Oct 13 06:37 UTC 1997 |
As much as we may dislike labels, they are an essential component of the
ability to grasp the unknown, or, at least, the unfamiliar. We group things
together to make things more accessible. By aggregating items with common
traits, we make something more familiar, and can begin to concentrate on other
details, without the distraction of examing everything at once. Pattern
recognition is a very significant aspect of assimilating a large body of
unfamiliar information. Understanding its limitations, grouping need not be
seen so distastefully...
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jiffer
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response 85 of 115:
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Oct 13 06:40 UTC 1997 |
I sometimes wonder if we should label music... music should be labled "like"
and "dislike" via persons personal opinion
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mcnally
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response 86 of 115:
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Oct 13 15:20 UTC 1997 |
I don't dislike labels, I just like them to be useful and descriptive.
To me "jazz" is the musical equivalent of "stuff" in that it is too
over-encompassing to be very useul in drawing conclusions about the
work to which it is applied.
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diznave
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response 87 of 115:
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Oct 15 17:35 UTC 1997 |
I agree, Mikebut no matter how specific you get in your labeling, it is always
possible to get more specific, until you have narrowed your grouping down to
a single group (or artist). So when I say that I like jazz, I would hope that
you wouldn't jump to any conclusions (like, say, that I like Kenny G), but
that you would enquire further as to what kinds of jazz I enjoy. If you tell
me you like to fly, I might ask you if mean as a passenger on a commercial
airline, or as a pilot on a private plane. That's one of the beauties of
language: it ambiguity. ;->
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mziemba
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response 88 of 115:
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Feb 12 07:06 UTC 1998 |
I'm just getting onto Louis Armstrong. Thought I'd listen to an introductory
collection, then jump into more. The Oscar Peterson/Louis Armstrong album
looked like a good additional choice, now that I've enjoyed some common
favorites.
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mziemba
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response 89 of 115:
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Feb 12 07:06 UTC 1998 |
Ok, that should "into", not "onto"...
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orinoco
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response 90 of 115:
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Feb 13 04:55 UTC 1998 |
(Interesting mental image, that)
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eeyore
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response 91 of 115:
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Feb 18 07:02 UTC 1998 |
I just got a great Louis Armstrong/Ella Fitzgerald cd...theres a bunch of
REALLY great songs that the two of them do together, and there are a few cd's
of them....I like Louis alot by himself, but the two of them as a
duet....YUM! :)
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mziemba
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response 92 of 115:
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Feb 18 20:10 UTC 1998 |
Yeah, I think I saw that one! I love Ella Fitzgerald, too.
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eeyore
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response 93 of 115:
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Feb 18 23:43 UTC 1998 |
There are more then just one....I had to decide between three cd's that looked
good, and a couple that didn't...
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teflon
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response 94 of 115:
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Feb 19 02:18 UTC 1998 |
I have a Satchmo/Dutchess album, which I thouroghly enjoy, espectially thier
renditions of "Summertime", and "It Ain't Nessessarily So". The only thing
I regret about that album is that it doesn't include "Baby it's Cold Outside".
Oh, well, I suppose you can't have everything...
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eeyore
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response 95 of 115:
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Mar 7 14:40 UTC 1998 |
One of the ones that I almost bought was a 2 or three disk set....but of
course, all the disks were sepperate.....I might still get them all,
anyway...:)
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mziemba
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response 96 of 115:
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Mar 26 05:24 UTC 1998 |
I'm almost done reading Louis Armstrong`s autobiography: _Satchmo_. It's
a fun read. You get a good sense of how his good upbringing, affable nature,
and dedication carried him through some rough times, growing up. I learned
a little bit about early 1900`s New Orleans, too...
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teflon
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response 97 of 115:
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Mar 29 20:18 UTC 1998 |
sounds neat. I should go look for it sometime.
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diznave
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response 98 of 115:
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May 15 17:38 UTC 1998 |
The whole story of the birth of jazz, and what was going on in New Orleans
at the turn of the century is facinating.
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mziemba
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response 99 of 115:
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May 16 12:55 UTC 1998 |
Arwulf was reading some excerpts from _We Called it Music_ the other day
on his WEMU jazz show regarding Fats Waller. The book is apparently a
collection of anecdotes by a jazz insider, and looks to be some fairly
interesting reading. The astute Da Capo publishers put this one out...
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