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gull
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response 75 of 92:
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Sep 12 13:51 UTC 2003 |
To be fair, if we're talking only about the U.S. population that
statement is probably true. Buddhists are probably a pretty small minority.
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gull
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response 76 of 92:
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Sep 12 13:53 UTC 2003 |
Re #68: I think there's a difference. No one is calling for infanticide
or any of the other things that anti-abortion activists claim are at the
bottom of that slippery slope. There absolutely *are* lots of people
calling for a government based exclusively on religious principles.
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polygon
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response 77 of 92:
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Sep 12 15:15 UTC 2003 |
Re 76. I support abortion rights. I think it's critical that women have
control over their own bodies. I also have trouble with the concept of
a fertilized egg or a blastocyst being endowed with rights that
override the needs and wants of fully born people.
The trouble is that imposing death is an easy, quick, cheap, effective,
and popular way to solve almost any human problem. It is such an
appealing notion that this impulse must always be resisted, because a
society which readily resorts to lethal means of solving problems becomes
a monstrous place.
When we debated legalized abortion back in the early 1970s, opponents
predicted that by legitimizing the death option, it would lead to
euthanasia. We abortion rights supporters all denied this at the time,
but sure enough, Dr. Kevorkian came along; he and his supporters made no
secret that euthanasia was their goal.
It's important to draw a clear line between abortion and other highly
appealing uses of the death option, such as euthanasia and capital
punishment -- and hold that line.
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klg
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response 78 of 92:
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Sep 12 16:21 UTC 2003 |
re: "#76 (gull): Re #68: I think there's a difference. No one is
calling for infanticide or any of the other things that anti-abortion
activists claim are at the bottom of that slippery slope."
We beg to differ, Mr. gull. For example, does not Peter Singer (a
leading "ethicist" at Yale (?)) contend that newborns ought not to have
the same civil protections as older persons, thus providing for
the "post birth abortion" of the imperfect and inconvenient?
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rcurl
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response 79 of 92:
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Sep 12 17:12 UTC 2003 |
Re #77: Dr. Kervorkian was not supporting or practicing euthanasia. He was
a proponent of "end of life choices": that is, allowing and providing
means for people that conclude their lives are no longer worthwhile to end
their own lives. This is legal in Oregon, and the theme of a national
organization named "Choices". "End of life choices" and abortion are very
similar, in that they involve the rights of people to "have control over
their own bodies".
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gull
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response 80 of 92:
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Sep 12 18:35 UTC 2003 |
Re #78: I'm not aware of Peter Singer; I doubt he's getting the same
level of media attention as people like Pat Robertson or Bob Dornan, who
would like to see a government where non-Christians need not apply.
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klg
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response 81 of 92:
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Sep 12 19:39 UTC 2003 |
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gull
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response 82 of 92:
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Sep 12 19:43 UTC 2003 |
Yes, you can cut-and-paste from Google. None of those are exactly mass
media sources, though.
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klg
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response 83 of 92:
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Sep 12 20:02 UTC 2003 |
Tell that one to the New York Times, please. I do not believe they
would agree.
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mary
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response 84 of 92:
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Sep 13 02:59 UTC 2003 |
I have Singer's _Practical Ethics_. He's a fascinating
philosopher who uses controversial arguments to get people
thinking about their own beliefs and choices.
He's a tenured Philosopy professor at Princeton. He's
not an easy read.
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mary
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response 85 of 92:
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Sep 13 03:00 UTC 2003 |
Er, Philosophy.
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dah
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response 86 of 92:
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Sep 13 04:13 UTC 2003 |
What should I study at university, Mary Remmers?
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happyboy
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response 87 of 92:
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Sep 13 23:59 UTC 2003 |
the history of farts in canada.
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polygon
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response 88 of 92:
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Sep 14 05:07 UTC 2003 |
Re 79. Dr. Kevorkian was careful to deny that he was advocating
euthanasia. He dressed it up as just another form of personal autonomy,
and publicized a bunch of highly atypical and extreme cases. The theory
is that we should "loosen the rules", with certain "careful safeguards" so
that people have the "right to die".
But, back when the assisted-suicide Proposal B was on the ballot, I heard
some revealing and appalling conversations among some of his key
supporters. There was deep contempt for the "safeguards" which
theoretically would hem in the practice if Proposal B were adopted. They
were confident that once the door was opened, the practice would become
accepted, and the constraints cast aside. I think they are exactly right
about this.
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rcurl
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response 89 of 92:
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Sep 14 06:13 UTC 2003 |
The constraints can be cast into law and practice. There have, so far, been
no accusations against the Oregon "end of life" choice program, except of
course from assorted demagogues (like Ashcroft).
I don't myself know what you heard from whom, but such hearsay can be
generated for any liberalization. There was something similar probably for
emancipation.
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klg
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response 90 of 92:
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Sep 15 01:55 UTC 2003 |
Question: How does Mr. rcurl "win" arguments with those opposed to
physician euthenasia?
a. Through carefully constructed, logical reasoning.
b. By labelling all the opponents "demagogues."
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rcurl
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response 91 of 92:
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Sep 15 05:22 UTC 2003 |
You are sadly blind if you do not recognize Ashcroft as a real,
honest-to-goodness, no ifs'ands'or'buts, demagogue. He is probably one of
the most dangerous men in American today for our democratic form of
society.
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klg
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response 92 of 92:
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Sep 15 16:09 UTC 2003 |
response #90 (revised)
Question: How does Mr. rcurl "win" arguments with those opposed to
physician euthenasia?
a. Through carefully constructed, logical reasoning.
b. By labelling all the opponents "demagogues."
c. By fancy footwork, such as changing the subject and implying he
said one thing, when, in fact, he said quite another.
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