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raven
response 75 of 145: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 23:31 UTC 1997

Also Pacifica evening news is on the web in real audio, I think that's
www,pacifica.org, though I will have to double check that URL.
diznave
response 76 of 145: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 04:49 UTC 1997

Er,.....that's Taoism, I mean. ;->
krj
response 77 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 19:10 UTC 1997

Today's news:  Detroit's commercial classical music station, WQRS, 
is being converted to some rock format, as yet unannounced.
This addresses the desperate shortage of rock radio in the 
Detroit area.  (*ahem*)
 
It's another demonstration of the need to manage the limited resource 
of the radio spectrum on socialist principles.    
WQRS was making a tidy profit and had the #12 audience share in Detroit.  
In a free market, WQRS would have gone on being a profitable 
classical station for some time.  But radio is an oligopoly with 
government licensing needed to play in the game, and it's run on 
the absurd premise that delivering desirable buyers to advertisers 
is radio's highest goal.   (Remember, in commercial radio, you are 
not the customer: you are the product being sold.)

WQRS listeners were well-educated and wealthy, but they aren't 
young enough.
 
The NPR station in Detroit, WDET, programs mostly jazz, folk and world 
music; the NPR station in Ann Arbor, WUOM, dumped its morning and afternoon
classical programming about a year ago.  So neither of them is likely 
to pick up the void in classical music programming.
 
This echoes changes in Philadelphia; I believe that Philadelphia's 
commercial classical station had the same owner as the Detroit station, 
and they just dumped classical music at the same time that the major 
NPR station in the area was dumping classical music.
omni
response 78 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 19:39 UTC 1997

 This is indeed a sad day in radio. Let us play Mozart's Requiem for the dead.

 'qrs had a spot saying they were going on 35 yrs of classical.

 I'm going to miss them.
teflon
response 79 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 01:38 UTC 1997

Gee, I dunno.  I kinda like the RRR (Really Repetitive Radio) stations.  I
mean, since they play the same stuff over and over (I listen to WIQB, mostly
for their little sound-clip thingys "Gee, I always thought this was a crack
house) it becomes a little bit like having a CD on random mode in your player.
And ocationally they play something that surprizes me, like once I tuned in
to "21st Century Schizoid Man" by King Crimson!  I bounced my head off the
roof!
mcnally
response 80 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 04:29 UTC 1997

  So basically your theory is that you'll appreciate the good stuff a 
  lot more if it's buried by hours and hours of repetetive dreck?  Hmm.
  You may be right for a career in modern radio programming (or would
  be if 96% of commercial radio programming wasn't done by a Zenith PC
  XT clone with a bad randomizer sitting in a closet in Dubuque, IA.)

  I'm appalled to find out that I was incorrect in my firm belief regarding
  the impossibility of the radio choices in the Detroit market getting worse.
  Sigh..
orinoco
response 81 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 03:54 UTC 1997

(I heard Crimson's "People" on the radio once...)
albaugh
response 82 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 18:51 UTC 1997

So when is WQRS going nonclassical?  I better listen while I can, because I
surely *won't* be listening *at all* when it goes rock...
krj
response 83 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 20:55 UTC 1997

The unconfirmed rumor is that the WQRS change will be near the end of 
November.
bruin
response 84 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 01:25 UTC 1997

Do you know what I'll miss most when WQRS changes format?  The Sousa march
at 7:15 am.  One of the cab drivers I had been riding with at that time
listened religiously to his morning dose of Sousa.
teflon
response 85 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 01:49 UTC 1997

re: 80
-Yeah, that's basically it.  Of course, I forgot to mention that happens to
be one of the (very) few channels that Ghoti will recieve clearly?
bmoran
response 86 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 14:49 UTC 1997

Sounds like, in the Detroit market, classical will become the "new
alternative". My, how times change, eh?
void
response 87 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 19:01 UTC 1997

   wqrs is changing formats?

   AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   <has a fit>

   damn. *damn.* (all other expletives deleted)

   it's the only -- and i mean *only* -- station i listen to in my cab,
where i spend almost 60 hours a week driving and listening to wqrs.
cabs don't have cd players or tape decks in them, either, and now all
that's going to be left for me to listen to is country or rap (neither
of which i can stand), bad rock, or whacked-out extremist talk show
hosts.

   i took some extra time off work this week, which must be why i've
missed any announcements about wqrs changing formats.

   damn.

   this is really upsetting. sorry for throwing a fit in the middle
of the music conference. and i thought quitting smoking was going to
be tough.

   so, is there anything those of us who would like to preserve
classical radio in the detroit area can do?
krj
response 88 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 19:34 UTC 1997

Void, in the Ann Arbor area, you should be able to get a marginal 
signal out of WKAR-FM in East Lansing, 90.5, which plays mostly 
classical music outside of the morning and evening NPR news blocks.
 
WUOM in Ann Arbor, 91.7, still broadcasts classical music after 
about 7 or 8 pm, and on through the evening until the morning NPR 
news show.  It's nationally syndicated programming now, rather than the 
local DJs, but it's still classical music at night.
 
You may also be able to get a marginal signal out of CBC Radio 2 from 
Windsor, 89.9, which is predominantly classical.
teflon
response 89 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 22:58 UTC 1997

Yeah, my dad just turned on wqrs this eavening.  he recieved an awfull
shock... Stone Temple Pilots.  My question is thus: are they switching to rock
only, or just some?
BTW: I just heard another cool song mixed in with the usual dreck on wiqb.
I think it's by the Proclamers, called "Ten Thousand Miles" or some such.
omni
response 90 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 07:09 UTC 1997

    Instead of crying in our beer, and all that, we should write letters to
the station, the owners, anyone who will listen to bring our WQRS back to
classical. Enough letters and they will listen. Stand UP and be counted.

  Who is with me?
teflon
response 91 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 16:29 UTC 1997

Arr! D'ye have an address for me (E-mail or Otherwise?)
scg
response 92 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:11 UTC 1997

I like WIQB and WPLT, both of which WQRS now seems to be trying to clone. 
I listen to them quite a bit.  I also listened to WQRS occasionally.  Why do
we need yet another station like the ones already there?
omni
response 93 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 21:49 UTC 1997

  Here is the address:

  WQRS
  28588 Northwestern Hwy Suite 200
  Southfield MI 48034
  (248) 355-1051

  Flood em with letters. Get that alternative shit off WQRS!
krj
response 94 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 00:45 UTC 1997

 <krj offers omni a lance to tilt at the windmills with.>
bruin
response 95 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 02:10 UTC 1997

I checked out the new format of "The Edge<at>105<dot>1" just a few 
minutes ago.  It appears that they are retaining the original WQRS call 
letters for the time being at least (a fairly normal practice when a 
radio station changes format and/or call letters).  Could not accurately 
identify what I was listening to, though, as there were apparently no 
disc jockeys speaking during the brief time I had the radio on this 
particular station.
omni
response 96 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 08:01 UTC 1997

 Heretic
tpryan
response 97 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 16:09 UTC 1997

        You could also address letters to stations that might pick 
up what was a profitable format (not just highly profitable).
        I don't know if that litejazz station could be/or would want
to be presuaded into doing more orchesteral things in the evening.
        That is, a station with a sucessfull daytime format, just
might be open to a compatable evening format when their current
evenings are in the dumper.
orinoco
response 98 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 17:39 UTC 1997

Re#89:  Yeah, I know that song.  It was on the radio a while back, and I think
it's on the Benny and Joon soundtrack.

Having never listened to WQRS much, I don't really care one way or another
about the change of format.  On the one hand, I do object to
genero-alternative stations, which seem to be taking over the world; if, on
the other hand, this new format turns out better than the mostly crappy
alternative radio we got around here before, I really can't complain.
omni
response 99 of 145: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 21:39 UTC 1997

  I still say if you write letter and/or start a petition drive, someone has
to take notice of that.
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