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tod
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response 75 of 87:
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Jul 21 18:18 UTC 2003 |
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jmsaul
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response 76 of 87:
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Jul 21 21:46 UTC 2003 |
Re #67: Blame it on the legislature. And the INS staff themselves. I saw
a publication from the Detroit INS office (a photocopied thing they
hand out to people) that told applicants to do something that's
actually illegal. I think it was making photocopies of their green
card or something like that.
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tod
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response 77 of 87:
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Jul 21 21:56 UTC 2003 |
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bru
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response 78 of 87:
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Jul 21 23:32 UTC 2003 |
How many do I need to speak? There are probably over 50 different languages
that cross the border ibn detroit every day, and while we have a number of
inspectors who speak Russian, German, Spanish and a little french, where do
we find the interpreters for the others so they don't make mistakes when told
they have 90 days to return their I-94 or be permenantly banned for 10 yerars
if they fail?
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jmsaul
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response 79 of 87:
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Jul 22 01:14 UTC 2003 |
You hire them to write up leaflets with some FAQs.
Duh.
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mary
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response 80 of 87:
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Jul 22 01:45 UTC 2003 |
Whenever Bruce starts talking about his job
I get this sick feeling that there is too much
authorized power for the amount of intelligence
on board.
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scg
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response 81 of 87:
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Jul 22 03:10 UTC 2003 |
I'm not sure why it requires a lot of funds to deport remove somebody who is
in the process of removing himself from the US, from the US. Presumably if
they just let the guy cross the border out of the US, he would have done so.
As far as Bruce's language attitude, I can say that I've crossed a lot of
borders into a lot of countries, many of which had national languages I didn't
speak, and I've never encountered an immigration of customs agent who didn't
cheerfully attempt to communicate with me in English.
The only place I've ever seen anything like the level of security that exists
coming into the US from Mexico was in East Berlin in 1986. What I saw in
East Berlin convinced me that communist governments were firmly evil.
Having never been detained for 10 days anywhere, I would certainly be very
angry, and feel quite violated, if such a thing were to happen. How many of
the people here who think being detained for "only" ten days is an appropriate
administrative measure would be willing to quietly let that happen to
themselves?
I did once ride my bike up to the French-Spanish border and got waved through
into Spain before realizing that my passport was still in France. I wonder
what Bruce thinks should have happened to me. As it happened, I biked back
up to the border an hour or two later assuming they were unlikely to stop a
kid on a bike, and to my surprise found the border post completely deserted,
so my lack of documentation was a complete non-issue.
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bru
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response 82 of 87:
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Jul 22 03:34 UTC 2003 |
That used to be the case on the northern border. WE had post equipped with
remote cameras to let people in, posts that closed down at 6 oclock and told
you to come back when they were open, posts that told you to report back in
the morning when an inspector was on duty to manifest your cargo.
Thse days are gone.
I doubt very much any similarity between the Southern border and the berlin
wall. I have talked to people who crossed that border and have heard horror
stories that dwarf anything UI have ever heard about customs.
Detention is an extreme case. Most people are just refused entry and sent
back to the country they came from. An administrative hearing is usually done
in a few hours at most, but if you want to fight expulsion, we have to lock
you up so you don't disappear.
And keep in mind these cases are very rare, which is why they make news.
And while I might agree that I think the decision was right, keep in mind I
am NOT an immigration officer adn do not normally send people back.
Immigrration does that.
I look at cargo. I protect the economy. I look for drugs, and bombs. If
I think someone does not belong here, I turn them over to Immigration to make
the final decision.
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scg
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response 83 of 87:
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Jul 22 04:11 UTC 2003 |
Most of the complaints I hear are about INS, not customs. But I don't think
the cases are rare. Find me an immigrant without an INS horror story.
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tod
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response 84 of 87:
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Jul 22 19:24 UTC 2003 |
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jmsaul
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response 85 of 87:
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Jul 23 03:02 UTC 2003 |
Detention is rare in the sense that only a very small percentage of people
trying to enter the US get detained, but most detention cases don't make news.
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twenex
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response 86 of 87:
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Jul 23 15:27 UTC 2003 |
Re #33: The Irish aren't known for wanting to overturn the American way of
life, unlike revolutionary/Soviet-style Communists. Euro-communists (who
believe in evolution and communism thru democracy [not capitalism, though,
obviously] would be different.
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tod
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response 87 of 87:
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Jul 23 17:15 UTC 2003 |
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