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albaugh
response 75 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 15:03 UTC 1997

How's this for a nit?

> if you prefer a text-based interface, you can Telnet to Grex, log in,
> and run the BBS command. 
             /^^^\
Currently, there is no "BBS" command (all upper case) you can run from 
the Unix prompt.  So the grex-powers-that-be could either create an 
alias/link from BBS to bbs, or this section of Backtalk could be edited, 
or this nit could simply be ignored!  :-)
albaugh
response 76 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 15:07 UTC 1997

(Sorry about the formatting of #75 - I didn't realize that Backtalk 
wouldn't respect what I thought were my hard returns the way that 
picospan does... :-(
remmers
response 77 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 16:21 UTC 1997

(Hmm... Your #75 looks fine to me, but I'm reading it in
Picospan, not Backtalk.)
davel
response 78 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 01:02 UTC 1997

What John just said.
valerie
response 79 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 06:35 UTC 1997

This response has been erased.

albaugh
response 80 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 15:50 UTC 1997

Well, that begs the question of whether Backtalk could/should put <br>'s 
into the HTML it generates for users' hard returns?  I know it would 
"waste" right-side-of-the-screen real estate, and make for longer pages 
(vertically), but the formatting would be retained...
senna
response 81 of 211: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 22:27 UTC 1997

that went over my head.
dang
response 82 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 02:21 UTC 1997

A <br> tag in html adds a hard return (A line break) at that spot in the text.
In general, html ignores how the text is formatted, so if you have a return
in a line, html concatinates the two lines together.  

Another suggestion:  use the <pre> tag instead?

(Note:  the <pre> tag stands for "Preformat" and means output the text exactly
as it is stored in the file, complete with linefeeds and thigns like that.)
mary
response 83 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 04:07 UTC 1997

I miss meg.
remmers
response 84 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 10:09 UTC 1997

Ditto.

Re #82: I believe backtalk does use the <PRE> tag to display
responses.
janc
response 85 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 13:03 UTC 1997

I thought it did too.  Something may have gotten messed up in the last
upgrade.
valerie
response 86 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 13:11 UTC 1997

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scott
response 87 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 14:01 UTC 1997

IWLTA that Grex now has 11 working dialin lines!  With a little more
configuration we will be up to 12, and then when Ameriwreck fixes our dead
line we will be up to the long awaited 13 lines.

We will also be replacing the old Supra modems with new, error correcting
modems (still 2400 baud, though.  :(  ).
janc
response 88 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 15:40 UTC 1997

Great news, Scott.

I've repaired the bug I recently introduced into backtalk that caused
it to misplace the <PRE> </PRE> tags around displayed responses.  They
should be correctly formatted.

I haven't fixed the internet explorer bug that causes it to generate
unwrapped responses through backtalk.
remmers
response 89 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 17:41 UTC 1997

Just write Microsoft. They'll be happy to send you the source
code.

janc
response 90 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 1 21:19 UTC 1997

Recently Grex members voted to allow Grex's conferences to be read over the
web by users who do not identify themselves by giving a Grex login.  These
unregistered readers will have read-only access to the conferences.  They
won't be able to post, and Grex won't be able to remember for them which
responses they have already seen, so everything will appear to be new each
time they visit.

In accordance with this vote, I have taken the first step toward enabling
unregistered reading.  It is now possible to read without registering, but
I have not yet put links into Grex's other web pages tell people that it is
possible.  So at this point it works, but is not being advertized.  I'll start
adding links in this weekend.

Out of consideration of the strong minority of users who did not want their
conference text read by unregistered users, I have added the "shy" command.
If you do "!shy y" you will be added to the list of users whose responses will
*not* be displayed to unregistered users.  All your responses in all
conferences will be replaced by the message

  text hidden from unregistered users by author's request.

So if it is important to you that people take out a Grex login before they
can see what you say, do the "shy y" thing.  If you have friends that you
think would care about this, tell them.  If there are people who no longer
log into Grex, but have responses in the conferences who you think would care
about this, send me mail.

In the future I plan to set up fairly simple ways that you can put a link
to a Grex conference, item, or response into your web page.  (Probably a small
advertisement for Grex will appear on such pages, encouraging users to join
Grex to read more).
senna
response 91 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 2 03:44 UTC 1997

hmm, that's convenient.  but wo8uldn't people be able to gain limited
knowledge fro m the reaction other people have to those hidden responses?
creole
response 92 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 2 10:56 UTC 1997

Senna, I am really shocked that you would say that! Obscene racial and
sexual slurs have no place on a polite system like grex. You had better
post a retraction!
remmers
response 93 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 2 11:55 UTC 1997

Heh.
scott
response 94 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 2 16:03 UTC 1997

(I'm going to guess that an obscene tel came in on creole's screen just as
senna's response was appearing)
senna
response 95 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 3 00:38 UTC 1997

I'm hoping... retracting a request like that really doesn't seem necessary.
perhaps creole should reread the response...
polygon
response 96 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 3 00:58 UTC 1997

Are you shy, Stephen?
scg
response 97 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 3 04:07 UTC 1997

Uh, look at 92 in the context of 91.
krj
response 98 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 3 06:33 UTC 1997

Actually, I'd been meaning to point that issue out for a while, but I 
have mostly withdrawn from the unregistered reading discussions.
The "shy" option addresses the concern of Jenna and the poets, 
who (I believe) are more interested in protecting the exact text of 
their words, but it is a bit less effective of a fig leaf for those 
who wanted to feel that grex was more of a small community, such 
as selena, where personal discussions could be held.
scott
response 99 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 3 12:25 UTC 1997

Ah!  now I get it.  A rather nasty thing to do.
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