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juicy
response 75 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 00:32 UTC 2005

This is the menu layout in NS 7.0; FF should be similar but may not be
identical:

Preferences > Smart Browsing > Location Bar Autocomplete

If you don't want it to suggest anything, ever, uncheck the box; if you want
adjust the options, hit 'Advanced'.

If you're getting suggestions for information you're entering into forms
within pages, look for Privacy > Save Form Information and tell it not to;
you may also want to "Clear" saved information.  Note also that if you just
keep typing, as the options for completions narrow, the list'll get shorter.
You should also be able to use the arrow keys to select an option and either
tab or enter to select it and move on to the next box (or not).
rcurl
response 76 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 05:42 UTC 2005

(I though I had responded...but it's not here, so...) Thanks! I had not
thought that the form information preferences would be under Privacy. I
shouldn't have assumed anything when dealing with such applications.
twenex
response 77 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 10:38 UTC 2005

But I thought the Mac was supposed to be intuitive and easy-to-use...
gull
response 78 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 14:12 UTC 2005

The OS usually is.  Third-party apps aren't always.  Mozilla/Netscape,
like most open-source apps, isn't really known for a consistent and
well-thought-out user interface.  Menu options even sometimes move
around between minor releases.
rcurl
response 79 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 15:43 UTC 2005

Don't go overboard. The Mac OS X Help is pretty poor, not having explanations,
or even definitions, for many terms and procedures. 
twenex
response 80 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 17:42 UTC 2005

 The OS usually is.  Third-party apps aren't always.  Mozilla/Netscape,
 like most open-source apps, isn't really known for a consistent and
 well-thought-out user interface.  Menu options even sometimes move
 around between minor releases.

Don't throw that "like most open-source apps" around TOO much. M$ changed
plenty between Windows 95 and 98, and between 2000 and XP, both minor
upgrades.

As for "third party apps aren't always", i thought there were supposed to be
Human Interface Gidelines, too...
juicy
response 81 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 01:52 UTC 2005

sure there are, but when different programmers with different views on the
most usable or intuitive layout work successively (and often without much
communication) on a design, it'll change.  Eventually it'll stabilise, but
it may take a while.

And don't be too sensitive about finding meaning where there wasn't any. 
"like most open-source apps" doesn't exclude closed ones, it just means that
it's common among open ones.  it's probably just as common among closed apps
with similarly large communities of uncommunicative developers.
twenex
response 82 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 10:48 UTC 2005

True enough.
gull
response 83 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 20:20 UTC 2005

Also, remember that Mozilla was originally written for Windows, then
ported to the Mac.  That usually entails some compromises.  It's hard to
satisfy the UI guidelines of both operating systems, especially since
people tend to expect an app to work the same on different platforms.

Open-source apps are getting better at UIs, but they have a ways to go.
 GNOME certainly is better than it used to be.  GIMP has improved
considerably in the 2.x releases; it used to be a great example of what
*not* to do.
twenex
response 84 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 20:41 UTC 2005

 Open-source apps are getting better at UIs, but they have a ways to go.

I think closed-source apps are getting worse. Mac used to have one interface
paradigm (two if you include desk accessories, which even before multitasking
could coexist with the single application on screen). Now it has two (three
by the latter criterion.) Add another for apps written by Microsoft (which
I hear always diverge from the Mac HIG). And another for text-based apps (such
as Terminal, telnet programs, and non-IDE-based programming tools).

As for Windows, there's one interface for (Windows) Explorer and one for My
Computer. Add another for Media Player. And another for WinAMP...

Since its inception, DOS/Windows has had no fewer than 9 major or minor
interface changes, including:

The change from tabbed to overlapping Windows in version <3.1

The addition of DOS Shell in DOS 4

The change to Program and File Managers in 3.x

The change to My computer and Explorer in 9x/NT 3.51 and up.

The cosmetic (but imho awful) change in Windows XP;

The cosmetic (and slightly nicer) putative change in Longhorn.

The ditching of components in Longhorn.

The addition of an allegedly decent command line shell in Longhorn;

The constant (and progressively stupider) interface changes in Control Panel.

Oh, AND some time soon, the change to a database filesystem.

Of course, KDE and GNOME have undergone various changes, too. But it's no
worse than Windows. Finally, MS have compounded the error by allowing you to
change to something that looks vaguely like the old interface at each turn,
and then keeping those options around. MS software is anything but simple or
consistent, unless you have been brainwashed into thinking it is, which they
seem to have been able to do with most people with an alarming degree of
success.
rcurl
response 85 of 127: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 21:00 UTC 2005

Returning again to #59 inre the Cleaning function of OnyX.... the complete
error message I get whenever I run it is

------------------------------------------------------------------------

Error: 1

find: /private/_tmp_/printing.523/Preview of A video that never mentions 
Heifer Project International shows why their premise is wrong - An Aticles 
From The Heifer Project- A Bad Approach to Solving World Hunger Problems - 
An All Creatures Animal Issues Article Series- justi#14D6A.prvw: No such 
file or directory

find: /private/_tmp_/printing.523/Preview of A video that never mentions 
Heifer Project International shows why their premise is wrong - An Aticles 
From The Heifer Project- A Bad Approach to Solving World Hunger Problems - 
An All Creatures Animal Issues Article Series- justi#14D6B.pset: No such 
file or directory

find: /private/_tmp_/printing.523.1/ Preview of A video that never 
mentions Heifer Project International shows why their premise is wrong - 
An Aticles From The Heifer Project- A Bad Approach to Solving World Hunger 
Problems - An All Creatures Animal Issues Article Series- 
justi#14DF3.prvw: No such file or directory

find: /private/_tmp_/printing.523.1/ Preview of A video that never 
mentions Heifer Project International shows why their premise is wrong - 
An Aticles From The Heifer Project- A Bad Approach to Solving World Hunger 
Problems - An All Creatures Animal Issues Article Series- 
justi#14DF4.pset: No such file or directory

find: /private/_tmp_/printing.523.2/ Preview of A video that never 
mentions Heifer Project International shows why their premise is wrong - 
An Aticles From The Heifer Project- A Bad Approach to Solving World Hunger 
Problems - An All Creatures Animal Issues Article Series- OK

--------------------------------------------------------------------

It appears that "Cleaning" is trying to find some files that are
not there. But why does it think they are there? Or am I misinterpreting 
what the error message is trying to tell me? I certainly don't need/want
any files about "The Heifer Project".

I can find the directory /private/_tmp_/printing.523.1/ (etc), and it
contains all that gibberish, but why is this creating an error? 


arthurp
response 86 of 127: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 09:40 UTC 2005

Seems like the file name may have special characters in it that are not
being properly handled by the cleanup script.  If I have a file named

"-rf /"

and I can get some administrative task to pass that as a command line
input to the 'rm' command, we have something to look at.  If the admin
task correctly tokenizes my file name, then the 'rm' program will remove
it.  If the admin task fails to correctly pass it, then I may be able to
get the task to recursively '-r', forced '-f' remove files starting at
'/'.  A huge problem.  I leave it as an excercise for the reader how to
create a file named "-rf /".
rcurl
response 87 of 127: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 17:30 UTC 2005

I'm not even sure what of that is a file name. If I go to the last directory,
say printing.523, and list it, I get

[Rane-Curls-Computer:/private/_tmp_/printing.523] ranecurl% ls -al
ls: Preview of A video that never mentions Heifer Project International shows
why their premise is wrong - An Aticles From The Heifer Project- A Bad
Approach to Solving World Hunger Problems - An All Creatures Animal Issues
Article Series- justi#14D6A.prvw: No such file or directory
ls: Preview of A video that never mentions Heifer Project International shows
why their premise is wrong - An Aticles From The Heifer Project- A Bad
Approach to Solving World Hunger Problems - An All Creatures Animal Issues
Article Series- justi#14D6B.pset: No such file or directory
total 0
drwx------   4 ranecurl  wheel  136 30 Nov 12:18 .
drwxrwxrwt  11 root      wheel  374 22 Oct  2004 ..

So, what is all that gibberish starting with ls: Preview.... ? It certainly
isn't files in the directory. 

Do you think it would resolve the problem (with that directory) if I
emptied it? If so...how do I do that? It's not as those are files I can rm.
As far as I know, I don't even need those directories "printing.523.x".
arthurp
response 88 of 127: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 09:42 UTC 2005

If you go to _tmp_ and try to 'rm -rf printing.523' it probably says it
can't remove the dir because it's not empty?
Have you done an fsck on this?
From inside printing.523 does 'echo *' show anything?
rcurl
response 89 of 127: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 20:16 UTC 2005

Yup, it says it isn't empty. 
echo * inside printing.523 yields   tcsh: echo: No match.
I don't  know how to use fsck in this circumstance. 
Is there a way to empty a directory from outside it? 
gull
response 90 of 127: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 20:59 UTC 2005

rm -r directoryname 
 
If it complains you may also need the -f switch, which overrides some 
safeguards.  (The "f" stands for "force.") 
 
I'm a little suspicious that printing.523 isn't actually a directory, 
but rather a file that has become marked as a directory due to some 
kind of filesystem error.  In UNIX, directories are just a special type 
of file. 
rcurl
response 91 of 127: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 02:02 UTC 2005

I took this discussion to agora as there is a bigger crowd there. So I
have tried rm -rf <directory>. Didn't work. But if printing.523 *isn't*
meant to be a directory, how do I make it what it was meant to be (a file).
Here is an ls of the directory in which it is:

drwxrwxrwt  11 root      wheel  374 22 Oct  2004 .
drwxr-xr-x   6 root      wheel  204  7 Sep 23:54 ..
drwx------   3 ranecurl  wheel  102 21 Oct  2004 .KerberosLogin-501
drwx------   3 ranecurl  wheel  102 21 Oct  2004 501
-rw-r--r--   1 root      wheel  652 21 Oct  2004 mcx_compositor
drwxrwxrwx   3 root      wheel  102 21 Oct  2004 printers
drwx------   4 ranecurl  wheel  136  2 Dec 15:06 printing.523
drwx------   5 ranecurl  wheel  170 22 Oct  2004 printing.523.1
drwx------   5 ranecurl  wheel  170 22 Oct  2004 printing.523.2
srwxrw-rw-   1 root      wheel    0 21 Oct  2004 slp_ipc
drwxrwxrwt   7 root      wheel  238 22 Oct  2004 tmp

There appear to be five directories created recently (Oct 2004), but
I don't know how. Only the printing.523.x directories show up as error
when cleaning with OnyX. The one in question got modified in some fashion
while I've been fooling around with it so it has the recent date (but
I can't tell you what specific action did that). I  presume "root" are those
created on an installation (I may have upgraded to OS 10.3.9). 
gull
response 92 of 127: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 05:05 UTC 2005

I assume you've already run a disk check?  (I don't know what OS X calls
it...probably Disk First Aid.)
arthurp
response 93 of 127: Mark Unseen   Dec 16 07:59 UTC 2005

fsck won't want to run on a mounted file system.  I don't know how to
tell OS X that it should force an fsck on next reboot.  On my linux
there is /.autofsck to control this.  Also shutdown(8) has a switch to
force it.  I suspect man 8 shutdown should be your starting point.
rcurl
response 94 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 18:28 UTC 2006

Re #s85ff: I solved the problem, with help from 
http://forums.macosxhints.com/index.php. The problem was that the long 
garbage after the find: in #85 above isn't *in* the file, it is the *name* 
of the file, which choked OnyX. What I finally did was sudo'd the folder 
_tmp_ to my desktop, renamed the files with the long names, moved them to 
trash, and emptied trash. It did not work to empty trash without first 
renaming the files. I could then sudo _tmp_ back into its directory (for 
whatever good that is - everything seems to work find without it there).
rcurl
response 95 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 18:36 UTC 2006

New problem: is there any way to stop OSX from sorting files in a folder 
alphabetically? Usually I like files alphabetical, but this time I 
transferred the contents of two digital camera cards to the desktop, and 
wanted to append the files in one to the end of the list of files in the 
other. The file (image) names were, however, overlapping between the two 
cards, so when I copied and pasted, the files got mixed in, since the 
automatic file naming on the two cards significantly overlapped. In fact, 
I am not even sure the files on the one card appeared in the folder on the 
desktop in their original order. (I had taken the camera battery out to 
recharge it, which caused the file naming on the card and date to change, 
and I forgot to reset the date for a few images.)

SO... how do I transfer the files from the card to a folder on my desktop, 
and append files from two cards, keeping their original order? Or, in 
general, how can I create a folder so the files are in the order I place 
them there rather than being automatically alphabetized?
gull
response 96 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 12 21:38 UTC 2006

You can probably sort by date instead of by filename. I'm not sure how 
to do it in OS X, though.  It may be as easy as clicking the column 
heading.
rcurl
response 97 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 02:14 UTC 2006

Whaddayouknow! It works! Why isn't that in Mac Help? But this still doesn't
solve my problem totally. I would like the files in the same order as on the
card *regardless* of the name or date or whatever associated with each. For
example, for the images for which I had not reset the date, it was recorded
as the date the camera was made (or thereabouts). 
gull
response 98 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 17:47 UTC 2006

I don't think you're going to be able to preserve the file order when 
copying from once device to another.  Even on a single device it's not 
always consistent.  For example, on a DOS filesystem, if you delete a 
file in the middle of the directory, the next file you create may very 
well take that "slot" and end up in the middle.
rcurl
response 99 of 127: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 18:58 UTC 2006

Pretty crumby design.... One should have the option to set the default 
file sort for every folder or volume. However I am getting around the 
problem by downloading the camera card with the camera software: this 
renames all the files in an order corresponding to the order on the card - 
which is not automatically sorted by the camera. However downloaded the 
files from the two cards (to separate folders) both start with PIC00001. 
Now to try to append one onto the other....
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