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keesan
response 75 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 02:05 UTC 2002

Withdrawal of apology accepted.
People of European origin seem to tolerate overeating better than Native
Americans, who are particularly prone to diabetes when they start eating fried
white bread and sugar instead of tortillas and beans.  People used to die of
diabetes instead of taking insulin, possibly before age 50.
jaklumen
response 76 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 3 09:54 UTC 2002

I have heard about that-- I used to read Diabetes Forecast all the time 
since one of my sisters is insulin-dependent diabetic.  It was made 
mention in an article.
keesan
response 77 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 3 14:22 UTC 2002

Your chances of getting diabetes go up with your weight, no matter what you
ate to gain the weight.  Since there is probably also a genetic tendency, it
would be advisable for overweight people with diabetic close relatives to
watch their weight.  Omni of grex was warned of incipient diabetes and
promptly started losing 5 pounds a month and the diabetes is gone (along with
a lot of weight - he cut out drinking soda pop).
jaklumen
response 78 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 11:13 UTC 2002

btw, that's type II diabetic, there.  It won't effect your chances of 
developing type I diabetes-- that's purely genetic.
keesan
response 79 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 4 15:32 UTC 2002

From what I have read, Type I is often caused by an infection - is that what
your sister has?  The body develops resistance against its own pancreas while
fighting the infection (autoimmunity).  Type II develops with age, Type I can
strike any age.
jaklumen
response 80 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 07:45 UTC 2002

Yes, and infection?  No, I don't think so, not from what I've read.  If 
it was a mere infection, it would be cured by now.  Indeed, antibodies 
begin attacking the beta cells (beta cells produce insulin-- if they 
attacked the alpha cells that produce anti-insulin, hypoglycemia would 
be a result) to the point that the pancreas can no longer produce 
insulin.  Indeed, it can develop at any age, but it is more common to 
develop in childhood, hence the nickname juvenile-onset diabetes for 
type I.

Type II is when the body cells begin developing a resistance to insulin 
itself.  The pancreas many times produces more than enough insulin.  
Treatment may include medications that force the cells to accept the 
insulin, but weight management is indeed the main key.  My father-in-
law developed type II and managed to lose the required weight.  He 
still has a little middle age spread, but Julie tells me he is much 
thinner than he once was.

Gestational diabetes is different still, of course, and occurs during 
pregnancy.  If a woman is overweight, she is at risk, and Julie was 
with Sarah.  
keesan
response 81 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 22:40 UTC 2002

Type I is thought to be caused when some virus or bacteria causes the body
to produce antibodies which attack not only the infective agent but also the
pancreatic cells.  Kids are more likely to get infections and less likely to
get type II diabetes.  Gestational diabetes occurs when the fetus and the
mother are at odds as to how the mother's body acts - the fetus wants blood
sugar levels to go up to what is unhealthy for the mother.
mta
response 82 of 82: Mark Unseen   Jul 14 20:23 UTC 2002

Actually, you're behind the times with diabetes research.

For years doctors noted the tendency for people to gain weight for several
years before being diagnosed with diabetes.  Because the symptom was that
immoral change of shape, they assumed that the weight gain caused the diabetes.
 

More recent, more impartial research, however, has shown that early stage
diabetes causes weight gain, because the cells are't able to get the glucose
from the blood, so it's stored as fat.

I'm glad that Jim's diabetes is currently controlled, but rest assured: it's
not gone.  Type II diabetes is a genetically based degenerative disease.  It
can be controlled through reducing the stress on the pancreas, but that control
is temporary.  Eventually, depending on how far gone his pancreas was when he
was diagnosed and how successful he is at controlling the glucose levels in his
blood, thus protecting his pancreas from strain, if he lives long enough
medicines will be required to control the glucose levels in his blood.  Period.
 

Weight loss was not the cause of the better control of his diabetes, it was a
symptom of the steps he took to control the diabetes.
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