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Grex > Coop10 > #37: Proposal: the Grex Bumper Sticker | |
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krj
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response 75 of 165:
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Oct 7 14:17 UTC 1997 |
I kind of like the swoosh, certainly more than putting ".ORG" in caps.
Looks like I need to call the bumper sticker makers to get our size
specifications.
Thanks, Steve!
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valerie
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response 76 of 165:
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Oct 7 14:43 UTC 1997 |
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krj
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response 77 of 165:
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Oct 7 15:00 UTC 1997 |
(Steve, it looks like you may have taken the logo from a color source
instead of the B&W source; in the B&W copy I have, the pillars of the
building are all the same tone. ??? I should mention that I am
viewing on an old B&W Sun monitor.)
Could the swoosh have a bit more of an "arch" to it?
(Maybe we can pretend we are a part of the UMich Athletic Department
and get some funding from Nike!! :) :) )
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valerie
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response 78 of 165:
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Oct 7 15:49 UTC 1997 |
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krj
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response 79 of 165:
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Oct 7 16:09 UTC 1997 |
In coop8, item #143, Rob Argy had the gifs in ~ajax/dir-gifs.
I think grxlogo1.gif is the black & white one. That directory appears
to be no longer permitted; you might ask Rob about that, or else I
can upload the copy I have from last year.
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mta
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response 80 of 165:
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Oct 7 22:59 UTC 1997 |
That's marvelous, Steve! I kind of like the swoosh -- though I agree
that it could look unintentional. Maybe it would look a bit more
intentional if it were stronger or more arched, or, as Ken requested,
more arched.
Anyway, that's GREAT!
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orinoco
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response 81 of 165:
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Oct 8 00:24 UTC 1997 |
(Or perhaps even more arched?)
Sounds very neat. Being automotively disinclined myself, I'll have to content
myself with trying to sell them to my more fortunate friends.
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valerie
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response 82 of 165:
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Oct 8 02:31 UTC 1997 |
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srw
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response 83 of 165:
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Oct 8 03:34 UTC 1997 |
Thanks for all your support on this, everyone.
Valerie, YEAH I WOULD LIKE A COPY of the high-res version. thanks.
I did get this logo from a color version. I wasn't aware that Rob had
done a separate monochrome version. It might look better, so although I
am fairly happy with this one's different grays. I'd like to see a
monochrome one.
I agree that the swoosh I did was less than artistic. I did it too
quickly. There seems to be support for the idea, so I did it again, with
a larger brush and more arching as you have suggested. It is definitely
better, but there is still the question of whether it is better off
without it. You folks decide.
http://www.wwnet.net/~srw/bumpersticker2.gif
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janc
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response 84 of 165:
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Oct 8 04:24 UTC 1997 |
I like it too, but I'm concerned that the font is going to be a bit small to
be easily readable by non-tailgaters. One thing that might make it a bit
easier to read is to put a bit more space around the dots. As usual, this
is hard to show in ascii, since I'm talking about fractional spaces, not full
spaces, but I'm looking for something about halfway between:
www.cyberspace.org
and
www . cyberspace . org
I think having a bit more space between the components may make it eaiser to
recognize the three familiar words that make it up.
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srw
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response 85 of 165:
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Oct 8 06:18 UTC 1997 |
I can easily change the spacing as you suggest. I just did that, and did
some manual kerning, too. It is now at
http://www.wwnet.net/~srw/bumpersticker3.gif
What do you think?
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polygon
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response 86 of 165:
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Oct 8 14:24 UTC 1997 |
My own preference is still for the basic, cryptic, www.cyberspace.org with
no logo, no swoosh, no other text.
I do agree with Ken, though, that more space around the dots looks better.
I don't agree that it's necessary to stress the .org, and I really don't
like the idea of capitalizing it. If you gotta have a swoosh, yes arch
it. And wouldn't it be possible to do a swoosh that looks like a
brushstroke, with jagged but definite edges, rather than one that looks
like spray paint? Something along the lines of Japanese calligraphy.
My first choice is no-swoosh, second choice would be a brushstroke swoosh.
The spray painted swoosh just looks bad.
I don't mean to deinigrate srw's fine work on the graphics here, though.
Thanks for turning these ideas into reality that we can argue about!
Another note: the price per sticker falls rapidly with increased quantity.
A thousand stickers would cost much less than twice $175. Also, once
they've printed up one order of stickers, additional orders of identical
stickers involve less set-up and hence are cheaper (though not as cheap as
getting the additional stickers with the original order).
I have been in politics for 27 years, and I have yet to hear anyone
complain about Sawicki for price or service or quality. Don't let them
design something for you, though.
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polygon
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response 87 of 165:
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Oct 8 14:25 UTC 1997 |
Er, sorry, that was Jan who suggested more space around the dots.
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jep
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response 88 of 165:
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Oct 8 15:32 UTC 1997 |
I like the spacing around the dots in bumpersticker3.gif.
I like the Grex logo, except that I'm afraid it'll be too small compared
to the rest of the bumper sticker.
Larry hit it on the head, that the swoosh looks like spraypaint. I can't
visualize one that would look better, but designing things is a distinct
weakness of mine.
Great job!
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valerie
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response 89 of 165:
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Oct 8 17:53 UTC 1997 |
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mta
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response 90 of 165:
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Oct 8 18:35 UTC 1997 |
I agree with Larry that a more "brushstroke" looking swoosh might be
better, and the extra space Jan suggested really does improve
readability. (I never would have thought of that!)
I prefer the shades of grey of the current logo, fwiw.
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valerie
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response 91 of 165:
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Oct 8 19:02 UTC 1997 |
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krj
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response 92 of 165:
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Oct 8 22:34 UTC 1997 |
Here's a task for one or more people to do: download Steve's
current design, cut it out, and rubber-cement it lightly to a
car bumper. Let us know how the prototype looks from a bit of a
distance.
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orinoco
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response 93 of 165:
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Oct 9 16:42 UTC 1997 |
Returning to an earlier discussion, what abou the idea of a rock-painting
expedition? I'd be glad to help out with that sort of thing...
(Oh, and my pet turtle is small enough to be non-existant, but I'll plaster
everything else with it)
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scott
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response 94 of 165:
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Oct 9 21:16 UTC 1997 |
I've got a few cans of strangely colored paint from the previous owner of my
house...
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orinoco
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response 95 of 165:
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Oct 10 23:09 UTC 1997 |
I can contribute some red spray paint that resides in our basement, and
possibly a few cans of boring house paint.
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srw
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response 96 of 165:
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Oct 12 04:48 UTC 1997 |
Thanks for the logo URL valerie. I haven't downloaded it yet.
Larry, I appreciate your comments on the swoosh. I agree that a brushstroke
would look better, but I don't have one handy. I am not convinced that we need
anything to emphasize the org either. I figured it was worth a try to get
reactions. The spray paint was easy to do. Reactions are decidedly mixed.
I'm inclined to drop the swoosh altogether unless someone can supply a
brushstroke, in which case I am willing to post a 4th attempt.
Even though it is a bit small, I am strongly inclined to keep the logo.
It's a distinctive graphic element. A "service mark" (albeit unregistered).
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krj
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response 97 of 165:
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Oct 12 18:58 UTC 1997 |
I also think the logo serves an emotional purpose for the
owner/displayer, which is what brought me around to wanting to
include it on the sticker.
But I suspect that the logo on the sticker should be derived from
a copy which does not have the 3-D shadow effects on the "town
hall" elements, and on the GREX letters. Those shadow effects
seem to get really funky when the logo is scaled down, and when the
image is converted to B&W -- which is essential for low-cost printing
-- the shadow effects just become fuzz and grunge.
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krj
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response 98 of 165:
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Oct 13 21:03 UTC 1997 |
I uploaded a copy of the B&W logo which I have to: ~krj/logo/grxlogo1.gif
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valerie
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response 99 of 165:
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Oct 14 16:18 UTC 1997 |
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