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scg
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response 75 of 205:
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Oct 31 04:31 UTC 1996 |
We actually ended up shoutting the public out shortly after 7 this evening,
since the system was being so bombarded by incoming mail. Hopefully we'll
be back open later tonight.
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scg
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response 76 of 205:
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Oct 31 06:54 UTC 1996 |
Interesting typo... I should have said that we shut the public out, not
shoted them out.
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headdoc
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response 77 of 205:
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Oct 31 13:35 UTC 1996 |
I am giving thought to designing a program to deal with Grex withdrawal
symtoms, folks. I, myself, was starting to get agitated, irritated,
hypervigilent, paranoid,and more as the days without Grex stretched into what
seemed like months. I'd better have something set up before the next
protracted crash (this is humor, my friends.)
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ajax
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response 78 of 205:
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Oct 31 14:03 UTC 1996 |
I'd suggest calling M-Net to reduce withdrawal symptoms, but they
were down for much of the time Grex was down, too!
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cmcgee
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response 79 of 205:
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Oct 31 15:17 UTC 1996 |
Is there some reason we phone-in users couldn't get to Grex Wednesday night?
I tried as late as 1 am Thurs morning and still couldn't get a modem to
answer.
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steve
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response 80 of 205:
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Oct 31 15:47 UTC 1996 |
Yes, there is--we shut the dialins off, becuase we were getting
so much mail that Grex was kind of going crazy and we wanted to devote
every drop of CPU to processing mail.
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blh
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response 81 of 205:
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Oct 31 15:53 UTC 1996 |
I prefer shoted to shut, more "demographic" somehow.
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nsiddall
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response 82 of 205:
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Oct 31 17:36 UTC 1996 |
Shooed them out; shunted them out...shot them?
Hey--poor old Grex was down longer than commerical system might be, but
you all handle these things with such grace and style that I almost don't
mind waiting. More kudos to the staff from this corner. And my check is
in the mail.
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popcorn
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response 83 of 205:
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Oct 31 21:16 UTC 1996 |
Grex crashed again this afternoon. I'm not sure why. It was in sort of
"catatonic state" -- not responding to anything except pings. I rebooted it.
We're up again for now, but I am concerned that we've been seeing this kind
of crash lately more often than I'd like.
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albaugh
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response 84 of 205:
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Nov 1 19:03 UTC 1996 |
Any post-mortem on the crashed disk drive? Was it near end-of-life? Was it
just a lemon? Is this going to happen pretty regularly?
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scg
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response 85 of 205:
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Nov 1 19:16 UTC 1996 |
There are a couple of things that may have contributed. One is move related,
in that the drive had just been turned off for a full day, after running
pretty constantly since the last time Grex moved almost two years ago. Since
the drive probably cooled considerably after we turned it off, it's likely
that it contracted a bit, which could have stressed it. Also, if anything
in there had melted, it would have stayed melted, and therefore able to move,
until the drive cooled down, at which point it would solidify.
The other factor, probably much more significant, is that the fans in the SCSI
enclosure it was in died, meaning that it wasn't getting any air circulation
around it. That probably caused it to overheat.
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kerouac
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response 86 of 205:
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Nov 1 21:47 UTC 1996 |
Query: I happened to call up the web front page, which I rarely do, and
saw that it had a link to ICNET. Is this part of the deal to get a cut
rate on ICNET service?
I didnt know it was Grex policy to give free advertising on its web page
to commercial organizations that arent paying for it. The placement of
this link implies that the membership endorses ICNET in some official
way. I think it should be removed, unless as I asked above, this is
part of some package deal that grex couldnt get without offering the
link.
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janc
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response 87 of 205:
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Nov 1 22:59 UTC 1996 |
ICNET has been giving us a cut rate on our internet service for several years
now. You'll have seen a similar message printed everytime you log into Grex.
Putting the message there is part of our deal with ICNET, I think.
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ajax
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response 88 of 205:
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Nov 2 00:44 UTC 1996 |
IC-Net gives Grex a generous special rate, and I think the understanding
was that they'd get a login plug. There was no requirement for a web plug,
since Grex didn't have a web page at the time, but I added the IC-Net plug
a while back, with the webadmins' approval, by the same principle by which
we have the login mention. It just seems the right thing to do. Both when
logging in, and on the web page, it says that our Internet access is
provided by IC-Net.
If Richard (or anyone) still feels it shouldn't be there, I think it's
certainly reasonable to get board approval for the link, since it is
essentially an advertisement, and it didn't go through any public
approval process. I highly doubt there would be any widespread objection
to it, but it doesn't hurt to ask and make sure.
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tsty
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response 89 of 205:
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Nov 2 12:11 UTC 1996 |
yes, kerouac, that notation *is* a 'plug' in reciprocation for an excellent
arrangement for the benefit of all users. i wholeheartedly support
putting 'plugs' here and there as warranted. and on the grex web
page (as well as the motd) is just right.
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scg
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response 90 of 205:
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Nov 2 18:55 UTC 1996 |
Grex crashed about 11 times yesterday. Robh and steve each rebooted it once,
Valerie and Jan each rebooted it twice, and I rebooted it four times.
Finally, the eleventh time, Marcus replaced the CPU card. It seems to be
working much better now.
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kerouac
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response 91 of 205:
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Nov 2 21:20 UTC 1996 |
11 times? That must be a record for a 24 hour period.
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n8nxf
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response 92 of 205:
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Nov 3 02:10 UTC 1996 |
(I was wondering what was going on. :)
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rcurl
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response 93 of 205:
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Nov 3 05:07 UTC 1996 |
ICNet is making a donation to Grex, and Grex is acknowledging it, just as
WUOM recognizes support from Herb Guitar Studio, etc. It would be better,
though, if the "plug" were more specific, recognizing the support directly
Without that it raises the questions...it's raising.
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tsty
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response 94 of 205:
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Nov 3 07:48 UTC 1996 |
that first sentence of yours sounds reasonable, just add the phn #.
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drew
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response 95 of 205:
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Nov 3 20:17 UTC 1996 |
The motd says that my home path was to change to /home/d/r/drew. Originally
/home/drew, it is currently /a/home/drew. Shall it be this way, or should I
stand by to edit the .forward and mail handler files again? (I do not trust
$HOME and ~, since I had less than sterling results with them when running
the first tests, both here and on m-net.)
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popcorn
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response 96 of 205:
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Nov 3 21:07 UTC 1996 |
Your home path hasn't been changed yet. It will almost certainly change to
/home/d/r/drew at some point in the future. But the change hasn't occurred
yet. The motd note is advance warning. The /a at the beginning of /home/drew
is optional; you can type "cd /home/drew" or "cd /a/home/drew" and end up in
exactly the same place either way.
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chelsea
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response 97 of 205:
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Nov 3 22:19 UTC 1996 |
When an impending change like that needs to announced should
it also be put into the system announcements item? Or is
the MOTD more of a conference now, where only a few are
able to post, and no one can respond?
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popcorn
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response 98 of 205:
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Nov 3 23:41 UTC 1996 |
Given a choice, I'd rather put it into the system announcements item. But
considering that only a tiny fraction of Grex's users read any conferences,
and considering that the change is going to have a big effect on a lot of
people whether or not they read they conferences, I feel it's important to
put the announcement where it will be seen by the most people.
(Have you read the part of the book _The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_
where Arthur Dent opens his eyes one morning as a bunch of bulldozers
unexpectedly arrive at his front door, ready to bulldoze his house?
They tell Arthur that the plans were available in a locked file cabinet,
guarded by a tiger, in the basement of some municipal building downtown,
where he could have looked at them anytime in the last several months, and
he's a bad citizen for not having looked. Well, the System Announcements
item doesn't have a tiger, but for a lot of Grex's users it's somewhat
analogous to a basement filing cabinet. I'd rather err on the side of
making overly sure that Grex's users are informed ahead of time that a
lot of their scripts and programs are going to break, rather than showing
up with a bulldozer on their doorstep one morning. Even despite the big
ugly motd note about it, when the changeover finally occurs, it's going to
startle a lot of people anyway.)
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chelsea
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response 99 of 205:
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Nov 4 01:04 UTC 1996 |
You're right. It belongs there.
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