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Grex > Coop13 > #101: Cyberspace Communications finances for January 2004 | |
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jmsaul
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response 75 of 155:
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Feb 13 01:17 UTC 2004 |
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jp2
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response 76 of 155:
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Feb 13 02:09 UTC 2004 |
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rational
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response 77 of 155:
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Feb 13 02:12 UTC 2004 |
:)
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jmsaul
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response 78 of 155:
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Feb 13 02:28 UTC 2004 |
(Fixed dumb typo)
In all of the verbiage and nastiness on both sides, Lynne's said one of the
most valuable things I've ever read about BBSing:
I have learned how to deal with unhealthy
types of social interaction. It's a skill. And one I happen to like
because it allows me to take more social risks than I might otherwise.
You have four choices:
1. Leave
2. Close the BBS to "undesirables"
3. React to undesirable behavior with stress and hostility
4. Learn to deal with unhealthy types of social interaction in a healthy
manner
When I've said in the past that it's best to ignore system twits, I'm not
saying that you should learn to like them. They're going to be a part of
Grex unless you shut the doors. It's unavoidable -- you may manage to
teach or bully or scold some into changing their behavior, but there will
always be more. It's up to you whether you continue to allow their
presence to stress you out, or learn to handle them in a healthier way.
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slynne
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response 79 of 155:
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Feb 13 03:56 UTC 2004 |
Wow. Thanks Joe. I agree with everything you have said in resp:78
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happyboy
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response 80 of 155:
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Feb 13 07:33 UTC 2004 |
this discussion has gone on longer than is comfortable for me.
i hope i don't get a tummyache because of it.
:(
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cmcgee
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response 81 of 155:
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Feb 13 12:50 UTC 2004 |
Go Joe! Go Lynne! Thanks for articulating why I'm staying. I too wish I
could "kick out" the people I perceive as "ruining" Grex. But I value Grex
more than I dislike them. And I want other people to realize that there are
quite a few of us who want to be in a community where healthy interactions
are the -norm-.
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iggy
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response 82 of 155:
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Feb 13 14:29 UTC 2004 |
huh.. i didn't get the same thing out of slynne and jmsaul that
cmcgee appeared to. i thought they were saying it is much healthier
to learn to deal with people rather than to kick everyone out so you can
have a private sanctuary.
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jp2
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response 83 of 155:
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Feb 13 14:41 UTC 2004 |
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remmers
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response 84 of 155:
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Feb 13 16:51 UTC 2004 |
I didn't read cmcgee's "I too" as referring to slynne and jmsaul.
And *I too* applaud what they said. :)
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tod
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response 85 of 155:
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Feb 13 17:51 UTC 2004 |
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keesan
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response 86 of 155:
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Feb 13 18:04 UTC 2004 |
I have not kicked people out. I use tools to avoid having to deal with the
messes they make, such as the ignore command, or fixseen when someone posts
all over agora or scribbles all over agora. If everyone did this the vandals
might get bored and go away.
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jp2
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response 87 of 155:
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Feb 13 18:09 UTC 2004 |
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albaugh
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response 88 of 155:
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Feb 13 18:28 UTC 2004 |
All that is fine, but it isn't about changing *grex* in any way - it's about
people essentially developing thicker skins or the ilk. And that isn't
something "grex" can do, other than perhaps posting a "warning" during
newuser or other places. So, while people leaving grex because they were
stressed out over the item killing kaper may be unfortunate, unless grex is
to become a private members-only club where no mean / nasty people would ever
show up, those as bailed, well "sorry to see you go, but..."
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tod
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response 89 of 155:
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Feb 13 19:25 UTC 2004 |
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anderyn
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response 90 of 155:
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Feb 13 19:39 UTC 2004 |
I think that a warning about this being the internet, etc. might be
appropriate. Seriously.
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scott
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response 91 of 155:
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Feb 13 19:40 UTC 2004 |
*I* can develop a thicker skin. What about the jerks who are also driving
away new users, by entering abusive responses in party or Agora item 1?
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iggy
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response 92 of 155:
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Feb 13 19:53 UTC 2004 |
i highly doubt new users are helpless, defenseless little bunnies that need
someone charging in on a white horse and chainmail to protect them.
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happyboy
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response 93 of 155:
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Feb 13 19:57 UTC 2004 |
re91: i'll assume that you consider me to be one of *the jerks*
who are the newusers who i have driven away? i want names
scott. in fact i want names of any folks who have been
driven away by *the jerks*
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keesan
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response 94 of 155:
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Feb 13 20:46 UTC 2004 |
That is not the point. If I were a potential user of grex, and the first and
probably only thing I saw here was name-calling, I would go away.
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scott
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response 95 of 155:
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Feb 13 21:11 UTC 2004 |
Re 93: Easy enough. I'm not calling you one of the
jerks-who-are-trying-to-drive-people-away. I'm referring more to polytarp.
Although I'll certainly give you an honorary "jerk" for your pointless demand
for essentially uncollectable data. ;)
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albaugh
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response 96 of 155:
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Feb 13 21:34 UTC 2004 |
I don't see any way that grex can remain "grex" and at the same time preclude
jerky users.
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tod
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response 97 of 155:
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Feb 13 21:57 UTC 2004 |
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krj
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response 98 of 155:
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Feb 13 22:00 UTC 2004 |
"Grex: Where The Weak Are Killed and Eaten."
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cyklone
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response 99 of 155:
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Feb 13 22:13 UTC 2004 |
"Grex: Doing Personal Favors For Favored Persons"
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