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kenb
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response 70 of 147:
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Apr 27 03:14 UTC 1995 |
Good point, John, in fact I run 1.0 even though I've D/L'd 1.1a beta.
By the way, Netscape has released the commercial version 1.1 very recently.
Tonight I've logged in with SLIPKNOT, a graphics www browser that doesn't
require SLIP/PPP. It's supposed to add the graphics functionality when used
with lynx. Has anybody tried it here on Grex?
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scg
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response 71 of 147:
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Apr 27 04:24 UTC 1995 |
Actually, Netscape isn't as free as some other software is for educational
users. It doesn't cost anything, but you still aren't allowed tocopy it
and give it to other educational users. Every copy has to be ftp'd from
one of the Netscape ftp sites or a licensed mirror.
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rcurl
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response 72 of 147:
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Apr 27 06:49 UTC 1995 |
And, why isn't that as "free" as other software? If you can run Netscape,
you can ftp.
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peacefrg
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response 73 of 147:
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Apr 27 09:11 UTC 1995 |
AIR Mosaic is the packaged software that comes with Internet In A Box.
It is equal to, if not better than Netscape. It does bring up browsable
text before inline images, and it has a great hotlist utility.
I found it to be much faster than Netscape actually.
Another WWW browser that can be Anon FTPd is Cello. I would not recommend
it though. I gave it a shot and found it to be EXTREMELY slow,
and a big memory hog. Definitely stick to Mosaic or Netscape.
But, before you make up your mind try them both out. Each of them
have different positive and negative characteristics to them.
But, I was wondering...Why will some Web pages only work on Netscape
and some only work on Mosaic? What is the logic behind this?
And, is there a way to bypass it, or fool it into working on
either or?
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scg
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response 74 of 147:
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Apr 28 00:13 UTC 1995 |
Not all web browsers support all standard features of html, and then
Netscape has added some of its own tags. I much prefer Netscape's
enhanced html over the more basic html that Mosaic supports, and often
write things that will look best with Netscape. However, anything
essential in a well written html page should be usable in any browser,
including lynx (which is entirely text based). This doesn't require the
compromise it sounds like it might. Most graphics in html pages are just
there for decoration, and you don't miss any information by not seeing
them. When a graphic is essential, a chunk of text that does the same
thing can be added with the alt= tag, such that it will be shown to those
who don't support graphics instead of the graphic. For example, here's a
line from The Communicator homepage, which I did for our school newspaper:
<center><img src="banner.gif" alt="The Communicator"></center>
That line prints The Communicator's banner (banner.gif) when using a
browser that supports images, and the text, "The Communicator," when using
a text only browser.
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peacefrg
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response 75 of 147:
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Apr 29 06:06 UTC 1995 |
I have seen full graphical sites with no tags for text based.
For instance, web searcher cannot e used in Lynx.
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scg
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response 76 of 147:
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May 1 03:26 UTC 1995 |
If it won't work in lynx, or any other standard browser for that matter,
it's badly written html.
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remmers
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response 77 of 147:
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May 1 13:12 UTC 1995 |
(Unless you take the elitist view that text is passe' and graphics are
where it's at.)
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rcurl
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response 78 of 147:
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May 1 20:19 UTC 1995 |
(Which is a difficult view to take in graphics.)
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beebo
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response 79 of 147:
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May 3 07:34 UTC 1995 |
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peacefrg
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response 80 of 147:
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May 3 15:59 UTC 1995 |
Try Websearcher on lynx.
http://webcrawler.cs.washington.edu/webcrawler/webquery.html
It didn't work on lynx
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rcurl
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response 81 of 147:
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May 3 17:25 UTC 1995 |
Please clarify the syntax of this discussion. What doesn't work on
which, and why?
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peacefrg
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response 82 of 147:
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May 3 18:08 UTC 1995 |
I was saying that some homepages and web sites arn't accessable
through lynx. And The above URL is one of them. I was wondering why.
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rcurl
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response 83 of 147:
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May 3 19:55 UTC 1995 |
I presume you tried at several times, in case the host was busy. I
have gotten refusals at some sites during the day, and no problem in
the wee hours.
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robh
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response 84 of 147:
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May 4 00:43 UTC 1995 |
This response has been erased.
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remmers
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response 85 of 147:
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May 4 10:26 UTC 1995 |
Hmm, I tried that site with lynx and got the message "redirection limit
of 10 URL's reached". That does suggest that something was max'ed out.
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marcvh
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response 86 of 147:
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Jun 11 11:49 UTC 1995 |
It sounds like a redirection loop.
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sar123
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response 87 of 147:
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Sep 16 11:22 UTC 1995 |
I am running a MS-wINDOWS 3.1 and I have a work station which is connected
to my local area network (Netware) i have connection to internet through
64kbbs line from our organisation. But i could not connect to any of the
browsers??>
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olek
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response 88 of 147:
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Sep 16 19:08 UTC 1995 |
Does anyone know where I could find an Internet voice communications
package for Unix (Linux)? Something like the Windows program Iphone.
Thanks!
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srw
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response 89 of 147:
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Sep 19 07:41 UTC 1995 |
Re 87. If your lan has an internet connection, you need an IP protocol
stack for Windows which will also support the Netware IPX traffic.
Novell has an IP-capable protocol stack - I think it's called VLM.
You need an IP address for your workstation too.
If you already have all that, then you should know that you don't
*connect* to a browser, but rather you run the browser on your workstation.
If you don't have it, you have to download it from the net first.
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mcpoz
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response 90 of 147:
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Dec 29 23:07 UTC 1995 |
Question: What do the numbers in an internet address stand for? Do they
indicate anything like country, region, etc? (ie: 152.160.30.1)
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davel
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response 91 of 147:
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Dec 31 19:29 UTC 1995 |
Nothing that simple.
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srw
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response 92 of 147:
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Jan 3 03:04 UTC 1996 |
They correspond to thefour bytes that make up an IP address.
Each can be between 0 and 255, inclusive, although no host may end with a 0
or 255 value as those are reserved.
If you want to find out more about a particular IP address, you have to ask
a DNS program. There is a place you can telnet to at U of M that does lookups
from text requests. Try telnet runningman.rs.itd.umich.edu 5432
(The 5432 is the port number).
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remmers
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response 93 of 147:
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Jan 3 11:25 UTC 1996 |
Or you can run "nslookup" on Grex. (Would that work for non-members?)
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scott
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response 94 of 147:
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Jan 6 00:39 UTC 1996 |
There is a distinction on the first number, as to what class of address it
is. Certain ranges mean (I vaguely remember) a class A address, which means
that whoever has it can assign all their own 2, 3, 4th numbers. A class B
means that the 2nd number is also part of the basic address, and so on. If
you have a class A, you can assign a massive number of subnetworks on your
domain name. Lower classes have less available bits for your own use in
assigning subnets. I have a lecture book somewhere on the finer points.
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