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tod
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response 68 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:01 UTC 2006 |
re #67
If they included that tidbit in the legislation then it would be less
offensive.
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happyboy
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response 69 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:09 UTC 2006 |
try not to imagine anne dressed as a priest while
pegging the u.s. constitution with a 600 volt
buttbuster vibe-er-ater
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tod
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response 70 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:13 UTC 2006 |
<tries real hard>
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mcnally
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response 71 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:13 UTC 2006 |
re #66: At the time the authors of the Federalist Papers would also
have been charged with a crime (which is no doubt why they were published
pseudonymously.)
I point this out because it's worth underscoring Rane's excellent point.
I don't like to use the word "un-American" because I think it's been robbed
of much of its meaning and tainted by those who sling it at anyone who
disagrees with them, but in a genunine and historical sense I believe this
law is not just a bad idea but fundamentally un-American.
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tod
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response 72 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:16 UTC 2006 |
Its as ugly as the library record lack of privacy. Monitoring everyone's
knowledge and opinions should be scaring the hell out of people but apathy
is getting the best of this country.
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happyboy
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response 73 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:25 UTC 2006 |
but the SHOPPING MALL is great!
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twenex
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response 74 of 253:
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Jan 10 18:30 UTC 2006 |
People won't wake up until the consequences are dire. They never do.
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gull
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response 75 of 253:
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Jan 10 20:12 UTC 2006 |
Privacy and anonymity are hard sells because most people feel that they
don't have anything to hide. The unwritten assumption is that if you
*do* feel like you have something to hide, you must be doing something
wrong.
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slynne
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response 76 of 253:
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Jan 10 21:53 UTC 2006 |
Yeah, that is why you will never see the general population happy about
cameras in a public bathroom. Because there are still things people
would rather do in private.
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rcurl
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response 77 of 253:
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Jan 11 05:29 UTC 2006 |
To think that Samuel Clemens too would be accused of a crime today.... He
would have something to say about that!
The Wikipedia says "In the late eighteenth to early nineteenth centuries, it
was established practice for political articles to be signed with pseudonyms",
but it does not give an explanation for this.
It isn't apathy especially, when many of these recent attacks upon civil
rights are done secretly, or at least hidden from view by attaching them as
late amendments to "must pass" legislation (like budget bills, as in this
case).
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jep
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response 78 of 253:
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Jan 14 01:13 UTC 2006 |
Governor Jennifer M. Granholm today ordered that United States flags
throughout the state of Michigan and on Michigan waters be lowered for
one day on Tuesday, January 17, 2006, in honor of Marine Lance Corporal
Jason T. Little, of Climax, who died January 7 while on active duty in
Iraq. Flags should return to full-staff Wednesday, January 18.
Lance Cpl. Little, 20, was killed when his tank was attacked with an
improvised explosive device while conducting combat operations near
Ferris, Iraq. He was assigned to the 2nd Tank Battalion, 2nd Marine
Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force, Camp Lejeune, North Carolina.
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janc
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response 79 of 253:
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Jan 14 18:21 UTC 2006 |
There doesn't seem to be a walk item.
Actually, there didn't seem to be a walk today either. I wandered
around in the cold from 10:30 to 10:50 and then gave it up and went
home.
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denisea
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response 80 of 253:
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Jan 14 20:20 UTC 2006 |
Hey Jan, wish I could've walked with ya!
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aruba
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response 81 of 253:
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Jan 14 20:23 UTC 2006 |
Well, we were sleeping off the effects of the Trivia contest, which ended at
8 AM. Sorry we didn't make it.
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trap
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response 82 of 253:
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Jan 22 16:16 UTC 2006 |
vote to impeach scoundrel bush:
http://www.votetoimpeach.org
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albaugh
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response 83 of 253:
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Jan 26 18:49 UTC 2006 |
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:42:03 -0500
From: CNN Breaking News <BreakingNews@MAIL.CNN.COM>
-- Islamic militant group Hamas wins landslide victory
in Palestinian parliament ary election, officials say.
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tod
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response 84 of 253:
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Jan 26 20:42 UTC 2006 |
Is that the Palestinian idea of "lesser of 2 evils"?
If so, I wish them the best of luck with their new leadership.
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nharmon
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response 85 of 253:
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Jan 26 21:22 UTC 2006 |
Yeah, lots of luck.
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happyboy
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response 86 of 253:
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Jan 26 22:28 UTC 2006 |
democracy is on the march!
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drew
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response 87 of 253:
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Jan 27 05:24 UTC 2006 |
I like Hamas on pita-bread.
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gull
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response 88 of 253:
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Jan 30 04:55 UTC 2006 |
Re resp:84: I think they were simply fed up with the corruption in
their current government.
This is a bit of a learning experience for Bush -- that when you give
people a democracy, they may not always vote the way we want them to.
He seemed really flustered in his press conference.
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tod
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response 89 of 253:
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Jan 30 05:32 UTC 2006 |
Everybody knows that Iraq was a fundie islamic country which was repressed
from making political influence under Saddam's dictatorship. The results of
this election are what the Saudi people have wanted and what al Qaeda wants.
Usama's offer of a truce stems directly from that fact.
The Saudi people are running this show. Don't forget it. Saudi Arabia
attacked us on 9/11...not terrorists nor some 6'7 boogeyman with failing
kidneys. If it weren't for the Bush ties to the Saudis, our troops would be
marching through Riyadh instead of Baghdad. Hell, Baghdad had a synagogue
and xtian churches under Saddam and he posed no threat to the USA. It was
all about what the Saudis want.
Saudi Arabia attacked the USA
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mcnally
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response 90 of 253:
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Jan 30 08:14 UTC 2006 |
re #89:
> Everybody knows that Iraq was a fundie islamic country which was
> repressed from making political influence under Saddam's dictatorship.
I don't know that. In fact I really don't believe that to be the case,
assuming I'm parsing your rather odd sentence correctly.. Claiming that
Iraq was dominated by fundamentalists who were kept in check only by Saddam
pretty directly conflicts with things we know about pre-Kuwait-invasion
Iraq, such as the very high (for the region) rates of education and
professional opportunities for women.
Things have changed substantially since Iraq invaded, and was subsequently
driven out of, Kuwait, however. For one, Saddam Hussein adopted a more
pro-Islam stance in an effort to shore up support internally and regain
support in the region. But far more importantly, the removal of Saddam
created a power vacuum that many groups rushed to fill. Sunni and Shiite
Islamists, aided respectively by different parties outside Iraq, were two
of the leading blocs to gain influence in the power grab after Saddam's
removal.
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tod
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response 91 of 253:
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Jan 30 18:15 UTC 2006 |
re #90
assuming I'm parsing your rather odd sentence correctly.. Claiming that
Iraq was dominated by fundamentalists who were kept in check only by Saddam
pretty directly conflicts with things we know about pre-Kuwait-invasion
Iraq, such as the very high (for the region) rates of education and
professional opportunities for women.
I didn't insinuate there was any dominance beyond the dictatorship. The
"preference" of citizens is that of Fundies, though. The jails were full of
the religiously outspoken. Iraq was run by infidels under Hussein and the
only saving grace for him was to give low rent to Palestinians.
And yes, I agree the vacuum was filled by extremism but I disagree that it
was solely aided by outside entities. If you believe the "insurgents" are
all foreigners then the math just doesn't add up on whole entire cities
favoring them. I think the reality is that Saudi is about to implode under
the Fundies and has been a losing ally ever since Bill Casey died. The Bush
regime is losing their grip and misinterpreted Iraq as an easy aquisition
alternative. Right there greasing the wheels of that power framework is the
Bush regime..just like they did for decades with House of Saud. Both places
being places you can expect a few hundred beheadings annually. It has nothing
to do with "Freedom on the March" and everything to do with big contracts.
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nharmon
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response 92 of 253:
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Jan 30 18:23 UTC 2006 |
Obviously Tod knows a heck of a lot more about Iraq than I do, but here
is something I don't understand. If the insurgents want a fundie
government in Iraq, and that is what the USA is giving them, why are
they attacking us?
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