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krj
response 62 of 124: Mark Unseen   Apr 29 18:22 UTC 2002

Note for Twila: there is a new Baba Yaga CD!  I'd been trying 
to figure out how I was going to get a copy of this, and today I 
learned that Cliff has it at cdroots.com.  There is a bio of the 
band at http://www.cdroots.com/fono-baba.html which tells more than 
we ever knew about them before; it's been over a decade, I think, 
since their previous album.   Irish and Hungarian rock instrumentalists
and a small choir of Russian folk singers.
anderyn
response 63 of 124: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 13:40 UTC 2002

Can you get two?! I want one.
micklpkl
response 64 of 124: Mark Unseen   May 20 21:26 UTC 2002

Ken, in re: resp:61 and Patty Griffin ...

You might enjoy reading the (over-the-top?) article in this week's 
Austin Chronicle. Patty is the cover girl for this issue.

http://www.auschron.com/issues/dispatch/2002-05-17/music_feature.html

krj
response 65 of 124: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 02:20 UTC 2002

Random greed whine/not to self:  While shopping for Dad's birthday
present at Barnes & Noble, I found the new album from Cape Breton
fiddler Natalie MacMaster.  It's a 2-CD live set and from the snippets
one can hear on the "RedDotNet" preview system, it sounds VERY good.
krj
response 66 of 124: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 00:11 UTC 2002

Apparently Peter Gabriel has completed the album UP, just ten years
after his last studio album.  (Where I come from, we call that 
"retirement."  :)  )  rollingstone.com has a review of it
(they didn't like it much) and amazon.com is taking orders for 
late September shipment.
orinoco
response 67 of 124: Mark Unseen   Sep 2 02:21 UTC 2002

I seem to have a particular knack for discovering musicians just as they pass
their prime.  Still, Peter Gabriel's been in pretty heavy rotation lately,
and I may have to buy this one.  
krj
response 68 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 03:43 UTC 2002

Sorry I haven't been holding up my end of the conference lately.
I haven't been in much of a mood to write, except for Grex's party
chat.
 
I had an old-fashioned CD pigout at the used CD shop Encore today. 
I went to get a few inexpensive opera discs for a friend's child 
who is expressing interest, and I found a big pile of stuff 
which I might end up keeping instead of giving away.  

The chosen opera was AIDA sung by Tebaldi and Bergonzi
with vonKarajan conducting, and we might end up keeping that; also 
there was an anthology from a BBC show called "Listen to the Band"
which is all brass music, which Leslie thinks looks interesting.
There's been a series of anthologies from this show, according to 
amazon.co.uk, and much of them are out of print.  :/

Well, I still have some cheapie opera anthologies I can send along 
for the youngster.
 
Background shopping music was first, an instrumental Sandy Nelson LP.
Kind of kitschy fun; Allmusic.com cites Nelson's drumming 
as a significant influence on surf music and Keith Moon.  
I don't remember the title, it probably doesn't matter, though
there were some nice 60s covers on that specific album -- 
"Time Won't Let Me" (originally by The Outsiders) was the one I remember.

Second background album was a Stiff Little Fingers
anthology.  I have only the faintest recollection that such a band
ever existed, but sadly I have reached the point where I'm now 
nostalgic for the 1980 punk sound.  S.L.F. sounds a lot like 
second-rate Clash, so I bought the anthology out of the store's player.
dbratman
response 69 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 22:26 UTC 2002

Nostalgic for the 1980 punk sound?  Yikes.

I remember circa 1989 conversing with Brad Westervelt about the 
advancing crest of nostalgia, and predicting "In the Nineties, there 
will be disco nostalgia."  Seemed hard to believe at the time, but lo, 
so it came to pass.

So I shouldn't be surprised at punk nostalgia either, but ... punk 
seems to be the opposite of what one can be nostalgic for.
cyklone
response 70 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 00:28 UTC 2002

You'd be surprised. At my band's gigs people go nuts for the Dead Kennedys
and Ramones tunes. 

other
response 71 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 03:10 UTC 2002

What do you call the band?
cyklone
response 72 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 03:24 UTC 2002

BLAMMO
jaklumen
response 73 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 05:32 UTC 2002

resp:69  I'm still waiting for 80's nostalgia to catch on.

True, disco nostalgia came along-- and it's bled over into the 00's.  I 
think, really, that boy and girl band excess is part of that 70's 
nostalgia, although it has been an oft-repeated formula since the 50's.

Hmmm.. punk nostalgia.  Yes, that seems to be a contradiction in terms.
Perhaps it might be useful to ask what punk is all about.  As far as 
the Sex Pistols contribution, I remember Johnny Rotten being quoted as 
saying "America won't get what it's about," or something to that 
effect.  And I think that was pretty accurate; if I understand it 
right, the rage was over the crushing poverty in northern England 
(Manchester, for example) as the industrialist economic structure 
basically collapsed, and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was basically 
indifferent.
cyklone
response 74 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 13:46 UTC 2002

I think you read Rotten too broadly. The Sex Pistols themselves, as well
as the Clash, admit to being influenced heavily by the Ramones, who toured
England early. The Sex Pistols were also influenced by the Stooges.
Neither the Ramones or Stooges were very political, yet they form the
basis for a large part of the punk sound. I believe Rotten was refering to
America understanding what the *Sex Pistols* were all about, not punk in
general. In any case, The Dead Kennedys were extrememly political,
reacting to Thatcher's US alter-ego, Reagan. 

"Punk nostalgia" has more than one facet. Based on my experience playing
the songs live, people respond to "Too Drunk to Fuck" and "Sheena is a
Punk Rocker" primarily for nostalgic reasons. We also get a great response
to songs like "Holiday Inn Cambodia" and Fear's "Let's Have a War" and I
think at least one of the reasons is because those songs still have
resonance in our current political climate. 

mcnally
response 75 of 124: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 15:49 UTC 2002

  Heh..  "Holiday Inn Cambodia" is one of the more suggestive typos I've
  seen lately.  Conjures up a vivid image, anyway..

  I can certainly understand punk nostalgia.  I didn't become familiar
  with the music of the Clash, the Buzzcocks, the DKs, and other prominent
  bands of that era until years after their heyday but hearing the music
  of most of those acts brings back memories of my early college years and
  time spent in the company of friends who also enjoyed that music.
  For whatever reason, though, the nostalgia effect is greatly lessened
  in the case of the Clash.  Perhaps it's just that I've listened to their
  stuff continuously enough (especially "London Calling") over the years
  to not identify it with a particular time period or perhaps it's due
  to some virtue of the music, but it doesn't induce specific time-and-place
  flashbacks the way the music of Black Flag or Fear does.

happyboy
response 76 of 124: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 08:32 UTC 2003

punk nostalgia is a contradiction in terms.

i'm not nostaligic for punk because i don't feel that
i ever STOPPED having the attitude.  but then unplugging
and playing banjo instead was even more punk than
wearing my mohawk

nobody i can think of is more punk than dock boggs.

well...except maybe cyklone or something.
cyklone
response 77 of 124: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 13:13 UTC 2003

Hahaha!
happyboy
response 78 of 124: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 18:42 UTC 2003

/spills beer on your green chucks and sez a prayer for joe strummer
cyklone
response 79 of 124: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 21:33 UTC 2003

RIP
happyboy
response 80 of 124: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 08:48 UTC 2003

*berps*
krj
response 81 of 124: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 21:30 UTC 2003

I've more or less stopped buying CDs.  This feels odd.
 
So far this year I've just bought one used CD and one cutout CD,
neither of which I've bothered to listen to.     Usually in January
I have a giant pigout catching up on all the stuff I deferred in 
November and December while I was allocating money for Christmas 
presents.
 
More CD retail bankruptcies expected as a result.  :/
mcnally
response 82 of 124: Mark Unseen   Feb 8 21:46 UTC 2003

  Dang..  That really *is* dire news for the music industry.
tpryan
response 83 of 124: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 18:20 UTC 2003

        After 16 months of being around the house a lot, I have 
listened to some CDs several times, but still have a lot that
have only been heard once, some that I realized I have yet to 
get to.
otaking
response 84 of 124: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 23:11 UTC 2003

I have CDs that I've owned for almost a year that I haven't heard even once.
I've been trying to fix that lately.
dbratman
response 85 of 124: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 12:17 UTC 2003

Are you guys pseudonyms for Ken Josenhans, or is this just epidemic? <g>
mcnally
response 86 of 124: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 13:41 UTC 2003

  It's not that we're pseudonyms of Ken.  It's more that we're all 
  different manifestations of the same ur-Music-Fan.
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