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Grex > Coop11 > #127: Cyberspace Communications finances for September, 1999 |  |
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drewmike
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response 75 of 90:
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Oct 14 22:43 UTC 1999 |
(Hey, Bass-ay, I think I know a guy who's got some paperwork started on a
topic like that.)
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other
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response 76 of 90:
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Oct 15 02:52 UTC 1999 |
yeah, i think i do too. i am not volunteering...
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cmcgee
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response 77 of 90:
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Oct 15 12:13 UTC 1999 |
Let's not develop a policy. Let's not solicit corporate sponsorships. Let's
leave the acknowledgements in the treasurer's postings.
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lilmo
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response 78 of 90:
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Oct 15 22:47 UTC 1999 |
Er, that would also be a policy...
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janc
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response 79 of 90:
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Oct 17 18:18 UTC 1999 |
Our 501(c)3 doesn't prevent us from selling advertising on Grex, not as
long as those ads are not political in nature. However, I am strongly
opposed to selling ads here. If someone with a lot of money wants an
ad, let them enter it in the classified conference with everybody else.
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lilmo
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response 80 of 90:
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Oct 19 02:18 UTC 1999 |
Sounds good to me.
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keesan
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response 81 of 90:
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Nov 13 02:16 UTC 1999 |
What about selling day sponsorships of grex, like the public radio stations
do, in exchange for which the sponsor could post a two-line notice in the motd
wishing someone a happy occasion? Kiwanis accepts 'happy dollars' - you pay
your dollar at lunch and tell people how happy you are that your grandchild
got all A's, or your favorite sports team won. (Of course people can already
do all this for free in the conferences, but the motd also reaches thousands
of Indian users who you might also want to impress).
What does it cost to run grex for one day - phone lines, rent,
utilities, insurance? I'd guess $10-15.
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don
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response 82 of 90:
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Nov 13 03:34 UTC 1999 |
That sounds like a good idea. In fact, it's sorta similar to the motd
advertizement idea I brought up a while ago. The most common objection you'll
see on this (not one I necessarily advocate) is that it violates the spirit
of Grex being founded on principles that it should be free from stuff like
that and self-sufficient. The objection you'll hear from me is that I *HATE*
those annoying "thank you" messages on NPR.
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aruba
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response 83 of 90:
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Nov 13 04:57 UTC 1999 |
Grex's operating expenses from 9/98 through 8/99 averaged $545.77 per month,
or $17.94 per day.
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devnull
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response 84 of 90:
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Nov 13 23:55 UTC 1999 |
I wonder if there's some way of doing non-commercial sponsorships that would
be non-annoying...
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swa
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response 85 of 90:
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Nov 14 02:00 UTC 1999 |
A thought on why there are so many long-term users who don't become
members: I agree with what flem said back in response forty-something -- I
think a lot of long-term users are interested in supporting Grex but never
get around to it because there isn't a sense of urgency. Myself, I have
been a user off and on since 1994 but a member for only the past two
or three months... because it was only two or three months ago that I
happened to think of Grex and have my checkbook handy at the same time.
Some way of gently reminding long-term users how grateful Grex would be
for memberships could see an increase among this group.
At the same time -- many long-term Grex users are full-time students or
others who may not have the money to contribute right now. Nagging them
won't work. Sending an e-mail asking users to become members on their
six-month, nine-month, or whatever anniversary as a Grexer is something
that should not be done in an incredibly obnoxious way -- we should not
make people feel obligated.
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aruba
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response 86 of 90:
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Nov 14 02:21 UTC 1999 |
I certainly agree with that.
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danr
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response 87 of 90:
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Nov 15 00:34 UTC 1999 |
But the point is to ask. We don't ask so therefore we don't get. If it were
more urgent, or if we had a project that needed additional funding, I think we
would be more actively asking.
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keesan
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response 88 of 90:
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Nov 19 21:12 UTC 1999 |
So $6 pays for grex operating expenses for 8 hours? Would this be too much
to ask as a one-time donation from even student users, in exchange for wishing
their puppy a happy first birthday or the like in the motd? It might be more
appealing than a month's membership for people not interested in voting. And
would not generate reminders to renew their membership.
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cmcgee
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response 89 of 90:
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Nov 19 23:21 UTC 1999 |
Don't Bloat the MOTd.
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swa
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response 90 of 90:
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Dec 14 23:39 UTC 1999 |
But encouraging one-time donations as well as memberships might also be a good
tactic...
Are plans underway to issue such a reminder? Or is this merely a theoretical
idea?
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