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Grex > Coop11 > #175: PicoSpan Documentation Fix - Scribble-family Commands | |
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jmsaul
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response 65 of 79:
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Jun 9 02:02 UTC 2000 |
(Even Joe isn't pushing for the ability to edit responses. He thinks being
able to put them in a non-publicly-readable file is enough, though he'd prefer
it if they were nuked for good with only the date and nuker listed.)
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cmcgee
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response 66 of 79:
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Jun 9 11:27 UTC 2000 |
Summary: I'd like to be able to delete a response, have that response
replaced by a notice that it had been deleted by me on such-and-such a date,
and have the deleted response stored in a file that was readable only by
staff.
I don't want the ability to edit a response.
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pfv
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response 67 of 79:
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Jun 9 15:52 UTC 2000 |
Yeah, I like the idea of the nuke ala'
<post nuked by user:0123456 @ 20000609.1156>
I WOULD say that, at least as a future "feature", perhaps for
backtalk, the idea of a "retractive-edit" is sorta' interesting.
OTOH, it would almost *have* to be akin to uselessnet-quotes or
email-quoting.. Not sure that this is ANYTHING Grex would ever
care to see. Such a thing could prolly be emulated with another
"header" such as:
<post revised (see #N) by user:0123456 @ 20000609.1156>
Stick to a nuke-alert and the log deperm for now..
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janc
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response 68 of 79:
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Jun 10 04:08 UTC 2000 |
The way the Picospan file formats currently work, it isn't always
possible to report who scribble a response or at what time it was
scribbled. Neither Backtalk nor Picospan attempt to do so, though if we
worked at it, we could probably report the date/login most of the time.
The login is mostly not that interesting anyway, since on Grex you can
safely assume that any scribbled response was scribbled by the author.
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remmers
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response 69 of 79:
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Jun 10 12:35 UTC 2000 |
Cfadm also has scribble powers.
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pfv
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response 70 of 79:
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Jun 10 14:49 UTC 2000 |
Cfadm.. and I thought FW did as well?
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davel
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response 71 of 79:
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Jun 10 18:33 UTC 2000 |
No.
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pfv
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response 72 of 79:
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Jun 10 19:12 UTC 2000 |
Good.. shows SOME sense, anyway.
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janc
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response 73 of 79:
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Jun 11 01:01 UTC 2000 |
Cfadm has techniclaly has scribble powers (in fact, technically they can
edit other people's responses too), but my understanding was that cfadm
never scribbles. I've never been cfadm, so I'm not sure I know the
policy here.
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i
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response 74 of 79:
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Jun 11 01:23 UTC 2000 |
I'm unaware of any policy on cfadm-level scribbling. Outside of a few
freakish-but-generally-dull hypothetical situations, i can't see why
cfadm would scribble anything anyway.
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remmers
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response 75 of 79:
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Jun 11 13:25 UTC 2000 |
Right, cfadm-scribbling is probably never necessary. In the case
of a clearly illegal posting (e.g. credit card numbers) or a twit
attack (e.g. somebody entering the same junk response in every
item in a conference, via an automated script) other and usually
better methods are available.
(I don't recall any credit-card-posting incident in the history
of Grex. In the one instance of item-spamming-by-script that I'm
aware of, cfadm (me at the time) edited the junk response out of all
but one item in the conference. Scribbling would have been a poor
way to handle that one.)
These are very rare situations. Jan's basic point that on Grex a
scribbling can generally be assumed to have been done by the poster
is correct, I think. If cfadm ever encounters a situation where
they see a need to scribble, I'll trust cfadm to post an explanation.
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davel
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response 76 of 79:
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Jun 12 14:29 UTC 2000 |
(I recall at least one occurrence of credit-card-# scribbling by cfadm.
At that time cfadm did post notice of it, in the next available response in
that item. The scribble command was not used, I think.)
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mwg
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response 77 of 79:
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Jun 12 16:15 UTC 2000 |
I think that Mary had it right (If I understand her correctly) when she
said that we should just make it policy that no posted text can be
permanently deleted from the system except for legal reasons. You agree
to this by using the system, and if it bothers you, don't enter anything.
This is the basis I assume on any system, regardless of what policy on
the system may say, I assume that I can't get rid of it once entered.
Hot coffee.
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pfv
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response 78 of 79:
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Jun 12 16:26 UTC 2000 |
Good Deal.. Fine.. Post it load and plain on the webpages, and in
newuser, and in the motd, and at the start of every conf.
Kiss any further bbs-use/growth goodbye.
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jmsaul
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response 79 of 79:
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Jun 12 16:47 UTC 2000 |
That won't apply to material that's already here in any event.
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