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gull
response 75 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 18:55 UTC 2000

I'd just like to say I've been booted off four times in the last half hour. 
The interruptions have been too short to get a good trace on, though.  The
odd thing is they don't seem long enough to make me time out, but I get
booted anyway.
brighn
response 76 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 19:02 UTC 2000

I was gonig to rant about getting thrown six times in five minutes, and then
I remembered something: I don't contribute. I'm a layabout. This is free. I
get what I get. =}
gull
response 77 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 19:14 UTC 2000

Yeah, but Grex is paying for this so-called service.
mdw
response 78 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 19:31 UTC 2000

I did some traceroutes during network pauses last night, and it seemed
like the problem was with 209.153.129.86
(hssi1-0.rtr2.flnt.mi.voyager.net).  Oddly enough, as I wrote this, I
did one last traceroute, and there was another network pause as packets
looped at this very same host.  Perhaps it's crashing and restarting
multiple times per hour?
krj
response 79 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 19:39 UTC 2000

Right now other people in party are complaining about having their 
telnet sessions interrupted -- most visibly grexmom -- but my connection
through Michnet has been stable.  Perhaps people who are reporting 
telnet disconnects should mention what ISP they are using.

I was getting telnet disconnects a lot from tir.com several hours back.
mooncat
response 80 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 19:53 UTC 2000

I always use Backtalk during the day- and I've been getting a 'Socket 
Error' message frequently, but if I hit back and 'next item' it 
generally works... related?
scg
response 81 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 20:27 UTC 2000

I doubt it's the router where the traceroutes stop that's having the problem.
More likely something closer to us is either dropping the connection or having
some other problem that causes the route in Voyager's network to go away, thus
causing the traceroutes to die at Voyager's border.  If it were their border
router crashing it woudln't come back up quite that fast, probably would fail
over to some other path instead, and would certainly be noticed by somebody
over there.  As it is, if it's a problem affecting just Grex's circuit, and
nobody has called them to tell them about it, they're not likely to notice
and it will stay broken until somebody reports it.

So, once again, could some staff person in Ann Arbor, who is in a position
to deal with this if it turns out to need a telco dispatch or some such,
please call Voyager and report the problem.  Voyager will be able to diagnose
this far better than a bunch of people sitting on Grex and speculating from
traceroute data.
ashke
response 82 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 14:04 UTC 2000

well, I'm not dialing in.  I'm on a T3 at work (umich hosp) so it's not
something I can just call them up about.  I'm trying again today, but we'll
see.  This isn't the first time these problems have happened to me.  Just
yesterday was the first time I posted them.
scg
response 83 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 17:20 UTC 2000

The connection dropping problem has nothing to do with anybody's individual
connection.  It's a matter of Grex's DSL circuit having a problem.  Nobody
not on the Grex staff should do anything about this, but somebody on the Grex
staff should.
senna
response 84 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 17:24 UTC 2000

It was virtually unusable last night.  It took me four tries to check my
email.  I'm dialing in to dig through agora.
krj
response 85 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 17:41 UTC 2000

Telnet connections to Grex seem stable today, at least no one in 
party has been complaining about being cut off.
mwg
response 86 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 17:47 UTC 2000

Since a stable, trouble-free connection has never existed for me when
Grexing, I find that tucking a 'set autosave' in my .cfonce cuts down on
the problems of connecting back.  The only item I see twice without new
responses is the one I was reading when I lost my link.
I beleive that this increases the load, so people with stable connections
should probably not use it.
keesan
response 87 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 23:00 UTC 2000

I am always invited to login: again whenever I log out (dialin).  This gives
me a chance to change logins and read jdeigert's mail to him.
rcurl
response 88 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 01:35 UTC 2000

That's what I was writing about. But when I enter "exit" at that
login prompt, about half the time I'm logged out and the rest of the
time I get another login prompt. That's what I'm trying to learn
whether it is normal or a problem (somewhere).
aruba
response 89 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 02:09 UTC 2000

You can avoid getting the second login prompt entirely by putting a
/------------\
| stty hupcl |
\------------/
line in your .login file.
mcnally
response 90 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 03:10 UTC 2000

  Be sure to keep the "/-----------\" and "\---------/" lines --
  they're the most important part..  ;-p
rcurl
response 91 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 03:10 UTC 2000

What's that do (behind the scenes)? I'd still like the first login
prompt that follows logging out. 
mcnally
response 92 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 05:41 UTC 2000

  (I was being facetious about the /-----\ stuff, of course..
   the "stty hupcl" sets the HangUP behavior for the pty..)
aruba
response 93 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 11 21:40 UTC 2000

Right, it causes Grex to break th connection to your computer as soon as you
log out.  I guess that's not what you want.
keesan
response 94 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 14:57 UTC 2000

I type Ctl-D and always get logged out.
drew
response 95 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 19:53 UTC 2000

The net connection isn't working.
mcnally
response 96 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 21:20 UTC 2000

  It's back, at least for the moment..
scott
response 97 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 22:30 UTC 2000

I rebooted the DSL router, although I'm not sure if that did it since I was
on my way somewhere and couldn't watch the link status.
richard
response 98 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 02:18 UTC 2000

my bookmarks simply dont work...stopped working a couple of weeks ago
would this be a problem with my participation file?  I cant even
forget items, because it never remembers to forget them...
drew
response 99 of 188: Mark Unseen   Oct 16 14:12 UTC 2000

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